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Leader Effectiveness | Pete DeLisle Interview Part 2

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Pete DeLisle, PhD, uses memorable case studies and stories to reflect on  leader effectiveness that you can incorporate into your own style of leadership. He is my guest in Episode 35 of Agile Digital Business.

Show notes, time codes and key take-aways:

0:00 A snippet of Pete teaching about the reciprocity behaviors of the Apollo 13 (you can watch the movie as homework!)

:35 Intro of Episode 35 of Agile Digital Business

:55 Request that you grab a screenshot of the show and share it on your favorite social media channel

1:16 Reminder that you can find key takeaways from this episode and others when you search on: #teachinspireconnect #agiledigitalbiz

3:04 Pete was a guest in Episode 32 of the show for the Part 1 interview

3:30 Welcoming Dr. Pete DeLisle back to the mic!

4:15 Pete teaches in the executive education. You can hear more of Pete's bio back in Episode 32.

... Framing the leader effectiveness theory ...

4:38 Introducing elements of leader effectiveness: awareness of self; awareness of other people (what's going on with them); situational awareness (what's going on around you). Leadership is the ability to influence people with or without authority.

6:42 "Leading without authority, to me, is a much higher form of leadership." - Pete DeLisle, PhD

6:58 The ability to make hard decisions.

7:30 The next element of the ability to lead is foresight.

7:46 Working through the what-might-happen-if scenarios.

8:06 Foresight causes a leader to develop a sense of preparedness.

8:32 Pete talks about the ethos of the US Coast Guard. Their motto is semper paratus. Their underlying ethos is: "We have to go out. We don't necessarily have to come back."

8:50 The last element of effective leadership is commitment. The three levels of engagement include volunteer, duty and reciprocity.

10:30 A question about the stage of a career at which a person thinks about the elements of an effective leader.

11:53 Ensuring that you're taking care of the folks you're working with. "If you don't have folks to do the job, frankly, the job doesn't get done." - Pete DeLisle, PhD

12:37 "We see many organizations that just drive people into the ground. They treat people as if they're expendable. They may be successful for a short period of time, but they don't last long.

Sometimes we see organizations that are much more concerned about the welfare of folks, and they forget how to do business." - Pete DeLisle, PhD

13:20 "If I owned this business, how would I be handling this situation?" - a lens to use when viewing the actions of a leader. - Vickie Maris

15:45 References to the movie, and the real-live event of Apollo 13 ("One of the best movies on leadership and problem solving that you'll ever see." - Pete DeLisle, PhD)

17:30 Astronaut Capt. Jim Lovell's act of courage was to say out loud, over the air, in front of everybody, "Houston, we've got a problem."

18:15 The team on the ground had an absolute commitment to help them be safe and to get them home.

20:00 This episode is sponsored by the group coaching and courses offered through Mastermind.com by Vickie Maris.

Coaching Group: Introduction to Live-streaming and Engaging in Social Media 

Coaching Group: DIY Course Creation and Recording of Direct-to-Camera Videos 

Self-Study: DIY Course Creation and Recording of Direct-to-Camera Videos

22:45 If you would like to learn more about Pete DeLisle's schedule for teaching in professional development programs, send an email to agiledigitalbusiness @ gmail dot com, and we'll forward your inquiry to Pete. He is teaching in online environments as well as upcoming in-person events.

23:35 Story of Ken Mattingly on the ground in the simulator troubleshooting while his colleagues were in space.

25:11 Story of hearing Jim Lovell and Gene Kranz speak during the Ag Alumni Fish Fry for Purdue University, 2007.

26:10 Relating the story and movie of Apollo 13 to Vickie's dad, Jim Maris, a military pilot and also an educator.

28:16 Discussion about the times when rules need to be broken.

28:37 Brief story about the D-Day experience in a sky full of B-24s with lights out and in radio silence.

30:40 Pete describes an example of when a leader has to consider disobeying an order.

33:04 Pete shares an example of the captain of a US Navy Aircraft carrier making a decision to take the USS Theodore Roosevelt offline.

37:00 Homework assignments: Watch Apollo 13 and Princess Bride.

Closing thoughts: "Leadership. It's about influencing people. It's not about rank. It's not about position. It's not about power. It's about the willingness to suggest to other people that there might be better ways to solve problems." - Pete DeLisle

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