‘Pluribus’ Penultimate Episode and ‘Landman’ Episode 5

Chris and Andy briefly talk about the ‘Pluribus’ Season 1 finale (1:02), before they’re joined by series creator Vince Gilligan and star Rhea Seehorn to unpack the episode (8:25). They discuss Carol and Zosia’s complicated relationship, how they tackled the measured rhythm of the story, the challenges Seehorn encountered in acting opposite the Others, writing the second season, and much more. Subscribe to the Ringer TV YouTube channel here for full episodes of ‘The Watch’ and so much more! Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Guests: Vince Gilligan and Rhea Seehorn Producers: Kaya McMullen and Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the final trailer for ‘Industry’ Season 4 (4:05) and the first trailer for Christopher Nolan’s ‘The Odyssey,’ (6:35) before remembering ‘The Wire’ star James Ransone (14:14). Then they open up the mailbag to answer listener questions on identifying the Peak TV era, the best shows of the century, what the television landscape is going to look like in 2026, their favorite book recs of the year, and much more (16:21). Subscribe to the Ringer TV YouTube channel here for full episodes of The Watch and so much more! Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producers: Kaya McMullen and Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about all of the shows that are coming up in January, including ‘The Pitt’ Season 2 and the long-awaited second season of ‘The Night Manager’ (3:44). Then they talk about the penultimate episode of ‘Pluribus’ Season 1 and Carol's arc throughout this season (25:27) before recapping the latest episode of ‘Landman’ (38:36). Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producers: Kaya McMullen and Kai Grady Video Production: Jon Jones Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the tragic passing of legendary filmmaker Rob Reiner and his indelible impact on Hollywood over the years (3:30). Then they look back at this year in TV (14:14), run through a handful of honorable mentions (28:49), and reveal their top 10 shows of 2025 (55:41). Subscribe to the Ringer TV YouTube channel here for full episodes of The Watch and so much more! Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producers: Kaya McMullen and Kai Grady Additional Production Supervision: Jon Jones Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the second-season trailers for ‘Hijack’ (1:49) and ‘Paradise’ (8:17), as well as the first teaser for ‘Supergirl’ (11:07). Then they break down the ongoing Netflix–Paramount–Warner Bros. saga and the potential ripple effects of each outcome (13:18). Later, they discuss ‘Pluribus’ Episode 7 (42:24), Andy’s thoughts on the most recent episode of ‘Landman,’ (01:04:04) and the breakout success of ‘Heated Rivalry’ (01:07:46). Subscribe to the Ringer TV YouTube channel here for full episodes of The Watch and so much more! Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producers: Kaya McMullen and Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris opens the show by reacting to the news that Paramount is mounting a hostile takeover in the wake of Netflix’s Warner Bros. Discovery acquisition (1:00). He is then joined by Timothy Simons to talk about the Golden Globes nominations and why the awards show can still platform lesser-known titles (4:15). Along the way, Tim runs through everything he’s been watching, including recent ‘Succession’ and ‘Girls’ rewatches (14:55). Later, they discuss the degree of difficulty required to pull off what Rhea Seehorn is doing on ‘Pluribus,’ the show’s biggest fan theories (29:52), and ‘Landman’ S2E4 (48:34). Subscribe to the Ringer TV YouTube channel here for full episodes of The Watch and so much more! Host: Chris Ryan Guest: Timothy Simons Producers: Kaya McMullen and Kai Grady Additional Video Supervision: Donald LoBianco Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the news that Charlie Hunnam and Daniel Brühl are joining Matthew Macfadyen in ‘Legacy of Spies,’ an upcoming MGM+ series based on John Le Carré’s George Smiley spy novels (2:18). Along the way, they check in on the Warner Bros. Discovery bidding war (11:02). Later, they discuss ‘The Chair Company’ Season 1 finale (20:17) and ‘Pluribus’ Episode 6 (28:15). Subscribe to the Ringer TV YouTube channel here for full episodes of The Watch and so much more! Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producers: Kaya McMullen and Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris is joined by Mallory Rubin to talk about the premiere of the first four episodes of ‘Stranger Things’ Season 5 and how the trajectory of the show has changed so drastically over the years (2:00). Later, they discuss ‘Landman’ S2E3 and whether it’s the most entertaining show on television (59:26). Subscribe to the Ringer TV YouTube channel here for full episodes of The Watch and so much more! Host: Chris Ryan Guest: Mallory Rubin Producers: Kaya McMullen and Kai Grady Additional Video Supervision: Donald LoBianco Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the new Ken Burns six-part documentary ‘The American Revolution’ and his illustrious career (9:08), before reacting to trailers for ‘Industry’ S4 and ‘Y: Marshals’ (21:14). Later, they discuss ‘Pluribus’ Episode 4 (27:53) and ‘Landman’ Season 2, Episode 2 (40:01). Subscribe to the Ringer TV YouTube channel here for full episodes of The Watch and so much more! Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producers: Kaya McMullen and Kai Grady Additional Video Supervision: John Richter and Jon Jones Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chris and Andy talk about the ongoing bidding war for Warner Bros. Discovery and the news that Netflix’s offer would include theatrical releases (5:31), before reacting to the various renewal announcements from HBO including ‘Task’ and both ‘Game of Thrones’ spinoffs (12:23). Then they discuss the Netflix miniseries ‘The Beast in Me,’ starring Claire Danes and Matthew Rhys (30:51). Later, they check in on ‘The Chair Company’ (51:45) and ‘I Love LA’ (53:53). Subscribe to the Ringer TV YouTube channel here for full episodes of The Watch and so much more! Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald Producers: Kaya McMullen and Kai Grady Additional Video Supervision: Sarah Reddy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices