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The Biggest Mistakes Leaders Make During Change: Masha Gaganova

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Leadership doesn't fail because people resist change.


It fails because organisations measure the wrong things, chase Agile without understanding it, and overwhelm teams with constant transformation.


In this episode of the Everyday Agile Podcast, I sit down with change consultant, keynote speaker and Agile coach Masha Gaganova to discuss why modern organisations struggle with transformation, what great leaders do differently, and how teams can thrive in fast-changing environments.


We discuss:

Why people don't actually resist change

Agile myths leaders still believe

Transformation fatigue

Better metrics than KPIs

AI adoption inside organisations

Leadership behaviours that destroy trust

Building high-performing teams

Change management

Product thinking

Psychological safety

Becoming a keynote speaker

Building your personal brand on LinkedIn


Whether you're a Project Manager, Product Manager, Delivery Manager, Scrum Master, Agile Coach, CTO or Engineering Leader, this episode is packed with practical advice you can apply immediately.


👇 Let us know in the comments:

Do people resist change... or poor leadership?


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Chapters:

00:00 Introduction

01:05 Meet Masha Gaganova

03:15 Why Workshops Beat Endless Meetings

05:40 What Frustrates Her About Agile

06:30 What Agile Really Means

07:20 Lessons From Corporate Life

08:40 The Biggest Career Lesson

10:50 Why Teams Measure The Wrong Things

12:05 Better Metrics Than KPIs

13:25 Leadership Behaviours That Kill Teams

15:00 Why Vulnerability Matters

17:00 Advice For Graduates & New Consultants

19:10 AI Hype & Transformation Fatigue

21:05 Signs Your Team Is Burnt Out

22:20 Is "Transformation" The Wrong Word?

24:05 Agile Myths Leaders Still Believe

26:35 An Underrated Leadership Framework

30:00 Avoiding Burnout

32:00 Becoming A Conference Speaker

36:05 Building A LinkedIn Presence

38:05 Why People Don't Resist Change

39:30 The Future Of Work

40:05 What Gives Masha Hope

42:35 Where To Find Masha

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