Episode 5:01: Death and Ptyxis

Coming up in this episode * 2 be or y292B? * Set your watch to Mozilla * And we FINALLY get back to ya 0:00 Cold Open 2:35 libfuse2 & Y292B 15:09 Mozilla Alt Text & Layoffs 37:35 Pjolt on Thunderbird & iOS 45:20 Chris Recommends an Android 49:34 Chaos-r3v says it's FreeBSD 58:51 Stan Wonders: Mint or Ubuntu? 1:04:35 Next Time! 1:06:45 Stinger The Video Version! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV67oDTbqU0) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV67oDTbqU0 Preshow If your podcatcher made you feel like you have deja vu for episode 5:04, you probably were correct. We had a little mixup on the upload. Just delete the bad episode and re-download. You can verify the episode here - https://linuxuserspace.show/504 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 🔥Warm Up🔥 Our Appimage video has outdated instructions. Ubuntu renamed the libfuse2 package to libfuse2t64. More information on the AppImageKit wiki page (https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/FUSE) about the correct Fuse packages for your distribution. 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, [email protected] OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Mozilla Watch Mozilla is using AI to help improve alt text generation (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/ai/help-us-improve-our-alt-text-generation-model/) Mozilla announce a huge 30 percent layoff (https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/5/24289124/mozilla-foundation-layoffs-advocacy-global-programs) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) Feedback Pjolt - Thunderbird for iOS? Thunderbird is in the roadmap for iOS (https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/thunderbird-for-iphone-and-ipad/idc-p/55779/highlight/true#M32691) Chris - Which Android device? The Pixel (https://swappa.com/buy/google-pixel-7a) has Chris's vote. Chaos-r3v - Juniper Network switches At least under the hood Junos OS is based on FreeBSD (https://www.juniper.net/documentation/us/en/software/junos/junos-install-upgrade/topics/topic-map/junos-os-overview.html) Stan - Multiple Operating Systems on the same hardware It is posssible to dualboot Ubuntu (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot) and Linux Mint (https://www.learnlinux.tv/how-to-dual-boot-windows-11-linux-mint-step-by-step-guide/) or just about any Linux distribution. As far as which distribution is best, that really depends on you and what works best in your mind. 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover the history episode of Snap Packages (https://snapcraft.io/). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Matt M. Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose MarshMan GrouchyM Pjol Tim Super User A.J. Advait Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

Coming up in this episode * Style it Like it's 1999 * It Violates Freedom 0! * We Turn it off and on again * and You Can Send it to LUS! 0:00 Cold Open 2:10 Going Back to 1999 23:32 Bitwarden Says "BOO!" 39:11 Turn It Off and On Again 56:02 The Windows Cliff 1:16:41 Next Time! 1:20:05 Stinger And the video version! (https://youtu.be/wXODmWq9ZZU) https://youtu.be/wXODmWq9ZZU Warm Up How to make a web page? CSS (https://www.w3.org/TR/CSS/#css) and HTML? (https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/) A static site generator like Jekyll (https://jekyllrb.com) or Hugo? (https://gohugo.io) A CMS like Drupal (https://www.drupal.org) or Joomla? (https://www.joomla.org) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Bitwarden gives a scare The issue (https://github.com/bitwarden/clients/issues/11611) Whoopsie Doodle (https://x.com/Bitwarden/status/1848135725663076446) Bitwarden License FAQ (https://github.com/bitwarden/server/blob/main/LICENSE_FAQ.md) Bitwarden SDK License (https://github.com/bitwarden/sdk/blob/main/LICENSE) It violates freedom 0! (https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html) After we recorded there was further news. (https://www.phoronix.com/news/Bitwarden-Code-Cleared-Up) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, [email protected] OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Turn it off and back on again NSA has some advice for you (https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21018353/nsa-mobile-device-best-practices.pdf) The Forbes take (https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2024/10/22/nsa-tells-iphone-and-android-users-reboot-your-device-now/) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) Your PC is no good, send it to LUS The Windows 10 cliff (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/10/lots-of-pcs-are-poised-to-fall-off-the-windows-10-update-cliff-one-year-from-today/) What should people do? Send us your feedback! (https://linuxuserspace.show/contact) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover more feedback and topics. Our next history episode will be on Snap Packages (https://snapcraft.io/). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose MarshMan GrouchyM Pjol Tim Super User A.J. Advait Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

Coming up in this episode * The Archive Gets Downed * Thunderbird Goes Mobile * and the Oriole Takes Flight 0:00 Cold Open 1:44 Panic at the Archive! 20:00 Thunderbird's On Android 43:11 Ubuntu's Out, We're In 1:05:15 Next Time 1:08:18 Stinger The Video Version! (https://youtu.be/08a-W_qHwHI) https://youtu.be/08a-W_qHwHI Warm Up The Internet Archive suffers a DDoS attack and breach (https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/internet-archive-hacked-data-breach-impacts-31-million-users/) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Thunderbird for Android The Beta announcement (https://blog.thunderbird.net/2024/09/help-us-test-the-thunderbird-for-android-beta/) arsTechnica article (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/10/thunderbird-android-client-is-k-9-mail-reborn-and-its-in-solid-beta/) The Register article (https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/09/thunderbird_for_android_beta/?td=rt-3a) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, [email protected] OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Ubuntu and flavors release 24.10 Ubuntu (https://ubuntu.com/blog/canonical-releases-ubuntu-24-10-oracular-oriole) Kubuntu (https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-24-10-oracular-oriole-released/) Lubuntu (https://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-24-10-oracular-oriole-released/) Ubuntu Budgie (https://ubuntubudgie.org/2024/10/ubuntu-budgie-24-10-release-notes/) Ubuntu Mate (https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-oracular-oriole-release-notes/) Edubuntu (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/edubuntu-24-10-released/48647) Ubuntu Studio (https://ubuntustudio.org/2024/10/ubuntu-studio-24-10-released/) Ubuntu Cinnamon (https://ubuntucinnamon.org/?p=1348) Ubuntu Unity (https://ubuntuunity.org/posts/ubuntu-unity-2410-released/) Ubuntu Kylin (https://www.ubuntukylin.com/news/ubuntukylin2410-en.html) Xubuntu (https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-24-10-released/) Canonical's new Kernel selection policy explained (https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/08/canonical-announce-major-ubuntu-kernel-change) Stay tuned, Fedora 41 is coming soon (https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-41/f-41-all-tasks.html) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to cover the history of Snap Packages (https://snapcraft.io/). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose MarshMan GrouchyM Pjol Tim Super User A.J. Advait Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince

Coming up in this episode * Another browser watch * The History of Linux Mint and Cinnamon * And how spiced was it? 0:00 Cold Open 1:26 The Mozilla Happenings 22:13 Linux Mint & Cinnamon History 26:54 The Early Mints 32:46 Cinnamon Arrives! 38:49 The Mint and Cinnamon Journey 49:53 Our Spicy Cinnamon Journeys 1:16:44 Next Time! 1:20:09 Stinger The Video Version! (https://youtu.be/ZK9mn5miMPM) https://youtu.be/ZK9mn5miMPM Warm Up Mozilla got a new logo (https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/24/24253028/mozilla-brand-update-tyrannosaurus-rex-logo). Mozilla dot Social is dead on December 17th (https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/18/24248142/mozilla-will-shut-down-its-mastodon-server-on-december-17th). 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 The History of Cinnamon A new distro release (https://web.archive.org/web/20061019115016/http://linuxmint.com/content/blogsection/9/55/) Three months later (https://web.archive.org/web/20061210132202/http://lt.k1011.nutime.de/news.html) Version 2.0 of Linux Mint (https://web.archive.org/web/20061208052311/http://lt.k1011.nutime.de/20061113.html) Bea, version 2.1 (https://web.archive.org/web/20061209094505/http://lt.k1011.nutime.de/20061201.html) Bianca, version 2.2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20070708184233/http://linuxmint.com/) Mint's very own package manager 'apt' which is not-the-same-as-the-apt-you-know (https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=68) Lisa, version 12 (https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1889) Maya, version 13 (https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2031) Cinnamon 1.1.2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20120920015647/http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?p=53) Nemo was forked from Nautilus, Gnome's file manager (https://web.archive.org/web/20120905232228/http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/?p=198) Cinnamon 2.2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20150418060752/http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2014/04/cinnamon-2-2) Cinnamon 2.4 (https://web.archive.org/web/20150329002036/http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2014/11/cinnamon-2-4/) Nemo got a plugin manager (https://web.archive.org/web/20150729143250/http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2015/06/cinnamon-2-6/). Cinnamon 2.8, gained a power applet (https://web.archive.org/web/20151129213516/http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2015/11/cinnamon-2-8-released/) Apps written by the Mint team for... everything (https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2985) Cinnamon 3.0 was released (https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3026) Better touchpad support, more animations and better window management. (https://web.archive.org/web/20161008034617/http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2016/04/cinnamon-3-0-released/) Plugins that Cinnamon could use were called Spices (https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3094) Cinnamon 3.4 (https://web.archive.org/web/20170708083908/http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_sonya_cinnamon_whatsnew.php) Cinnamon 3.6 (https://web.archive.org/web/20180401182007/https://linuxmint.com/rel_sylvia_cinnamon_whatsnew.php) Cinnamon 4.0 (https://www.linuxmint.com/rel_tessa_cinnamon_whatsnew.php) Cinnamon 5.0 (https://www.linuxmint.com/rel_uma_cinnamon_whatsnew.php) "Thingy" (https://github.com/linuxmint/thingy) Cinnamon 6.0 with experimental Wayland (https://9to5linux.com/cinnamon-6-0-desktop-environment-arrives-with-initial-wayland-support) Cinnamon 6.4 will end up with a much needed facelift. (https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4740) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, [email protected] OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to explore your feedback and some other topics. Our next history episode will be Snap Packages (https://snapcraft.io/). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space. Watch for our livestream announcements. Stay tuned📡 for announcements of our return and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose MarshMan GrouchyM Pjol Tim Super User A.J. Advait Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

Coming up in this episode * Death & Taxes * Stop Filing Bug Reports! -- like that * and Your Emails! 0:00 Cold Open 1:25 Yubikeys are DEAD! 10:41 Deep In the Heart of Ptyxis 28:01 The Do's and Don'ts of Bug Reports 42:47 Email: Scott J 49:47 Email: Ben 52:49 Email: Bruce H 57:48 Email: Rob Simmons 1:03:22 Email: DailyDriver 1:04:24 Email: J 1:08:34 Pnext Time 1:10:17 Pstinger See the Video on Youtube (https://youtu.be/jWSVnDYeEe4)! https://youtu.be/jWSVnDYeEe4 Your Yubikey is DEAD! The Yubico advisory (https://www.yubico.com/support/security-advisories/ysa-2024-03/) arsTechnica coverage (https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/09/yubikeys-are-vulnerable-to-cloning-attacks-thanks-to-newly-discovered-side-channel/) The really deep dive details (https://ninjalab.io/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/20240903_eucleak.pdf) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Ptyxis? Accessibility in Ptyxis (https://blogs.gnome.org/chergert/2024/02/29/accessibility-in-ptyxis/) Fedora workstation (Gnome) will switch for F41. (https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/417) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, [email protected] OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum). How to ask for help. (Social Soapbox) Dan's blog post (https://www.linuxuserspace.show/articles/how-to-ask-for-help). Article written by Simon Tatham (https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html). Lubuntu wiki page (https://git.lubuntu.me/lubuntu-wiki/wiki/wiki/Bugs) about submitting bugs. 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) * 📱 Linux User Space Bluesky (https://linuxuserspace.show/bluesky) Feedback Scott J., Email Scott likes the Beelink with the Ryzen7 5800H (https://www.bee-link.com/products/beelink-ser5-max-5800h). Ben, Email Ben recommends Readeck (https://readeck.org/en/). Bruce, Email Bruce likes the Opera Browser (https://www.opera.com/). Rob Simmons, Email Rob found a great operating system for his old Chromebook, Lubuntu (https://lubuntu.me). Dan thinks that is good choice too. Like Leo, Rob prefers email too. And yes, he is a Simmons ;). Daily Driver, Email DD wants to promote a couple of hidden gem distros. Crunchbangplusplus (https://www.crunchbangplusplus.org/) Bunsenlabs (https://www.bunsenlabs.org/) https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/31/crunchbangversusbunsen_labs/ https://www.infoworld.com/article/2243143/the-death-of-crunchbang-linux.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CrunchBang_Linux J, Email J would like some notes, guides and configurations for Wireguard. Stay tuned to our blog (https://www.linuxuserspace.show/articles/). We will try to get something posted. 🔭Next Time🔭 Our first history episode of the season will be Cinnamon Desktop Environment (https://github.com/linuxmint/cinnamon). Come back for more Linux User Space in two weeks. Watch for our livestream announcements in between episodes. Stay tuned📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord and now Bluesky or whatever platform you prefer. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose MarshMan GrouchyM Pjol Tim Super User A.J. Advait Backshift6090 CubicleNate Eduardo S. FrozenGorilla Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Mick Nicholas Rotted Mood sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer

Coming up in this episode * Do you think Larry uses Firefox? * The Compiled History of Gentoo * and How we emerged from the year long journey 0:00 Cold Open 2:44 Mozilla Watch! 24:59 Gentoo - The Early Years 30:30 Gentoo - 1.0 And Beyond 35:20 Gentoo - 2007 to 2014 39:56 Gentoo - 2015 to the Present 45:37 The ENTIRE Gentoo Journey 1:20:49 Next Season? 1:24:52 Stinger The Video Version! (https://youtu.be/bsPV79bgU4c) https://youtu.be/bsPV79bgU4c Mozilla Watch Mozilla recently announced some planned improvements (https://blog.mozilla.org/en/mozilla/heres-what-were-working-on-in-firefox/). 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 The History of Gentoo Stampede Linux (https://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2937) When a system emerged, it was called Enoch (https://web.archive.org/web/20051126223839/http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/making-the-distro-p1.xml) Making a Distro part 2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20051118195918/http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/making-the-distro-p2.xml) Sustainability of the project had made its way to the forefront (https://web.archive.org/web/20051126225230/http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/making-the-distro-p3.xml). Gentoo website ~August 2001 (https://web.archive.org/web/20010924064822/http://gentoo.org:80/) March 3 2002 (https://web.archive.org/web/20020328041905/http://www.gentoo.org/) public facing movement was easily spotted. March 31 2002 (https://web.archive.org/web/20020604061411/http://gentoo.org/news/20020331-gentoo.html), 1.0 was finally released! The huge influx of new users it encouraged caused bandwidth issues for Gentoo (https://web.archive.org/web/20020604025327/http://lists.gentoo.org/pipermail/gentoo-announce/2002-May/000161.html). August of 2003, 1.4 was released (https://web.archive.org/web/20031207075713/http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20030811-newsletter.xml). Full installation could be completed in under an hour! (https://forums.gentoo.org/posting.php?mode=quote&p=110077&sid=55086929168089cbbb9dcdac1cec05ec) 2004, marked a change (https://web.archive.org/web/20031204134123/http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/index.xml) from the dot releases. 2004.0 released February 28, 2004 (https://web.archive.org/web/20040610161340/http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2004.0/releng/2004.0-press-release.txt). Daniel Robbins, the creator and founder, resigns from Gentoo (https://web.archive.org/web/20040501110844/http://www.gentoo.org/news/20040426-drobbins.xml). Despite that work continued. 2004.1 was released (https://web.archive.org/web/20141224104108/http://www.gentoo.org//proj/en/releng/release/2004.2/2004.2-press-release.txt) shortly after that news, dot 2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20040803014434/http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/release/2004.2/2004.2.xml) in July and dot 3 (https://web.archive.org/web/20101223035338/http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20041115-newsletter.xml) in November. September 2005, the first Gentoo Council was elected (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council). Daniel Robbins makes his glorious return (https://lwn.net/Articles/224082/) to the project! This lasted about 8 days before he resigned again (https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20070312#future). Other developers joined Robbins (https://www.linux.com/news/gentoo-attempts-deal-developer-conflicts/). Stability questions around the stability of the Gentoo Project (https://youtu.be/-ZSli7QW4rg) October 2009, a LiveDVD release (https://web.archive.org/web/20141222231552/https://www.gentoo.org/news/20091004-gentoo-10-years.xml). 11.0, released in 2011 (https://web.archive.org/web/20141222015352/http://www.gentoo.org/news/20110308-livedvd.xml). In 2015 A new website was announced (https://www.gentoo.org/news/2015/03/31/website-update.html#old-april-fools-day-announcement)! After the air was cleared, an actual NEW website (https://web.archive.org/web/20150502115556/https://www.gentoo.org/). In 2016, Gentoo Choice Edition (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:RelEng/LiveDVD/20160514). Then in July, Choice Edition Part Dos (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:RelEng/LiveDVD/20160704). word crimes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gv0H-vPoDc) In 2017, 17.0 in November (https://web.archive.org/web/20181222003035/https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2017-12-26-experimental-amd64-17-1-profiles.html) and an experimental 17.1 in December (https://web.archive.org/web/20181222003035/https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2017-12-26-experimental-amd64-17-1-profiles.html). An issue on Github (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Infrastructure/Incident_reports/2018-06-28_Github) in 2018. 2019 saw the 17.1 profiles finally stabilize (https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2019-06-05-amd64-17-1-profiles-are-now-stable.html). In 2021, the addition of 20.0 profiles were released (https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2021-06-20-riscv-20-profile-migration.html). Genchu (https://web.archive.org/web/20210401215506/https://www.gentoo.org/news/2021/04/01/genchu.html) Wallpaper1 (https://web.archive.org/web/20210401174243/https://dev.gentoo.org/~alicef/wallpaper_01.jpg) Wallpaper2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20210401222127/https://dev.gentoo.org/~alicef/wallpaper_02.jpg) Wallpaper3 (https://web.archive.org/web/20210401174337/https://dev.gentoo.org/~alicef/wallpaper_03.jpg) Wallpaper4 (https://web.archive.org/web/20210401174404/https://dev.gentoo.org/~alicef/wallpaper_04.jpg) Precompiled binaries for more packages were announced (https://www.gentoo.org/news/2023/12/29/Gentoo-binary.html?ref=news.itsfoss.com). March of 2024, profile version 23.0 (https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2024-03-22-new-23-profiles.html). Michał Górny notes (https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2024/05/30/the-dead-weight-of-packages-in-gentoo/) in his blog a few days before recording here that Gentoo has a problem. 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Coming up in this episode * We want to be the hosts with the most (compute) * Use Passkeys, (PASS!!!!) * ed, notes, the Linux Wars and AI in the feedback 0:00 Cold Open 1:43 Which Mini PC Do We Buy? 23:21 Time to Use Passkeys! 55:03 greenthumbs Feedback 58:00 Scott Feedback 1:01:32 Dave Feedback 1:08:29 n.m Feedback 1:14:05 kynize Feedback 1:25:53 Next Time 1:32:02 Stinger The video version! (https://youtu.be/C76WdhM2_kM) https://youtu.be/C76WdhM2_kM 🤏Micro Mini Compute Machines💻 Can we expand our server farm with one of these? (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Beelink/page/E76F7A4A-070E-428C-9129-832B18C1493F) Or, maybe one of the higher end units is a nice recording system? Quiet is the name of the game for that. What else is there that you recommend? 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 🔑Passkeys🔐 Google Overview of Passkeys (https://developers.google.com/identity/passkeys) What are Passkeys? - Tom's Guide (https://www.tomsguide.com/news/what-are-passkeys) Passkeys: What They Are and Why You Need Them ASAP - PCMag (https://www.pcmag.com/explainers/passwordless-authentication-what-it-is-and-why-you-need-it-asap) FIDO Alliance - Passkeys (https://fidoalliance.org/passkeys/) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, [email protected] OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) 📯Reverb Focus📢 Greenthumbs Commented on our E.D. History video (https://youtu.be/yUCuzkKGHos). :heart: Scott via Email If you read the directions 😉 (https://www.qownnotes.org/getting-started/qownnotesapi.html), they tell you the API doesn't handle the sync. You have to sync your folders with the Nextcloud client. Dave from Discord How could one share a Passkey with a team? Dan thinks Bitwarden (https://bitwarden.com/help/storing-passkeys/) might be the answer. n.m on the Year of The Linux Desktop Maybe? Most importantly, it should be the Year of Linux for you. The Livestream playback now has timestamps! (https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkyVxGRY9XYDGw82_Sg8Z9HL_X4fI9_r1) kynize wants to know if AI will make the desktop faster It seems unlikely that AI will use less resources. With dedicated hardware we might not notice (https://www.techradar.com/computing/cpu/what-is-an-npu). It does aim to make the user experience better though. 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to explore the history of Gentoo (https://www.gentoo.org/) in our season finale. What is in store for next season? Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose Tim GrouchyM Pjol Super User A.J. Advait CubicleNate Eduardo S. Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Nick sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer Tobias

Coming up in this episode * Does it do Passkeys tho? * So What Happened to Xz anyway? * How do we fix the internet? The Video Version (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3bN3PRmHJY) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3bN3PRmHJY Timestamps 0:00 Cold Open 1:36 Amazingly Self-Hosted 34:13 The History of Xz and the Hack*! 49:58 How to Fix Open Source 1:15:56 Next Time 1:20:42 Stinger 💻Self Hosting and Passkeys🔑 Audiobookshelf (https://www.audiobookshelf.org/) Immich (https://immich.app/) Tailscale (https://tailscale.com/) What are Passkeys - Tom's Guide (https://www.tomsguide.com/news/what-are-passkeys) Passkeys - FIDO Alliance (https://fidoalliance.org/passkeys/) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 📖The History of XZ🦜 LZMA (https://web.archive.org/web/20121109182343/http://sourceforge.net/projects/sevenzip/forums/forum/45797/topic/1025556) Andrey Markov (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markov_chain) LZ77 and LZ78 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LZ77_and_LZ78) 7zip history (https://7-zip.org/history.txt) Slackels (https://web.archive.org/web/20060202151612/https://tukaani.org/) LZMA in the form of the GCC compiled LZMA SDK (https://web.archive.org/web/20060213143853/http://tukaani.org/lzma/history) Tukanni Linux Project was officially gone (https://web.archive.org/web/20071011030325/http://tukaani.org/) LZMA Utils was left behind (https://web.archive.org/web/20090830051503/http://tukaani.org:80/xz) in favor of the similarly LZMA-backed Xz Utils. version 5.0 (https://web.archive.org/web/20101201065849/http://tukaani.org/xz/) is the transition from LZMA to XZ. Some distributions would eventually migrate to using Z Standard compression, including Arch (https://archlinux.org/news/now-using-zstandard-instead-of-xz-for-package-compression/) in 2019 and Fedora (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Switch_RPMs_to_zstd_compression) and Ubuntu would make the switch in 2020. A new face, Jigar Kumar, shows up (https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00565.html). January 7th, 2023, Jia Tan was finally able to merge their own commits (https://github.com/tukaani-project/xz/pull/7) to Xz on Github. Jia tries to convince (https://github.com/google/oss-fuzz/pull/10667) the OSS-Fuzz team to accept a patch that disabled Indrect Function. Adding the test files (https://git.tukaani.org/?p=xz.git;a=commitdiff;h=cf44e4b7f5dfdbf8c78aef377c10f71e274f63c0) which weren't test files at all. Andres Freund's Mastodon post (https://mastodon.social/@AndresFreundTec/112180083704606941) On April 2nd, 2024, Collin adds a page to his tukaani.org (https://tukaani.org/xz-backdoor/) domain. 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, [email protected] OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) ⚒️How To Fix Open Source🛠️ Heartbleed (https://heartbleed.com/) I'm not a supplier (https://www.softwaremaxims.com/blog/not-a-supplier) XKCD 2347 (https://xkcd.com/2347/) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to explore your feedback and some other topics. Our final history episode of the season will be Gentoo (https://www.gentoo.org/). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Visaggio & Co Co-Producer --verbose Tim GrouchyM Super User A.J. Advait CubicleNate Eduardo S. Hausken Jeff3ix Jefferson Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Nick pjol sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer Tobias

Coming up in this episode * We put a hat on AI * The SecureBlue/ublue thing * The UNIX Wars part deux 0:00 Cold Open 1:49 Artificial Fedora 28:35 The ImmutaBlues 54:01 Feedback 55:20 Tane on Notes and Unix 59:28 Ian on Unix 1:02:33 Chris on Notes and Sync 1:10:22 A Quick Release Update 1:14:41 Next Time 1:18:03 Stinger The Video Version! (https://youtu.be/JdfWd_-BhgU) https://youtu.be/JdfWd_-BhgU Support us here! (https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace) https://www.patreon.com/linuxuserspace AI dons a hat 🤖🎩 Matthew Miller on AI in Fedora (https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/strategy-2028-april-2024-update/) 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 Course correction on Secureblue We messed up but RoyalOughtness (https://github.com/qoijjj), the creator of Secureblue, set us straight. Atomic Fedora is the start of the pipeline: (https://universal-blue.discourse.group/t/how-to-rebase-to-universal-blues-base-images/868) xkbcat (https://github.com/anko/xkbcat) 📣More Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, [email protected] OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) Reverb Focus Tane via Email Tane uses Nextcloud Notes (https://apps.nextcloud.com/apps/notes) Also Iotas (https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/iotas) Unix Wars (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_wars) The terms of the Open Group (Open Group https://web.archive.org/web/20240205220954/https://unix.org/what_is_unix/single_unix_specification.html) Current Open Group members (https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/) Ian via email BSD, AIX, HP-UX and similar are all as UNIX as you can get these days. They started out as licensed UNIX Operating Systems with a direct IP license from AT&T and passed whatever requirements AT&T had at the time. Chris via email Obsidian (https://obsidian.md/) is not FOSS. Logseq (https://logseq.com/) is overwhelming at first but good now. 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch these and other great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) 🔭Next Time🔭 We plan to explore and provide the history of XZ Utils (https://github.com/tukaani-project/xz). Come back in two weeks for more Linux User Space Stay tuned 📡 and interact with us on Lemmy, Twitter, Mastodon, Telegram, Matrix, Discord whatever. Give us your suggestions on our subreddit r/LinuxUserSpace Join the conversation. Talk to us, and give us more ideas. All the links in the show notes and on linuxuserspace.show. We would like to acknowledge 🤩 our top patrons. Thank you 🙏 for your support! Producer Bruno Dave John Johnny Co-Producer Tim GrouchyM Super User A.J. Advait CubicleNate Eduardo S. Hausken Jeff3ix Jill and Steve Larry LiNuXsys666 Livet Musical Coder Nicholas Nick pjol sleepyeyesvince The Saigoneer Tobias

Coming up in this episode * Themes Are More Global Than You Think * Kdenlive Does Some Layering * The History of LXDE * To Qt, or not to Qt? * Then, we call an audible 0:00 Cold Open 2:17 Theme of the Crop 16:22 The Lost Edit 28:11 The History of LXDE 55:51 How'd LXQt and LXDE Go? 1:24:28 Next Time 1:31:13 Stinger The Video Version https://youtu.be/Y8_rMTmnIXc 🔥Warm Up🔥 - AI on the Linux Desktop KDE's Attack Surface? Hackaday coverage (https://hackaday.com/2024/03/25/user-beware-the-fine-line-between-content-and-code/) The Reddit Post (https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/1bixmbx/do_not_install_global_themes_some_wipe_out_all/) Kdenlive gave Leo a hard time 24.02.0 (https://kdenlive.org/en/2024/03/kdenlive-24-02-0-released/) was hot off the press and Leo couldn't resist. Thankfully 24.02.1 (https://kdenlive.org/en/2024/03/kdenlive-24-02-1-released/) followed to hopefully resolve the issues. 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 The History of LXDE (and some LXQt) The LXDE mailing list goes back to 2008 (https://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/lxde-list/) Ubuntu Lite (https://web.archive.org/web/20071213180659/http://ubuntulite.https://web.archive.org/web/20090126190042/http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5187661383.htmltuxfamily.org/?q=node/5) later known as U-lite commited (https://web.archive.org/web/20071213180659/http://ubuntulite.tuxfamily.org/?q=node/5) to using LXDE. DesktopLinux.com coverage (https://web.archive.org/web/20090207075132/http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS7428727466.html) Elemental Linux, MoonOS and WattOS followed with a commitment (https://web.archive.org/web/20120427050611/http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu) A PCManFM review from 2008 (https://web.archive.org/web/20220119114409/https://vivapinkfloyd.blogspot.com/2008/07/pcman-file-manager-045-review.html) The blog appears (https://blog.lxde.org/page/27/) December 2008 status update (https://blog.lxde.org/2008/12/10/recent-status-of-lxde/) Sidux adds an unofficial LXDE flavor (https://web.archive.org/web/20080929014208/http://cap.gediam.de/index-en.htm) Mandriva adds LXDE (https://web.archive.org/web/20081005023344/http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Tour#LXDE) Fedora too (https://blog.lxde.org/2008/11/13/fedora-10-with-lxde/) LXDE Translation project (https://blog.lxde.org/2008/12/14/lxde-translation-project/) PCMan asks the community for feedback (https://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?t=456) FOSDEM 2009 (https://www.slideshare.net/mariobehling/lxde-presentation-at-fosdem-2009?type=presentation) Lubuntu enters the chat (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/02/05/lubuntu-lxde-meet-up-with-mark-shuttleworth-in-berlin) LXDE on android phones (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/02/23/lxde-running-on-android-phones/) LXDE on Solaris (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/03/21/lxde-on-opensolaris/) LXDE in Centos (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/05/04/lxde-in-centos/) PCLXDE (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/08/06/pclxde/) First Lubuntu test ISO (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/08/31/first-lubuntu-test-iso-available/) Fedora success (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/12/15/huge-success-of-the-fedora-12-lxde-spin/) OpenSUSE status update (https://blog.lxde.org/2010/03/01/opensuse-lxde-development-status/) Refactor time (https://blog.lxde.org/2010/02/21/pcmanfm-0-9-alpha-is-released/) Rewrite, and make it faster (https://blog.lxde.org/2010/03/19/the-first-beta-release-of-new-pcmanfmlibfm/) Movable desktop icons (https://blog.lxde.org/2010/10/05/desktop-icons-of-pcmanfm-becomes-movable/) LXDE becomes an available Debian desktop (https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopInLenny) A Qt port begins (https://blog.lxde.org/2013/02/19/pcmanfm-file-manager-is-ported-to-qt/) Diverse paths (https://blog.lxde.org/2013/03/26/pcmanfm-qt-0-1-0-released/) PCMan develops a "Guide for Migrating from Gtk+ to Qt" (https://blog.lxde.org/2013/04/25/a-guide-for-porting-gtk-applications-to-qt/) LXDE-QT preview (https://blog.lxde.org/2013/07/03/lxde-qt-preview/) Razor-Qt (https://www.pcworld.com/article/461673/five-reasons-to-try-the-new-razor-qt-linux-desktop.html) PCMan had this to say about Razor-Qt (https://groups.google.com/g/razor-qt/c/aRfqM_W_ODQ) A merger of LXDE-Qt and Razor-Qt (https://blog.lxde.org/?p=1046) LXDE-Qt is not bloated (https://blog.lxde.org/2013/07/05/no-lxde-qt-is-not-bloated/) PCManFM-Qt was in a usable state (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/03/23/pcmanfm-qt-reaches-a-quite-usable-state/) LXQt alpha is announced (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/04/27/the-first-alpha-release-of-lxde-qt-or-lxqt-is-in-preparation/) shortly after it was announced (https://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/message/32310545/). Initial FreeBSD support (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/05/09/lxqt-got-initial-freebsd-support/) for LXQt Comparing Numbers (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/05/09/some-numbers-about-lxqt-for-those-who-are-curious/) LXQt got “full” Qt5 support (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/06/29/lxqt-now-has-full-qt5-support/) LXQt 0.8 released (https://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/message/32927295/) LXDE is still going (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/11/18/status-update-for-lxde/) We say goodbye (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/11/21/in-memory-of-razor-qt/) to Razor-qt The 0.9 release was caught on snags (https://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/message/33285634/) but eventually released (https://web.archive.org/web/20160113173328/http://lxqt.org/release/2015/02/08/release-0-9-0/) LXQt 0.10 followed (https://web.archive.org/web/20160112231402/https://lxqt.org/release/2015/11/02/release-0-10-0/) LXQt 0.11 released (https://web.archive.org/web/20161121064047/http://lxqt.org/release/2016/09/24/lxqt-011-et-al/) More stats (https://blog.lxde.org/2016/10/04/benchmark-memory-usage-lxqt-desktop-environment-vs-xfce/) LXQt 0.12.0 (https://web.archive.org/web/20171030182926/http://lxqt.org/release/2017/10/21/lxqt-0120/) LXQt 0.13.0 (https://web.archive.org/web/20190522094012/https://lxqt.org/release/2018/05/21/lxqt-0130/) The end for GTK 2 (https://blog.gtk.org/2020/12/16/gtk-4-0/) Debian, at the time, set the death date (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2018/11/msg00570.html) GTK 3 would end up being the target for LXDE (https://archlinux.org/groups/x86_64/lxde-gtk3/) LXQt 0.17 (https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/releases/tag/0.17.0) LXQt 1.0.0 was released! (https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/releases/tag/1.0.0) LXDE diehards are still keeping things alive for LXDE (https://github.com/lxde) LXQt 2.0 is planned to release in the usual April slot (https://lxqt-project.org/blog/2024/02/15/qt-6-and-wayland/) Speaking of Wayland (https://lxqt-project.org/blog/2024/04/09/wayland_faq/) Quick LXQt History (https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/wiki/History) More 📣Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, [email protected] OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch all the great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord or Lemmy. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Next Time Some topics and feedback. 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