Data Center Real Estate: Cap Rates, Costs, and Demand | Ermengarde Jabir, Moody's

Data center demand is booming, but the buildings are going obsolete faster than they can fill up. Michael Bull, CCIM digs into the numbers with Ermengarde Jabir, PhD, Director of Economic Research at Moody's Analytics. The US data center market is now 31 to 32 gigawatts of power, and power, not square footage, is the right way to size it. Ermengarde explains why a 50,000 square foot data center built 10 or 15 years ago might now need only 25,000 square feet to house the newer racks and servers, leaving half the building empty. She walks through the sector's cap rates, a competitive 4% to mid-5% range, the shrinking risk premium as the 10-year Treasury pushes past 4.6%, and who is actually building these now, from traditional developers to the big tech owner-operators alongside long-time REITs Digital Realty and Equinix. The conversation covers the data center types from co-location to hyperscale, why the shell is simple like an industrial warehouse but the interior build-out and cooling are where the cost lives, office-to-data-center conversions and the load-bearing floor test that makes or breaks them, the moratoriums and lost-tax-base math driving local approvals, and what the AI build-out really means for jobs. Ermengarde's bottom line on employment: not more or fewer jobs, but different jobs. In this episode: 00:00  Intro: The Data Center Debate 01:23  How Big Is the Market? 31 to 32 Gigawatts of Power 02:18  Why Power Beats Square Footage, and the Obsolescence Problem 03:53  Data Center Types, From Co-Location to Hyperscale 04:47  Who Is Building Now: Developers, REITs, and Big Tech 07:54  Hyperscale Build-Out and the Shift to Liquid Cooling 10:28  Data Center Cap Rates: 4% to Mid-5% and the Risk Premium 12:11  Office-to-Data-Center Conversions and the Load-Bearing Test 14:08  Moratoriums, Zoning, and the Local Tax-Base Math 16:03  The Future: Why Exponential Growth Cannot Last 19:11  Data Centers and Jobs: Construction vs Permanent 22:43  AI and Employment: The 4.1% Headline and What It Hides 25:35  Office-Using Employment: Peak or Another Cycle? 27:03  Final Takeaway: Different Jobs, Not Fewer Connect with Ermengarde Jabir, PhD: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ermengarde-jabir-phd-3114829a/ Moody's Analytics Website: https://www.moodysanalytics.com Connect with Michael Bull & The Show: Michael Bull, CCIM Bull Realty, Inc https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbull/ For more commercial real estate market data, sector forecasts, and video episodes, visit CREshow.com. America's Commercial Real Estate Show is brought to you by our proud sponsors. TCN Worldwide: Commercial real estate property management, leasing, and sales solutions across the US and globally. Learn more: https://www.tcnworldwide.com Build Out: The ultimate product suite for commercial real estate brokerage firms looking to streamline their business. Learn more: https://www.buildout.com Bull Realty: Regional commercial real estate brokerage services headquartered in Atlanta, delivering market intel and strategies. Learn more: https://www.bullrealty.com Commercial Agent Success Strategies: Twenty-one cloud accessed commercial broker training videos with slide deck action notes. Learn more at https://www.commercialagentsuccess.com/ #DataCenters #CommercialRealEstate #CRE #DataCenterRealEstate #AI #CapRates #Hyperscale #AdaptiveReuse #RealEstateInvesting #CREForecast #MoodysAnalytics #MichaelBull

Senior housing is posting record absorption while new supply sits at Great Financial Crisis lows. Michael Bull, CCIM talks with Arick Morton, Chief Executive Officer of NIC MAP, about what that gap means for owners, investors, and developers. Arick walks through the numbers behind the demand story: median occupancy back near 93%, more than 30 of the top 100 metros running a 95% median, transaction volume touching all-time highs, and price per unit up meaningfully. Cap rates have compressed into the 6 handles for stabilized Class A and B product in good markets, with 5 handles trading in some cases. The supply side is the harder half. Labor costs climbed 30% to 35% between 2021 and early 2023, and because buildings sat around 80% full, almost none of it was passed through to rents. Occupancy has healed, margins have not fully caught up, and the unlevered yield on cost math still comes up short in many markets. Arick lays out what has to change before a sustained construction cycle starts. Then the opportunity set. The 80 plus population grows roughly 35% by 2030 and 65% to 70% by 2035, which means the industry needs to deliver about twice as many units as it has ever built, every year, for the next 20 years. Arick makes the case that expanding existing communities is the fastest pressure relief valve available, since roughly two thirds of the stock is 20 to 25 years old and much of it sits on land bought before land got expensive. He also covers third party management, regional density in portfolio construction, and where AI actually helps an operator. In this episode: 00:00  Senior Housing Market Outlook 2026 01:46  Meet Arick Morton, CEO of NIC MAP 02:14  Record Absorption and Capital Rotating In 03:45  Why Passive Capital Needs an Operating Partner 04:24  New Supply at Great Financial Crisis Lows 06:33  Labor Costs Up 30% to 35% and the Margin Gap 07:57  Occupancy: 93% Median, 95% in 30 Plus Metros 08:42  Active Adult, IL, Assisted Living, Memory Care, Skilled Nursing 10:45  Cap Rates: 6 Handles, and 5s for the Best Product 12:17  Transaction Volume at All-Time Highs and the NCREIF Index 13:46  Owner or Operator: The Third Party Management Question 15:42  Twice as Many Units, Every Year, for 20 Years 17:56  The Expansion Play: Building on Land You Already Own 20:02  AI, Data, and Regional Density for Operators 22:13  Where to Find NIC MAP Research 23:32  Final Takeaway Connect with Arick Morton: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arickmorton/ NIC MAP Website: https://www.nicmap.com Connect with Michael Bull & The Show: Michael Bull, CCIM Bull Realty, Inc https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbull/ For more commercial real estate market data, sector forecasts, and video episodes, visit CREshow.com. America's Commercial Real Estate Show is brought to you by our proud sponsors. TCN Worldwide: Commercial real estate property management, leasing, and sales solutions across the US and globally. Learn more: https://www.tcnworldwide.com Build Out: The ultimate product suite for commercial real estate brokerage firms looking to streamline their business. Learn more: https://www.buildout.com Bull Realty: Southeast U.S. commercial real estate brokerage services headquartered in Atlanta, delivering market intel and strategies. Learn more: https://www.bullrealty.com Commercial Agent Success Strategies: Twenty-one cloud accessed commercial broker training videos with slide deck action notes. Learn more at https://www.commercialagentsuccess.com/ #SeniorHousing #SeniorHousingInvestment #CommercialRealEstate #AssistedLiving #MemoryCare #IndependentLiving #SkilledNursing #CapRates #CREInvesting #RealEstateInvesting #NICMAP #CREShow

Industrial real estate demand is rebounding in 2026 after the slowest first half in eight years. Michael Bull, CCIM gets the latest from Marc Selvitelli, President and CEO of the Commercial Real Estate Development Association (CREDA, the organization known for decades as NAIOP). Only 75 million square feet of industrial space delivered in the first half of 2026, the lowest in eight years. Yet 595 million square feet are now under construction, up 5% year over year, with vacancy essentially flat at 6.9%. Marc explains why the sector is normalizing toward historical norms instead of repeating the post-pandemic rocket ship, and why consumer spending and e-commerce still support the trend. One caveat sits under the numbers: the forecast assumes the conflict with Iran winds down in the second half of the year. The conversation also covers the CREDA sentiment survey (slow, steady, and quietly positive as capital returns), the return to office at 3.4 days a week, why power availability is now the single biggest constraint on new development, and the explosion in data centers, from 2% of members three years ago to 12% today. Marc and Michael dig into industrial outdoor storage (under 2% vacancy nationwide), medical office, office-to-residential conversions, senior housing technology, and what AI really does and does not change for brokerage. In this episode: 00:00  Intro: NAIOP Is Now CREDA 00:56  Why NAIOP Rebranded to the CRE Development Association 02:29  Industrial Demand Forecast: Slowest First Half in 8 Years 04:22  The Iran Conflict Assumption in the Forecast 05:10  595M SF Under Construction as Development Turns Up 06:19  Industrial Investment and Capital Coming Back 07:21  CREDA Sentiment Survey: Slow and Steady, Trending Positive 08:09  Multifamily Uncertainty and Office Finding Its Footing 09:44  Return to Office: 3.4 Days a Week, AI Firms at Five 10:34  Construction, Labor, and Power: The Biggest Constraint 12:12  Data Centers: From 2% of Members to 12% 14:39  Industrial Outdoor Storage: Under 2% Vacancy Nationwide 15:42  End-of-Year Opportunities: IOS, Medical Office, Conversions 17:23  A 185,000 SF Tower at 30%: The Office Condo Play 18:45  Senior Housing Demand and the Technology Gap 21:07  AI, Brokerage, and Why Relationships Still Win 25:24  Final Takeaway Connect with Marc Selvitelli, CAE: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marc-selvitelli-cae-7b6a991 CREDA Website: https://www.credaglobal.org Connect with Michael Bull & The Show: Michael Bull, CCIM Bull Realty, Inc https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbull/ For more commercial real estate market data, sector forecasts, and video episodes, visit CREshow.com. America's Commercial Real Estate Show is brought to you by our proud sponsors. TCN Worldwide: Commercial real estate property management, leasing, and sales solutions across the US and globally. Learn more: https://www.tcnworldwide.com Build Out: The ultimate product suite for commercial real estate brokerage firms looking to streamline their business. Learn more: https://www.buildout.com Bull Realty: Regional commercial real estate brokerage services headquartered in Atlanta, delivering market intel and strategies. Learn more: https://www.bullrealty.com Commercial Agent Success Strategies: Twenty-one cloud accessed commercial broker training videos with slide deck action notes. Learn more at https://www.commercialagentsuccess.com/ #CommercialRealEstate #CRE #IndustrialRealEstate #NAIOP #CREDA #DataCenters #IndustrialOutdoorStorage #OfficeMarket #CREForecast #RealEstateInvesting #MedicalOffice #MichaelBull

Houston delivered 6,400 apartment units in Q1 while Class B absorption came in at negative 750. Michael Bull, CCIM and developer Victor Menasce break down what that means for apartment investors and developers in 2026. Victor Menasce, Senior Partner at Y Street Capital, has developed and owned property through multiple recessions and cycles. He explains why the traditional Class B value-add playbook of adding washers and dryers and pushing rents $50 a month is running out of room, how Class A concessions are pulling renters up and out of older product, and why lease surfing stretches stabilization timelines even in brand new buildings. The conversation also covers entitlement risk and the case for building by right, how opposition groups now organize on social media within weeks and use AI to research objections, the Austin multifamily oversupply and how long that absorption may take, and where the supply and demand mismatch actually sits today. Victor also makes the case for active adult housing as an underbuilt segment between market rate apartments and independent living, with resident tenure averaging around nine years. Plus construction cost trends, factory built delivery, and an insurance renewal that went from $58,000 to a $350,000 quote in a single year. In this episode: 00:00  Development Through CRE Cycles With Victor Menasce 01:28  Your Investment Thesis Ages Before the Project Delivers 02:13  Three Legs of the Stool: Capital Cost, Rents, Construction 02:47  Entitlement Risk and the Case for Building By Right 04:22  Local Counsel, Relationships, and Approval Timelines 05:04  Organized Opposition: Social Media Groups and AI Research 07:00  New Supply: Austin Oversupply and Rent Concessions 08:34  Lease Surfing and When Apartments Become a Commodity 11:19  Active Adult: The Gap Below Independent Living 12:11  Office Conversions and Mixed Use Done Right 13:35  Active Adult Demographics: 70% Singles, 9 Year Tenure 15:00  Construction Costs 2026: Labor, Trades, Supply Chain 16:03  Factory Built Delivery and Hambro Joist Time Savings 16:52  Insurance Shock: $58K Premium to a $350K Renewal Quote 18:40  Houston Q1 Data: Class B Squeezed From Above and Below 20:16  Closing Thoughts and Sponsors Connect with Victor Menasce: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vmenasce/ Y Street Capital Website: https://ystreetcapital.com Connect with Michael Bull & The Show: Michael Bull, CCIM Bull Realty, Inc https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbull/ For more commercial real estate market data, sector forecasts, and video episodes, visit CREshow.com. America's Commercial Real Estate Show is brought to you by our proud sponsors. TCN Worldwide: Commercial real estate property management, leasing, and sales solutions across the US and globally. Learn more: https://www.tcnworldwide.com Build Out: The ultimate product suite for commercial real estate brokerage firms looking to streamline their business. Learn more: https://www.buildout.com Bull Realty: Regional commercial real estate brokerage services headquartered in Atlanta, delivering market intel and strategies. Learn more: https://www.bullrealty.com Commercial Agent Success Strategies: Twenty-one cloud accessed commercial broker training videos with slide deck action notes. Learn more at https://www.commercialagentsuccess.com/ #CommercialRealEstate #Multifamily #ApartmentInvesting #RealEstateDevelopment #ValueAdd #ActiveAdult #HousingSupply #ConstructionCosts #RealEstateInvesting #CRE #Houston #CREshow

Six years into the expansion, the commercial real estate cycle still looks early. Michael Bull, CCIM covers 2026 rates, supply, and office with BGO Chief Economist Ryan Severino, CFA. Ryan Severino, CFA, Chief Economist and Head of Research for the U.S. at BGO, explains why a cycle that is six years old still behaves like an early to mid cycle expansion. Debt sits at moderate levels, the labor market has room to run, and leverage has stayed disciplined. He sees runway left in the economy and in commercial real estate. The conversation covers where inflation and interest rates go from here, why the 10-year Treasury has trouble moving far off 4% on fundamentals alone, and how trade policy and the conflict in Iran are adding roughly 30 to 60 basis points to the long end of the curve. Severino also makes the case that today's rates only feel high because most people working in this industry have spent their entire careers in a market where the 10-year stayed below 5% for a quarter century. On the property side: the construction pipeline is the most benign on record relative to existing inventory, which means owners no longer need an outsized jump in demand to compress vacancy and restart rent growth. Severino explains why he is more constructive on office than most of the industry, drawing a direct comparison to how wrong the popular narrative on retail was for 15 years. Michael Bull adds a live example, a 17-story tower coming to market at $64 per square foot, below the cost of building out the space. The episode closes on what Severino calls a recovery out of order. In a normal cycle, capital markets recover first and space market fundamentals lag. This time fundamentals are recovering while elevated long-term rates hold the capital markets back. His view on the next 12 to 24 months: higher transaction volume, more attractive pricing, and a real estate return profile that compares well against a richly valued stock market. In this episode: 00:00  Where Are We in the CRE Cycle? What Inning Are We In? 01:08  Six Years In and Still Early Cycle: The Rain Delay Economy 03:17  Pandemic, Inflation, Trade War, Real War: A Fits and Starts Cycle 04:39  Inflation Resurgent: A Speed Bump, Not a Roadblock 06:37  The 10-Year Treasury: Why It Cannot Move Far Off 4% 07:58  A Quarter Century Below 5%: Today's Rates Are About Average 09:26  Michael's 17% Loan and Making Money at Higher Rates 10:28  Oil Prices and Iran: Why the U.S. Economy Shrugs Now 12:46  AI and Data Centers: Galactic Capital and Political Backlash 15:02  Record Low Construction: Why Supply No Longer Drives the Cycle 17:57  Office: The Contrarian Case and the Retail Playbook 20:07  A 17-Story Tower at $64 per Foot 20:42  Recovery Out of Order: Fundamentals First, Capital Markets Lagging 24:47  Relative Value: Real Estate Against a Richly Priced Stock Market 25:57  Final Takeaway: You Do Not Pay Today's Rate Forever Connect with Ryan Severino: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-severino-cfa-4409022/ BGO Website: https://www.bgo.com Connect with Michael Bull & The Show: Michael Bull, CCIM Bull Realty, Inc https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbull/ For more commercial real estate market data, sector forecasts, and video episodes, visit CREshow.com. America's Commercial Real Estate Show is brought to you by our proud sponsors. TCN Worldwide: Commercial real estate property management, leasing, and sales solutions across the US and globally. Learn more: https://www.tcnworldwide.com Build Out: The ultimate product suite for commercial real estate brokerage firms looking to streamline their business. Learn more: https://www.buildout.com Bull Realty: Regional commercial real estate brokerage services headquartered in Atlanta, delivering market intel and strategies. Learn more: https://www.bullrealty.com Commercial Agent Success Strategies: Twenty-one cloud accessed commercial broker training videos with slide deck action notes. Learn more at https://www.commercialagentsuccess.com/ #CommercialRealEstate #CRE #RealEstateInvesting #CommercialRealEstateForecast #InterestRates #OfficeMarket #DataCenters #CapRates #RealEstateCycle #CREInvesting #Treasury #MichaelBull

Apartment rents grew 1.5% over the past 90 days, the fastest pace since late 2022. RealPage Chief Economist Carl Whitaker joins Michael Bull, CCIM, to break down where the multifamily market stands at mid-year 2026. Carl walks through second quarter actuals and third quarter forecasts, and explains why the national average matters less than it ever has. Class A properties are posting growth rates on par with 2018 and 2019, Class B is finding its footing, and Class C has been left behind by a K-shaped economy. In Raleigh, Class C rents have now declined for 15 straight quarters. The conversation covers the supply pullback versus resilient demand, how the 21st Century ROAD to Housing Act paused the build to rent pipeline and why new market rate starts are already returning in markets like Raleigh Durham, and why build to rent complements conventional apartments instead of competing with them. Michael and Carl also dig into submarket dispersion, with Midtown, Buckhead, and Northeast Atlanta Class A rents up 2% to 3% year over year while the Atlanta metro average shows rents down 1.5% to 2%. They cover the cost side of the business, where taxes and insurance are finally cooling while marketing costs climb, and the effect of AI on rents and underwriting, with median rent to income now at its lowest level since 2020. Carl closes on the barbell shape of today's investment sales market and where he sees opportunity in second tier Southeast markets including Greenville Spartanburg, western North Carolina, and Chattanooga. Connect with Carl Whitaker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlwhitaker15/ RealPage Website: https://www.realpage.com Connect with Michael Bull & The Show: Michael Bull, CCIM Bull Realty, Inc https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbull/   Read More Here: https://www.bullrealty.com/intel/blog-posts/view/the-return-of-rent-growth-why-the-multifamily-recovery-is-splitting-by-class-and-submarket For more commercial real estate market data, sector forecasts, and video episodes, visit CREshow.com. America's Commercial Real Estate Show is brought to you by our proud sponsors. TCN Worldwide: Commercial real estate property management, leasing, and sales solutions across the US and globally. Learn more: https://www.tcnworldwide.com Build Out: The ultimate product suite for commercial real estate brokerage firms looking to streamline their business. Learn more: https://www.buildout.com Bull Realty: Regional commercial real estate brokerage services headquartered in Atlanta, delivering market intel and strategies. Learn more: https://www.bullrealty.com Commercial Agent Success Strategies: Twenty-one cloud accessed commercial broker training videos with slide deck action notes. Learn more at https://www.commercialagentsuccess.com/ #Multifamily #MultifamilyInvesting #ApartmentInvesting #CommercialRealEstate #RentGrowth #BuildToRent #RealEstateInvesting #ApartmentMarket #CapRates #RealPage #CREShow #MichaelBull

US office vacancy sits at 13.8% while rents rise and inventory actually shrinks. CoStar's Phil Mobley breaks down the two-tier office market at mid-2026.  Phil Mobley, National Director of Office Analytics at CoStar Group, joins Michael Bull, CCIM to explain why the office headlines and the office market have stopped matching. National vacancy peaked at 14.1% a year ago and now sits near 13.8%, with four consecutive quarters of positive absorption totaling roughly 20 million square feet. For perspective, that full year of demand would have been one decent quarter in 2018.  The supply side is where this cycle breaks from history. New construction starts are running about 5 million square feet per quarter, a generational low, and for the past two quarters CoStar's data shows outright supply contraction: more office space is being demolished or converted than delivered, which has never happened before.  Mobley also corrects the most common misconception about the office recovery. It is not simply Class A winning and Class B losing. Trophy assets, the top 5% of inventory, are performing strongly, and solid B and B-minus buildings serving price-sensitive tenants held up better than most people assume. The real occupancy damage landed on A-minus and B-plus product caught in the middle: not distinctive enough to compete with trophy space, too expensive to compete on price. Also covered: why AI has been an unambiguous demand tailwind so far and the venture-capital risk hiding inside it, why return-to-office gains raise foot traffic without raising space needs, how New York and Dallas preview where the rest of the country is heading, why lease sizes have run 15% below pre-pandemic levels for nearly three years, and the capital markets shift as institutions climb back from 10% to 15% of office deal volume to around 20%, buying buildings to keep them as office. Plus the point every landlord should sit with: the total vacancy number is not the relevant number. Competitive vacancy is, and a landlord without capital to fund tenant improvements does not really have leasable space. In this episode: 00:00 Is Office the Buy of the Decade? 01:19 The US Office Market: Smaller, but Recovering 02:22 Vacancy at 13.8% and Four Quarters of Positive Absorption 04:30 New Supply: Generationally Low and Now Contracting 06:02 Trophy vs. A-Minus: Where Occupancy Actually Collapsed 10:34 AI and Office Demand: A Tailwind With an Asterisk 14:13 Return to Office: Foot Traffic vs. Space Demand 16:40 Why New York Led, and How the Country Became Dallas 21:12 How Much Vacant Space Is Actually Leasable? 23:02 Tenant Improvement Capital and the Rise of Spec Suites 25:29 Lease Sizes Down 15% From Pre-Pandemic 27:01 Office Investment Sales: Institutions Are Buying Again 30:33 User Buyers, Two World Trade, and Occupier-Driven Construction 32:48 Forecast: Vacancy, Rents, and the Next 6 to 12 Months 34:36 Capital Is King: Corporations Building Their Own Space   Connect with Phil Mobley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phil-mobley/ CoStar Group Website: https://www.costar.com   Connect with Michael Bull & The Show: Michael Bull, CCIM Bull Realty, Inc https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbull/ For more commercial real estate market data, sector forecasts, and video episodes, visit CREshow.com.   America's Commercial Real Estate Show is brought to you by our proud sponsors. TCN Worldwide: Commercial real estate property management, leasing, and sales solutions across the US and globally. Learn more: https://www.tcnworldwide.com Build Out: The ultimate product suite for commercial real estate brokerage firms looking to streamline their business. Learn more: https://www.buildout.com Bull Realty: Regional commercial real estate brokerage services headquartered in Atlanta, delivering market intel and strategies. Learn more: https://www.bullrealty.com Commercial Agent Success Strategies: Twenty-one cloud accessed commercial broker training videos with slide deck action notes. Learn more at https://www.commercialagentsuccess.com/ #CRE #CommercialRealEstate #OfficeMarket #OfficeSpace #RealEstateInvesting #CREForecast #OfficeVacancy #CoStar #TenantRepresentation #BullRealty

As commercial real estate navigates the mid-year of 2026, the primary point of uncertainty has officially shifted from the capital markets to the realities of underlying tenant demand. In this episode, host Michael Bull is joined by Xander Snyder, CRE Economist with First American, to break down their newly published mid-year market forecast. While a flat yield curve and geopolitical tensions in Iran keep interest rate cuts firmly off the table for the remainder of the year, Xander delivers a highly optimistic, contrarian outlook for early-cycle investors. As the industry enters the early innings of a fresh 10-to-20-year expansionary cycle, the playbook has changed: structural valuation adjustments have re-opened sales volumes, and the path to outsized returns now rests entirely on asset-level expense management and protecting the downside. Key Topics Covered in This Episode: The Mid-Year Macro Overview: Xander explains why consumer debt, falling real wages, and targeted corporate AI spend mean demand metrics—rather than Fed interest rate adjustments—will define the second half of 2026. The Illusion of the Labor Market: Squaring a 4.3% headline unemployment rate with a challenging job search environment, and how low employee turnover is impacting commercial space requirements. Yield Curve Realities & The 10-Year Treasury: Navigating a flat, non-inverted yield curve and why historical data implies a 10-year Treasury path heading toward 5% to 6%, even without future Fed rate hikes. Office Bifurcation & Traded Volume: How severe price corrections and near-zero new supply have allowed suburban office underwriting to work, driving a 40% to 50% spike in Q1 sales and refinancing activity. The Defensive Floor Under Retail: Why a 15-year supply freeze paired with resilient consumer spending keeps brick-and-mortar retail exceptionally strong, despite isolated Class B and C mall closures. Multifamily Capital Structure Distresses: Managing the wave of 2021-2022 floating-rate maturities, prohibitively expensive interest rate caps, and why lender takebacks are a story of capital right-sizing rather than structural demand destruction. Industrial Stabilization by Asset Size: Why large-scale logistics spaces face short-term trade policy vacancies while localized industrial footprints under 50,000 square feet maintain tight 3% to 4% vacancy rates. The Rare Property Insurance Expense Win: A deep dive into the temporary 10% to 15% drop in property insurance premiums driven by excess 2025 reinsurance capital, and how operators must capture these line-item savings to boost NOI while rents grow modestly. Whether you are an institutional lender evaluating foreclosure strategies, a private syndicator structuring new performs, or a corporate user tracking localized Southeast growth metrics, this episode offers an elite framework for investing at the baseline of the next real estate cycle.   Connect with Xander: https://www.firstam.com/economics/xander-snyder/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/xander-snyder-econ/   Connect with Michael Bull & The Show: Michael Bull, CCIM Bull Realty, Inc https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbull/   For more commercial real estate market data, sector forecasts, and video episodes, visit CREshow.com.   America’s Commercial Real Estate Show is brought to you by our proud sponsors. TCN Worldwide: Commercial real estate property management, leasing, and sales solutions across the US and globally. Learn more: https://www.tcnworldwide.com Build Out: The ultimate product suite for commercial real estate brokerage firms looking to streamline their business. Learn more: https://www.buildout.com   Bull Realty: Regional commercial real estate brokerage services headquartered in Atlanta, delivering market intel and strategies.Learn more: https://www.bullrealty.com Commercial Agent Success Strategies: Twenty-one cloud accessed commercial broker training videos with slide deck action notes. Learn more at https://www.commercialagentsuccess.com/      

How are Real Estate Investment Trusts (REITs) navigating economic shifts and outperforming the broader equity market in 2026? In this episode of America's Commercial Real Estate Show, host Michael Bull sits down with Edward Pierzak, Senior Vice President of Research at Nareit, to break down the operational performance, balance sheet metrics, and future outlook for the REIT sector. Despite facing macroeconomic shocks like geopolitical conflicts and inflation worries, REITs have maintained incredible momentum throughout the first half of the year. Edward provides an insider look into sector-specific trends—explaining why lodging, resorts, and data centers are leading the pack in 2026 after a turbulent 2025, and how well-amenitized, well-located properties are driving a performance bifurcation within the office sector. Key Topics Covered We explore how REITs are keeping their momentum and outpacing broad equity markets in 2026. Edward shares a deep dive into specific sectors, detailing the rebound of data centers, the rise of lodging and senior housing, and the nuanced truth behind the "office is dead" headlines. We also take a look into Nareit's REIT Industry Tracker, detailing how high occupancy rates, solid FFO, and fixed-rate unsecured debt are giving public REITs a competitive advantage. Additionally, we discuss the lingering public-private divergence, examining why valuations are misaligned and what this dislocation means for savvy institutional and retail investors. Finally, we analyze the recent wave of consolidation, REIT-to-REIT mergers, and the growth of internal investment management platforms. "REITs have had a great start of the year... we still think that there's definitely more fuel in the tank." — Edward Pierzak Whether you are looking to invest, advise, or track institutional quality real estate trends, this episode delivers the vital market intelligence you need to finish 2026 strong.   Connect with Edward Pierzak: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edwardfpierzak Nareit Website: https://www.reit.com/   Connect with Michael Bull & The Show: Michael Bull, CCIM Bull Realty, Inc https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbull/   For more commercial real estate market data, sector forecasts, and video episodes, visit CREshow.com.   America’s Commercial Real Estate Show is brought to you by our proud sponsors. TCN Worldwide: Commercial real estate property management, leasing, and sales solutions across the US and globally. Learn more: https://www.tcnworldwide.com Build Out: The ultimate product suite for commercial real estate brokerage firms looking to streamline their business. Learn more: https://www.buildout.com   Bull Realty: Regional commercial real estate brokerage services headquartered in Atlanta, delivering market intel and strategies.Learn more: https://www.bullrealty.com Commercial Agent Success Strategies: Twenty-one cloud accessed commercial broker training videos with slide deck action notes. Learn more at https://www.commercialagentsuccess.com/  

While the traditional office sector faces ongoing scrutiny, government-leased office properties operate in a completely decoupled realm of stability. In this episode, host Michael Bull sits down with Darrell Crate, CEO, President, and Director of Easterly Government Properties, to dissect the unique mechanics of the federal and state leasing markets. Darrell pulls back the curtain on Easterly's 10-million-square-foot portfolio to explain why mission-critical government real estate remains one of the most resilient, high-credit anchors an investor can add to a CRE portfolio. From the market effects of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) to the strict nuances of navigating appropriations clauses, this conversation provides an elite blueprint for understanding how government tenancy drives long-term value, predictable 7% dividends, and unmatched lease stickiness. Key Topics Covered in This Episode: The Truth About DOGE and Government Real Estate: Darrell breaks down how the Department of Government Efficiency acts as a wave of private-sector accountability, forcing agencies to re-evaluate footprints without jeopardizing non-partisan, mission-critical assets like the FBI, VA, and DEA. The Asset-Light Disconnect: Why the U.S. government still owns two-thirds of its real estate footprint and why the ongoing transition toward a private-sector leasing model creates massive transaction volume and valuation arbitrage for private partners. Unmatched Occupancy and Stickiness: A look inside the metrics where standard commercial office vacancy headlines do not apply, highlighting how mission-critical facilities routinely maintain 98% to 100% occupancy over decades. Federal GSA vs. State Leases: Comparing the slow-moving underwriting of federal contracts against fiscally responsible state leases (like Georgia), which often feature built-in escalators and extended 25-to-40-year terms. The "Dabbler" Warning & Transaction Realities: Why standard commercial brokers face severe friction trying to execute government leases and why deep institutional knowledge is required to keep lenders comfortable through complex, multi-month negotiations. The Supply Cliff and Workforce Return: How a near-total freeze in new construction paired with the workforce return to physical spaces is providing sector-wide tailwinds for office real estate. Whether you are an institutional player looking to position capital in stable yield structures or a private investor wanting to understand the defensible "smile of the country" growth markets, this episode provides critical strategy for navigating the government real estate sector.   Connect with Darrell: https://easterlyreit.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/easterly-government-properties/   Connect with Michael Bull & The Show: Michael Bull, CCIM Bull Realty, Inc https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelbull/   For more commercial real estate market data, sector forecasts, and video episodes, visit CREshow.com.   America’s Commercial Real Estate Show is brought to you by our proud sponsors. TCN Worldwide: Commercial real estate property management, leasing, and sales solutions across the US and globally. Learn more: https://www.tcnworldwide.com Build Out: The ultimate product suite for commercial real estate brokerage firms looking to streamline their business. Learn more: https://www.buildout.com   Bull Realty: Regional commercial real estate brokerage services headquartered in Atlanta, delivering market intel and strategies.Learn more: https://www.bullrealty.com Commercial Agent Success Strategies: Twenty-one cloud accessed commercial broker training videos with slide deck action notes. Learn more at https://www.commercialagentsuccess.com/