Live, Laugh, and Love the Sword of Laban w/ Shadiversity

Cardon and Jonah Barnes dive deep into scripture, scholarship, and the culture of LDS academia.The discussion begins playfully as Jonah explores chiasmus—a poetic structure in ancient texts—within the Book of Moses. He highlights a striking pattern between Adam and Eve’s statements after the Fall, jokingly calling it their “epic rap battle.” Adam’s partial chiasmus is countered by Eve’s bold, complete one, centering the doctrine of the “fortunate fall.” Jonah notes this insight hasn’t appeared in scholarly literature, making the discovery all the more thrilling.

This episode dives into the controversies and complexities surrounding Elder TikTok, a well-known LDS TikTok personality who’s faced repeated cancellation and criticism throughout his social media career. The hosts Cardon Ellis, Jonah Barnes, and guest Austin Falter discuss both the specific recent incidents and the broader cultural context in which Elder TikTok operates.

Cardon Ellis is joined by Ella Katzenbach, who put together both an article and a video on the topic, capturing authentic responses from fellow students on campus. This episode centers around the immediate student reactions at BYU to the passing of President Russell M. Nelson, the late prophet and leader of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The conversation opens with Cardon and Ella discussing the news of President Nelson’s death, which sadly was overshadowed in broader media by a tragic shooting in Michigan that same day. Despite this, Ella was able to gauge campus sentiment and conduct interviews with several students.

When Deseret News journalist Brigham Tomko sat down to profile Charlie Kirk, he didn’t know it would become the last interview before Kirk’s shocking assassination.In this episode of Ward Radio, host Cardon Ellis dives deep with Brigham into that story — from the tense 36 hours that followed the breaking news, to what Kirk revealed about his faith, prayer life, and the “bloodsport” of politics just days before his death.They also tackle big questions about journalism, bias, and belief. Is Deseret News a faith-driven voice for truth—or “Mormon propaganda,” as some critics claim? Brigham answers with insight and humor, unpacking how the paper balances transparency, editorial independence, and a Latter-day Saint worldview.Beyond the headline story, this conversation explores what it means to tell stories that matter—to seek light and truth even in tragedy.

Shad Brooks, also known as "Shadiversity" comes in studio to talk about the sword of Laban and "peacemaking" of all things.

Most Latter-day Saints think they know what the Pearl of Great Price is—but what if we’ve all been misunderstanding it? Cardon sits down with Jonah Barnes, author of Lost Gems of Genesis, to uncover the overlooked origins, revelations, and hidden depth of one of the Church’s most fascinating volumes of scripture. Jonah reveals that the Pearl of Great Price isn’t one continuous text, but a compilation of distinct revelations—given to Joseph Smith, Moses, and Adam at different times. He clears up major misconceptions about the so-called Joseph Smith Translation of Genesis, explaining why it’s not really a “translation” at all. The conversation dives into: The real story behind the Pearl of Great Price’s compilation, how the “lost 116 pages” might connect to Genesis material, why Joseph Smith’s revelations show unmatched originality, and yes—why Jonah calls the Pearl of Great Price the “Oops, All Berries” of scripture. Whether you’re a lifelong member or just curious about the foundations of Latter-day Saint belief, this episode will change how you read the scriptures forever.

When The God Makers hit the scene in the 1980s, it became one of the most infamous and damaging anti-Mormon films ever produced. In this episode of Ward Radio, we sit down with Robert Starling—author of A Case for Latter-day Christianity—to hear the inside story of how he confronted it head-on.Robert opens up about his time as a stake mission president and media specialist in Los Angeles, where he carefully tracked anti-LDS campaigns and uncovered the deceptive tactics behind The God Makers. He details his painstaking rebuttal of the film, identifying dozens of falsehoods, distortions, and outright fabrications used to misrepresent Latter-day Saint belief. His defense didn’t come without cost—Starling was dragged into a $27 million lawsuit simply for standing up for his faith and telling the truth.This conversation is more than a history lesson. It’s a gripping reminder of the spiritual battles fought not with weapons, but with words, research, and conviction. Robert’s story shows how ordinary Saints, armed with courage and testimony, can push back against misrepresentation and protect their faith community from attack.

We react to conference and a recent video a data scientist did about the Book of Mormon.

The relationship between evolution and Latter-day Saint belief is more than a passing curiosity—it’s a source of tension that continues to spark debate in classrooms, chapels, and even at BYU’s own Bean Museum. In this episode of Ward Radio, the panel dives straight into the heart of the issue, asking why exhibits depicting apes evolving into humans—and references to “Lucy”—cause so much frustration for members who believe in a literal Adam and Eve.But this discussion goes deeper than museum displays. The panel explores prophetic statements, common misunderstandings, and the spiritual implications of treating evolution as settled science. Along the way, they call out historical hoaxes, poke fun at academic double-speak, and wrestle with the bigger question: does embracing evolution undermine our divine identity as literal children of God, or can faith and science truly coexist?This isn’t just about fossils and theories—it’s about what it means to trust in modern prophets, to see past cultural assumptions, and to defend the doctrine that makes us who we are.

Cardon is joined by Ella Katzenback and guest Leah Tomlinson to dive deep into how Gen Z students at Brigham Young University (BYU) are rethinking marriage, children, and family size in today’s world.While large families have long been a celebrated part of Latter-day Saint (LDS) culture, shifting priorities and economic pressures are shaping new perspectives. Many students now prioritize financial stability and career readiness before considering marriage or kids, reflecting a growing sense of caution and pragmatism. Some women describe prioritizing finding a spouse over academic or professional ambitions, while men share the heavy economic pressures they feel to be providers before marrying.Our conversation highlights the tension between faith-driven ideals and real-world financial challenges, including the rising costs of raising children and the expectation of dual incomes in modern households. At the same time, BYU students share a genuine fondness for family and siblings, with many still aspiring to raise four to six children—though often fewer than the generations before them.Blending personal interviews, cultural reflection, and religious insight, this episode explores the unique crossroads where faith, finances, and modern values meet. While the traditional LDS vision of large families is evolving, the desire for family life remains strong, hopeful, and deeply tied to faith.