Q+A: Mobility, Gym Routines + Cardio vs. Lifting

Q+A TIMESTAMPS ~ 2:30 - Q1: “Do you think there are direct benefits to bodybuilders in yoga and Pilates type practices?” 6:50 - Mobility training resources 8:19 - Going down the rabbit hole of end range loading, loaded stretching and other mobility training techniques 19:51 - Food for thought on loading joints across all of their “positional possibilities” 23:25 - Q2: “Is it important to switch up your gym routine and how often?” 24:05 - Training variation and its importance in training longevity 26:22 - Wisdom from humans still active in their 50s and beyond 34:00 - Good rule of thumb for balancing routine and variety in the gym 34:50 - Q3: “I’m a cardio athlete and not seeing progress in the gym. How do I build muscle without killing my cardio gains?” 36:46 - Why strength training is beneficial to all athletes 40:43 - Hypertrophy training and endurance athletes 42:22 - If you’re not seeing gym progress, this is likely why 43:47 - Q4: “What’s your favorite form of preworkout? natural or not?” 😂 44:38 - My beef with preworkout & why I’m a bananas and coffee stan 47:40 - Natural or not? 48:59 - Why I don’t take creatine or protein powder for gainz RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS SHOW ~ Overcoming Gravity by Steven Low Lucas Hardie aka @rangeofstrength on Instagram The Ultimate Off Season Training Manual by Eric Cressey THANKS FOR LISTENING! Head to iTunes and leave a review for the podcast! It really helps the podcast out and would mean the world to me 💜 Thanks for tuning in and being part of an incredible podcast community 🥹💜 Lots of love, Caroline

“when we turn our next goal or our next desire to something meaningful, something truly life-altering from the inside, heart opening… when we do that then the circle [of life] emerges and we realize that it’s been there all along.” - Andrea Menard IN THIS EPISODE… What is rematriation and why is it so important for our future? Circular living and circular thinking The beautiful side of fear Inclusivity as a trait of the Sacred Feminine WELCOME ANDREA MENARD Andrea Menard is an accomplished Métis singer/songwriter, actor, speaker, wellness trainer, and the founder of the Sacred Feminine Learning Lodge. As seen in USA Today, Andrea is an influencer in feminine leadership and was named one of WXN Canada’s Most Powerful Women: Top 100 Award Winner in 2020. An advocate for rematriation and reconciliation, Andrea helps all-gendered people to reclaim and embody the qualities of the Sacred Feminine. She is also the author of the Seeds from the Sacred Feminine Wisdom Cards, (Mango Publishing) which contains 52 gentle, land-based teachings and beautiful paintings by Metis painter, Leah Dorion. One of the co-stars of the new hit CTV series, Sullivan’s Crossing, Andrea is a five-time Gemini-nominated actress, a 16-time music award winner, and was named ACTRA National’s “Woman of the Year” for 2021. She has released 5 award-winning albums, including her latest Michif language album, a symphony show, 2 television programs, and her TEDx Talk called “Silent No More” has reached almost 200,000 views. Andrea  has performed for royalty, prime ministers, governor-generals, residential school survivors, families of the missing and murdered Indigenous women, and even sang her song “Peace” to the world’s NATO generals.  Born in Manitoba, Andrea is a proud member of the Metis Nation of Canada. Her Metis family originates from St. Laurent, Manitoba. Andrea currently lives in the unceded traditional territory of the Squamish, Tsleil Waututh, and Musqueam peoples, also known as Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. CONNECT WITH ANDREA WEBSITE: www.andreamenard.com LINKEDIN: @andreamenard TWITTER: @andreamenard FACEBOOK: @andreamenardmusic INSTAGRAM: @andreamenardmusic YOUTUBE: @andreamenardmusic iTUNES: @andreamenard SPOTIFY: @andreamenard SOUNDCLOUD: @andreamenard BANDCAMP: @andreamenard EMAIL: [email protected] RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS SHOW ~ ANDREA’S SEEDS FROM THE SACRED FEMININE WISDOM CARDS THE SACRED FEMININE LEARNING LOUNGE HOLY HIIT!? THANKS FOR LISTENING! Head to iTunes and leave a review for the podcast! It really helps the podcast out and would mean the world to me 💜 Thanks for tuning in and being part of an incredible podcast community 🥹💜 Lots of love, Caroline

We’re back! From a mini vacay! With menstrual expert and advocate for holistic cyclical living, Lisa Jara. Join us for a nourishing conversation about the cycles of our lives, what we can learn from menstrual cycles about navigating change and much more. MEET LISA JARA ~ Lisa Jara is a menstrual health agent of change, helping women and menstruating folks to not dread "that time of the month", but holistically address the deeper causes of menstrual health challenges like PMS, PMDD, painful periods, endometriosis or PCOS, so they have a happy, healthy period and can navigate challenging life transitions with unshakable trust in themselves and their body. CONNECT WITH LISA On the web: https://lisa-jara.com Sign up to get her Soul Mail! https://lisa-jara.com/en/soul-mail-sign-up Find her on the gram: https://www.instagram.com/_lisajara On the Facebooks: https://www.facebook.com/its.lisa.jara LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-jara And YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCG3IUe0ROGTtuw8r3Pmwz9Q FAVORITE MOMENTS FROM THIS EPISODE ~ Why generalized advice about what to eat during each menstrual phase doesn’t always work Letting the cycles of our lives move at their natural pace Creating space for choice in the midst of our shitty human experiences Learning from our resistance to life RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS SHOW ~ SIGN UP FOR A HOLY HIIT CLASS! LEARN MORE ABOUT THE HAPPY PLACE CHALLENGE! GODDESS WISDOM MADE EASY BY TANISHKA BRENE BROWN’S MAGICAL WORK DAVID BEDRICK, UNSHAME YOUR LIFE THE WAR OF ART BY STEVEN PRESSFIELD DETAILED EPISODE BREAKDOWN ~ 0:00 - 10:00 ish: Meet Lisa! Join us for the Happy Place Challenge starting July 10th!  Lisa’s hot take on what it means to live cyclically Cyclical living alongside our existing obligations  10 - 20:00 ish: Why generalized advice about what to eat during each menstrual phase doesn’t always work Why coming to trust the body is a whole damn process 😂 Lisa’s journey from OCD and anorexia into trusting her body What cyclical living can teach us about impermanence 20 - 30:00 ish: How to work with the mini death-rebirth menstruation cycles The connection between PMS and our emotional expression A practice for microdosing your feelings :) The intersection between astrology and menstruation 30 - 40:00 ish: Letting the cycles of our lives move at their natural pace Unlearning shame 💜 Exploring our shared experiences of shame Shame as a social connector in one sense 40 - 50:00 ish: Welcoming the full range of human emotion Creating space for choice in the midst of our shitty human experiences Gently guiding our attention towards resourceful solutions Effectively navigating our way through problems Holding the meta-belief that we can rise to any challenge on our path 50:00 ish and beyond: Learning from our resistance to life Caroline’s “Year of Hard” Challenge Biggest takeaway lessons from the Year of Hard Challenge so far The importance of not only leaving the comfort zone but having a comfort zone to return to How to find Lisa on the interwebs THANKS FOR LISTENING! Head to iTunes and leave a review for the podcast! It really helps the podcast out and would mean the world to me 💜 Thanks for tuning in and being part of an incredible podcast community 🥹💜 Lots of love, Caroline

Ever wondered how we, as a society, got to our modern day idea of what it means to be "feminine?" Hayley Shapley is here to break it down for us. As an award-winning journalist and author, Hayley guides us through a brief history of strong women and how we've found ourselves with our modern ideas about "femininity" and muscularity in women. Tune in to get taken to school with me 👽 MEET HAYLEY SHAPLEY ~ Haley Shapley is an award-winning journalist, a certified group fitness instructor, and the author of Strong Like Her: A Celebration of Rule Breakers, History Makers, and Unstoppable Athletes, which traces the previously untold history of women who defied convention in pursuit of physical strength. She's contributed to Teen Vogue, Shape, Self, Shondaland, Forbes Health, and hundreds of other publications. When she's not writing, she's usually working toward a fitness goal; past pursuits have included running a marathon, riding her bike 200 miles, and competing in a bodybuilding show. CONNECT WITH HAYLEY On the gram: @hayleyshapley On the web: hayleyshapley.com Check Out Hayley’s Book! Strong Like Her: A Celebration of Rule Breakers, History Makers, and Unstoppable Athletes FAVORITE MOMENTS FROM THIS EPISODE ~ How the Industrial Revolution shaped our modern day view of “femininity” How a binary conception of gender creates polarity between “men” and “women” Misconceptions about fitness, female fertility and energy levels that date back to the Victorian Era How legislation opened doors for women in the 70s and beyond What happens when you start to question your perceived limitations? RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS SHOW ~ PODCAST EPISODE: HOW TO MAKE THE GYM A HAPPY PLACE [USING BIOLOGY INSTEAD OF WILLPOWER] LEARN MORE ABOUT THE HAPPY PLACE CHALLENGE! DETAILED EPISODE BREAKDOWN ~ 0:00 - 10:00 ish: Meet Hayley! Join us for the Happy Place Challenge starting July 10th!  How Hayley got into strength sports and eventually got curious about the history of strong women 10 - 20:00 ish: Hayley’s hunt for ancient examples of strong women Reflecting on times throughout history where muscularity in women was more widely accepted How the Industrial Revolution shaped our modern day view of “femininity” How a binary conception of gender creates polarity between “men” and “women” Muscle beach and America’s changing views on “working out” 20 - 30:00 ish: Pudgy Stockton being a baddie with her possé 💅🏽 Pudgy Stockton - the Queen of Muscle Beach The culture of the original Muscle Beach How Pudgy changed women’s perspective on weight lifting ❤️‍🔥 Social media and aesthetic goals Aesthetic goals as a gateway into a deeper relationship with what our bodies are capable of 30 - 40:00 ish: The subjectivity of “bulky” and how it limits the potential of women Misconceptions about fitness, female fertility and energy levels that date back to the Victorian Era The importance of relatable role models in helping women live into their full potential How legislation opens doors for women and the role of Title IX 40 - 50:00 ish: Social media, diverse representation and normalizing our desires and aspirations What happens when you start to question your perceived limitations? The many many types of strength that women embody ❤️‍🔥 Hayley’s incredible experience of writing and publishing her amazing book, Strong Like Her  THANKS FOR LISTENING! Head to iTunes and leave a review for the podcast! It really helps the podcast out and would mean the world to me 💜 Thanks for tuning in and being part of an incredible podcast community 🥹💜 Lots of love, Caroline

Today’s episode is such an incredible honor to put out into the world - fam, meet Lauren LoGrasso 💜 Lauren is a highly accomplished and award-winning podcaster, singer/songwriter and public speaker. And today, she’s here to share BEAUTIFUL thoughts about the connection between our bodies and our creative lives. MEET LAUREN LOGRASSO ~ Named by Podcast Magazine as one of the twenty two unsung heroes of podcasting and by CEO Weekly as one of the top 10 inspiring women to follow, Lauren LoGrasso has carved out a major name for herself in media and entertainment. Lauren LoGrasso is a multi-passionate creative best known for her extensive work as a podcast host, executive producer, singer/songwriter, SAG-AFTRA actor and public speaker.   As a podcast host and EP she has helped create and produce hit shows such as We Can Do Hard Things with Glennon Doyle (premiered at #1 & named top new podcast of 2021 by Apple and Amazon,) Brené Brown's Unlocking Us (Premiered at #1 and named top new podcast of 2020 by Apple,) Anything Goes with Emma Chamberlain, Lauren Conrad: Asking for a Friend (Premiered at #1,) The goop Podcast, Girlboss Radio, Meaningful Conversations with Maria Shriver, From the Heart with Rachel Brathen (aka Yoga Girl), Queerified with Gigi Gorgeous and Mimi, Goopfellas, She Rates Dogs: The Podcast, No F*cks Given Podcast, Pod is a Woman, Crazy Stupid Fangirls, Self-Service Podcast and her own show, Unleash Your Inner Creative with Lauren LoGrasso. All of these shows premiered on the Apple top charts and continue to chart regularly in multiple countries.   Unleash Your Inner Creative, which she executive produces and hosts (under her company Lauren LoGrasso Productions LLC,) recently won a Signal Award, was named a Webby Award Honoree, has won four communicator awards (best host and best show,) a Hermes Platinum Award (best podcast,) a W3 Award (best host,) and has been nominated for multiple People's Choice Podcast awards. It is frequently on the top 200 charts in multiple countries, was on Apple's New and Noteworthy 37 times and has a solid 5 star review. Lauren and the show have been featured in publications such as Podcast Magazine, Business Insider, Maria Shriver's Sunday Paper, In Touch Weekly, VoyageLA and on NBC LX, The JAM Chicago and Cheddar TV, as well as dozens of additional podcasts and radio shows. As an interviewer she's talked with the Likes of Guy Raz (NPR,) Julia Cameron (The Artist's Way,) DJ Khaled, Melody Beattie (Codependent No More,) Sharon Stone, Kathy Griffin, Jim Kwik (Kwik Brain,) Ledisi, Mira Sorvino, Amanda Peet and many more. Previous work includes her time hosting and producing at AfterBuzz TV for AfterShows such as Ozark, Big Brother, and Grace and Frankie and Executive Producing and co-hosting Maria Menounos' radio show at SiriusXM and guest co-hosting on The Mitch Albom Show. As a singer/songwriter, she's known for working with Grammy-Award Winning producer, Jeff Bova, having her music placed in the award-winning short film, Cats Outta The Bag and the award-winning feature film, Love Market (Which she also starred in,) playing iconic venues such as House of Blues Sunset, The Viper Room, Hardrock Cafe (Hollywood and Detroit,) and getting featured in People Magazine, Yahoo, as well as on top shows on both SiriusXM and Terrestrial radio.   As a public speaker she has been featured at the Girlboss Rally, as well as being a keynote speaker at The Pretty Thing Tour, Michigan State University, The Publisher’s Publicity Association and more.   She graduated from Michigan State University with a BFA in Acting and a BA in Communication with an emphasis in media. CONNECT WITH LAUREN On the gram: https://www.instagram.com/laurenlograsso/ On TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@laurenlograsso On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/laurenlograsso On the Twitters: https://twitter.com/laurenlograsso Listen to her music and see all the cool things People Magazine has said about her work here: https://linktr.ee/laurenlograsso  CHECK OUT LAUREN’S AMAZING PODCAST, UNLEASH YOUR INNER CREATIVE! Unleash Your Inner Creative: https://tr.ee/w7TmyxmMf7 FAVORITE MOMENTS FROM THIS EPISODE ~ The connection between our bodies and our creative lives  Choosing to experience the full spectrum of life The key that seems to unlock a flourishing creative life for many folks Self forgiveness as a path to self trust 🥹 What if we could be ourselves everywhere? RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS SHOW ~ PODCAST EPISODE: HOW TO MAKE THE GYM A HAPPY PLACE [USING BIOLOGY INSTEAD OF WILLPOWER] LEARN MORE ABOUT THE HAPPY PLACE CHALLENGE! DETAILED EPISODE BREAKDOWN ~ 0:00 - 10:00 ish: Meet Lauren! Episode overview + how to connect with Lauren How Lauren came to fall in love with her own creative expression 10 - 20:00 ish: The life long journey of making ourselves available for creative urges The connection between our bodies and our creative lives Things Lauren is currently learning about bodies, sexuality + creative blocks Clearly hearing our own voices rise above the noise of social conditioning 20 - 30:00 ish: Committing to being fully human 💜 Rewriting the narratives around sexuality that we grew up with Choosing to experience the full spectrum of life Recounting our first times having sex 😂 Innocent moments in youth that got labeled ‘un-ladylike’ and how that sticks with us 30 - 40:00 ish: All the old stories about repressing and shrinking have the same energetic signature to them The key that seems to unlock a flourishing creative life for many folks Failing at things we love is better than succeeding at something we don’t deeply care about [27:15] Self forgiveness as a path to self trust 🥹 Letting the messy, suffering moments be messy and then moving forward Objectively witnessing our own suffering 40 - 50:00 ish: Letting our feels have their experience while also keeping an eye out for the lesson Repressing our feels and imagining the downstream consequences of reactive decisions Maintaining open, healthy relationships as we grow and change Bringing our family into our creative lives 50-60:00 ish: What if we could be ourselves everywhere? Being our own advocate wherever we go Reflecting on the many parts that make up who we each are Go listen to Unleash Your Inner Creative and say hey to Lauren on the interwebs! THANKS FOR LISTENING! Head to iTunes and leave a review for the podcast! It really helps the podcast out and would mean the world to me 💜 Thanks for tuning in and being part of an incredible podcast community 🥹💜 Lots of love, Caroline

Just you + me + the microphone today, friends! 🎉 This episode is here to help normalize all the awkward things you might experience when you get started on your gym journey! If you’re just getting started in the gym or if you’ve been gym curious, I hope this episode helps you feel less alone and let’s you know that you’re in great company 👍🏻 FAVORITE MOMENTS FROM THIS EPISODE ~ The universal experience we all have on our very first day in a commercial gym Why feeling self conscious about our lifting form is actually a good thing Holding a healthy awareness that we don’t know everything Anticipating a very common dip in motivation at the one month mark All the amazing experiences you have to look forward to in the gym and beyond!!! 🎉🎉🎉💜💜💜🌈🌈🌈  RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS SHOW ~ PODCAST EPISODE: HOW TO MAKE THE GYM A HAPPY PLACE [USING BIOLOGY INSTEAD OF WILLPOWER] LEARN MORE ABOUT THE HAPPY PLACE CHALLENGE! DETAILED EPISODE BREAKDOWN ~ 0:00 - 10:00 ish: The universal experience we all have on our very first day in a commercial gym How to overcome the awkward experience of feeling lost in the gym How to approach people and make gym friends 🥰 10 - 20:00 ish: Why feeling self conscious about our lifting form is actually a good thing Our relationship with our lifting form evolves over time Novel movements are great for bodies (even when we’re self conscious about them) 20 - 30:00 ish: Holding a healthy awareness that we don’t know everything Using the feelings of self consciousness to drive the pursuit of mastery When is the tipping point where we truly fall in love with the gym? Important differences between sustainable fitness habits and “quick fix weight loss” strategies Anticipating a very common dip in motivation that I’ve noticed at the one month mark The beautiful, magical, sacred opportunity for unconditional self love that pops up on a gym journey Choosing to experience unconditional joy in our bodies 30 - 40:00 ish: Shifting and evolving gym goals over time Tips and guidance for your first workout in the gym Tips on how to use the feeling of being self conscious about form productively How to navigate ‘the dip’ that many people experience on their gym journey All the amazing experiences you have to look forward to in the gym and beyond!!! 🎉🎉🎉💜💜💜🌈🌈🌈  THANKS FOR LISTENING! Head to iTunes and leave a review for the podcast! It really helps the podcast out and would mean the world to me 💜 Thanks for tuning in and being part of an incredible podcast community 🥹💜 Lots of love, Caroline

Tune in for an episode with Chris Skipper on navigating change, embracing the unknown, and the deep joy that comes with serving others! Chris is a personal trainer, spin instructor and wonderful human being.   MEET CHRIS SKIPPER ~ Chris is an ISSA certified personal trainer with Iron Will Gym. He’s currently spearheading a new spin program at Iron Will Gym and also teaches spin classes at the University of Virginia. After his own journey of fitness that transformed him from 400 lbs + addicted to substances to living a vibrant, thriving life - he’s now passionate about helping others live their own vibrant, thriving lives.   CONNECT WITH CHRIS On the web: https://www.skipintofitnesscoaching.com/ On Instagram: @skipintofitnesscoaching On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-skipper-9122a119a On Facebook: as Chris Skipper   FAVORITE MOMENTS FROM THIS EPISODE ~ Choosing not to fight your own come up Participating in our own dreams 🌈🥰💜 Chris’s journey from 400 lbs + addicted to fitness professional 🥰 Setting other-focused goals, altruism is also selfish, celebrating the wins of other people Passion, emotionality + deep care for your craft Healthy boundaries in relationships   RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS SHOW ~ IRON WILL GYM LEARN ABOUT THE HAPPY PLACE CHALLENGE! ART OF IMPOSSIBLE BY STEVEN KOTLER   DETAILED EPISODE BREAKDOWN ~ 0:00 - 10:00 ish: Meet Chris! 🎉 All about the Happy Place Challenge! The beauty of zig-zagging to find our unique path Choosing not to fight your own come up 10 - 20:00 ish: Closing one door helps you see aaall the other doors available Participating in our own dreams 🌈🥰💜 Making the hard, uncomfortable, but true decisions Getting comfortable in the unknown 🛸👽 20 - 30:00 ish: Learning humility, self love and how to slow down from barbells Incredible humans in the fitness community Chris’s journey from 400 lbs + addicted to fitness professional 🥰 Self vs. other-focused living Walking through the gym door is a milestone + accomplishment in itself 30 - 40:00 ish: Using shame as fuel for action [and nothing else] Chris’s powerlifting era And now the spin era 🛸 You can do anything you want in fitness, but not everything at once 40 - 50:00 ish: Everyone is entitled to good health 💜 Setting other-focused goals, altruism is also selfish, celebrating the wins of other people Participating in the wins and goals of others 50 - 60:00 ish: Passion, emotionality + deep care for your craft Healthy boundaries in relationships Adjusting our tolerance for malarkey over time through experience Exploring boundaries with old thought patterns in our brains How to connect with Chris!   THANKS FOR LISTENING! Head to iTunes and leave a review for the podcast! It really helps the podcast out and would mean the world to me 💜 Thanks for tuning in and being part of an incredible podcast community 🥹💜 Lots of love, Caroline

Tune in for an episode with Toni Jackson on training, body image, and finding purpose and meaning through helping others 💜 Toni is an experienced powerlifter and has worked as a personal coach for the last 15 years and her perspective and insights are invaluable. Enjoy this episode and love you so much! MEET TONI JACKSON ~ Toni is an Albermarle County native with a master's degree from UVA in Professional Counseling. In addition, she is certified as a Qualified Mental Health Professional (QMHP) and Behavior Technician. Starting in 2011, she began integrating physical fitness into her client support regimes. Toni is an experienced powerlifter and has worked as a personal coach for the past 15 years. Toni believes that by strengthening our bodies we strengthen our minds. She works with women of all ages, backgrounds and abilities in a way that opens the door to self-empowerment.

Meet Katherine - an expert in inclusive innovation and wizard of thriving with physical and neurodiversities! 🎉 In this episode, we talk about knowing thyself and building a life that supports your thrive. This episode was such a blast to record and Katherine is officially one of my new favorite people, I hope you enjoy! 🎉💜 MEET KATHERINE MCCORD ~ Katherine, a physically and neurodiverse woman herself, built her career on inclusive innovation as an entrepreneur in People Operations and HR Tech. She lives by the motto that different is not a deficit. CONNECT WITH KATHERINE On the web: https://www.kmccordspeaking.com On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katherine-mccord-093bb343/ On the TikToks: @KatTheHRTitan FAVORITE MOMENTS FROM THIS EPISODE ~ some of my favorite lines of conversation that came up in this episode: Understanding the biology underlying neurodiversity can be a superpower Building the habit of paying attention to our personal rhythms Boundary setting! And the kind act of being clear with others Letting the pain of our mistakes really sink in with us 💜 Feeling grateful for the times in our lives when we’ve made mistakes RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS SHOW ~ THE OCTOPUS MOVEMENT TRAINING WITH CAROLINE DETAILED EPISODE BREAKDOWN ~ 0:00 - 10:00 ish: Meet Katherine! and a quick overview of today’s episode 💜 How to train virtually with Caroline! A moment about hair 🎀 10 - 20:00 ish: Katherine’s childhood journey with OCD and Bipolar Tracking behavior and mental health to support oneself in each season Menopause and neurodiversity Understanding the biology underlying neurodiversity can be a superpower 20 - 30:00 ish: Knowledge as a tool to combat the spiraling stories of the brain Paying attention to our bodies and the signals they’re sending us Building the habit of paying attention to our personal rhythms The gift of supportive environments and supportive people Giving honest support to those in your life with neurodiversities 30 - 40:00 ish: Neurodiversity and dialed in bullsh*t radars 😂 Boundary setting! And the kind act of being clear with others Katherine’s jerk theory and poop emoji scale for human jerkiness 😂 Boundaries as a two-way opportunity for growth Sometimes the best choice is to walk away Making the hard choice of walking away from the things and people that aren’t for us 40 - 50:00 ish: Evolving as a jerk 😂 Honoring our past asshole selves Letting the pain of our mistakes really sink in with us 💜 Communicating through painful experiences and mistakes Feeling grateful for the times in our lives when we’ve made mistakes More boundaries! 🎉 50:00 ish and beyond: Feeling grateful for early challenges in Katherine’s life About The Octopus Movement THANKS FOR LISTENING! Head to iTunes and leave a review for the podcast! It really helps the podcast out and would mean the world to me 💜 Thanks for tuning in and being part of an incredible podcast community 🥹💜 Lots of love, Caroline

Join me in talking with Hilary Truong, founder of Hilary Mae and Co! We have an AMAZING conversation about the mother-daughter relationship. How and why this critical relationship can get so sticky, what we can do about it, and how society-at-large shapes the mother-daughter relationship. All women everywhere - listen 👏🏼 to 👏🏼 this 👏🏼 episode 👏🏼 For the love of all things holy. Trust me 💜 MEET HILARY TRUONG ~ Hilary Truong is a mother-daughter relationship expert and former therapist for teen girls and a leading voice on keeping mothers and daughters in relationship through the teen years. She is on a mission to rewrite the narrative for mothers and teen daughters and shares her passion by speaking at schools and associations for girls and women, coaching mothers of girls and hosting immersive travel experiences for mothers and daughters. CONNECT WITH HILARY On the web: www.hilarymae.com On Instagram: @hilarymaeco On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/hilarymaeco On the Facebooks: https://www.facebook.com/hilarymaeco 🫧 CLICK HERE TO CHECK OUT HER FREE WORKSHOP SERIES FAVORITE MOMENTS FROM THIS EPISODE ~ some of my favorite lines of conversation that came up in this episode: The incredible impact of watching our mothers model behavior patterns Breaking the ‘am I expecting too much of men?’ thought pattern Slowly breaking old patterns across generations Letting go of solving other peoples’ problems so we can solve the big problems that give our own lives meaning Mothers meeting their own emotional needs vs. projecting them onto the daughter Embracing the natural course of the mother-daughter relationship Honoring the unfulfilled dreams of our grandmothers 💜 RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS SHOW ~ WORK WITH CAROLINE 1:1 THROUGH THE INTERWEBS 👽 THE WORKS OF ROSJKE HASSELDINE DOWN GIRL BY KATE MANN DETAILED EPISODE BREAKDOWN ~ 0:00 - 10:00 ish: Meet Hilary! and a quick overview of today’s episode 💜 When Hilary first realized the mother-daughter relationship needed more investigation… Why are the teen years so critical? What’s so unique about them? The importance of moms feeling supported so they can be truly supportive for their daughters Moms and daughters seeing each other through softer eyes 🌈 10 - 20:00 ish: The ‘female experience’ as a bond between mother + daughter How living inside the patriarchy sets this relationship up for conflict The culture of ‘female service’ and expectations placed on women to serve and give Women’s right to express our needs and ask for what we need The incredible impact of watching our mothers model behavior patterns Men learning to take on their share of the emotional labor The ‘am I expecting too much of men?’ thinking pattern 20 - 30:00 ish: Reflecting on the growing appreciation of emotional labor with each generation Changing the patterns we pass on through family Slowly breaking old patterns across generations Learning about our mother lines 💜 Our mothers, grandmothers and great grandmothers The sacrifice that’s made by our female predecessors Letting go of solving other peoples’ problems so we can solve the big problems that give our own lives meaning What happens when a mom’s emotional needs aren’t met 30 - 40:00 ish: Mothers meeting their own emotional needs vs. projecting them onto the daughter Letting go of the expectations that mothers + daughters should be best friends Embracing the natural course of the mother-daughter relationship The importance of finding satisfaction outside of being a mother Wrangling with cultural echos from the 50’s about what it means to be a woman Human Giver Syndrome Honoring the unfulfilled dreams of our grandmothers 💜 40 - 50:00 ish: Hilary’s personal definition of what it means to her to be a mother Letting motherhood be messy, real and honest THANKS FOR LISTENING! Head to iTunes and leave a review for the podcast! It really helps the podcast out and would mean the world to me 💜 Thanks for tuning in and being part of an incredible podcast community 🥹💜 Lots of love, Caroline