
Who Will Dominate the AI Era? I AI CEO Podcast I Jason Michael Perry
AI is moving fast — but the CEOs who win won't just "use tools." They'll build AI into the way the business operates.
In this episode of The AI CEO Podcast, Seema Alexander sits down with Jason Michael Perry, CEO of Perry Labs and author of The AI Evolution, to break down what's actually happening in the AI shift — from adoption and data readiness to agents, AGI, and why AI-native companies will outpace everyone else.
If you're a CEO, founder, or operator asking: "How do we innovate when everything changes every 6 months?" — this is the conversation.
What you'll learn in this episode
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Why AI is both familiar (like past tech shifts) and more transformational than anything before
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How smaller teams + AI tools can outproduce larger teams ("vibe teaming")
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The real difference between automation, agents, and autonomy
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Jason's practical framework for AGI: chat → reasoning → agents → innovators → operators
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Why exec adoption matters (and how to start, even if it's "basic")
⏱️ Chapters / Timestamps
00:00 – "AI-native companies will win" (cold open)
00:58 – Show intro: The AI CEO Podcast
01:53 – Meet Jason Michael Perry (Perry Labs) + why his POV matters
02:36 – CEO question: "How do we innovate when AI changes every 6 months?"
03:03 – "Tech has always changed" (context + historical lens)
04:12 – Is AI the same old thing… or bigger than everything?
28:17 – Vibe teaming + modern build tools (Cursor/Replit/Lovable etc.)
29:17 – Smaller team + AI tools = outsized output
50:45 – What CEOs should do now: platform + rollout + connect to data
51:04 – Jason's 5-layer AGI framework (chat → reasoning → agents…)
52:42 – Agents vs RPA + "human in the loop" reality
53:32 – Innovators + Operators (AI that invents + orchestrates)
55:53 – Why data systems + orchestration decide who wins
01:20:40 – Adoption advice: execs must use AI to lead adoption
01:21:36 – Simple use case to start: recipes (and why it matters)
01:23:28 – Where to find Jason (website + newsletter + book)
01:24:34 – Closing
👇 Where to Find Jason Michael Perry
Website: jasonandperry.com (newsletter, book, events)
👇 Where to Find Seema Alexander / Disruptive AI
Instagram: @seemaalexander
LinkedIn: Seema Alexander
Disruptive AI: getdisruptive.ai
The AI CEO Podcast:
Instagram: @theaiceopodcast
LinkedIn: The AI CEO Podcast
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