If I Ruled the World: Creating Chaos with Anele and Sizwe

What Now is back! Join Trevor each week for conversations with today's most influential, smartest and sometimes funniest thinkers about our changing world. New episodes drop every Thursday starting September 18th. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

As we gear up for our new season launch on September 18, we’re taking a trip down memory lane with some of our favorite stories from Trevor’s childhood in South Africa. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What Now is taking a summer break! Season 3 will return in September with new guests, new ideas, and the same classic Trevor and friends. In the meantime, we’ll load up a few mystery bonus episodes, including this one straight from Trevor’s stand-up show in London. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Television and radio host Dan Corder and comedian/actor Eugene Khoza join Trevor to discuss relations between Blacks and Whites in South Africa. The three dig deep into the country’s racial history, current social climate, and the myth of “white genocide." Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This round of If I Ruled the World is going down in South Africa. Trevor invites friends-of-the-show Anele Mdoda and Sizwe Dhlomo to give ruling the world a try. Elections. Human Connection. Mandatory commuting. It’s all in the timing. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Trevor sits down with Jon Stewart in an epic episode of "My Favorite People". The two talk life, comedy, their experiences hosting The Daily Show, and the benefits of keeping one’s mind occupied. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

For this round of If I Ruled the World, Trevor and Christiana and joined by friend-of-the-show Tressie McMillan Cottom. They’re trying to find ways to connect people and limit societal rot; one quarterly report, character count, and service job at a time. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In another "My Favorite People" episode, Trevor sits down with Esther Perel. This time around, Esther reflects on her early life experiences and how those experiences have shaped her life and career. They also discuss the importance of “friction” as an essential element of a life well lived, and why we should all maybe be hanging out at the laundromat. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Trevor and Christiana are joined by Christian Rudder (co-founder of OkCupid and author of Dataclysm) to try and determine: Is a healthy dating app possible? They talk through how online dating has shifted since the “hope and change” moment of the early 2010s, and how data and technology can help and hurt our attempts at finding love. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jonathan Haidt, noted social psychologist and author of The Anxious Generation, sits down with Trevor and Christiana to discuss how smartphones and social media are harming Gen Z – and really all of us. He encourages claiming back third spaces, championing anti-fragility, and … maybe letting your kid go take a walk. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.