How Can You Address AI Bias In HR? With Jeff Pole, Warden AI

Jonna Sjövall, Global Head of Talent Attraction and Junior Talent at UBS, talks to Beamery’s Sultan Saidov about hiring for skills and potential, building an employer brand that resonates with recruiters as well as candidates, and having a shared vision as a team. Listen to the episode to learn more about: The importance of quality data when it comes to recruiting & workforce agilityThe changing nature of Talent Acquisition in Financial ServicesUsing technology to build talent communities – and empower recruitersBringing two employer brands together when companies merge The campaign Jonna is most proud of… “We need to be outcome focused. We need to really think about: what problem are we solving for the business right now? And what problem are we solving for the bank for the future, or for the long term?” 

Margot Slattery, Global Head of Diversity, Inclusion, Belonging and Social Sustainability at ISS A/S, explains what her job involves, her interesting path to getting there, and how her organization is putting something “behind the words” when it comes to building a global company of belonging.She speaks to host Sultan Saidov about:Enriching communities through employment and educationCareer progression and talent mobility as a route to unlocking employee potentialUsing technology to connect with people globallyThe power of data in making better decisions, and proving impact.“I’ve had that experience where I joined an organization and somebody unlocked my skills and my opportunities. I think it’s fundamental. It’s so important that we think about that all the time.” 

Jeff Pole runs Warden, an AI assurance provider that evaluates and communicates the trustworthiness of AI systems, with a particular focus on HR technology. Their platform does continuous auditing and testing for AI risks, such as bias, and helps support businesses to be compliant – particularly around new AI regulations – and build trust through transparency.In this conversation, Jeff talks to Sultan about: The changing nature of AI and automation in HR, and the associated risksThe process of continuous auditing, and testing for bias in AI modelsTransparency as a core theme in relevant regulations and guidelines Building trust in models and through user experiences The importance of explainability in AI-powered systems Using AI to actually reduce bias in hiring and other HR processes“There’s also a win-win opportunity here: Where the people-based processes the AI might be complementing are not necessarily what we should be emulating … We know there’s a huge amount of unconscious bias in human processes; for example, in hiring. And the AI can, if carefully designed and properly used, actually be an improvement on that status quo.”– Jeff Pole, Co-founder & CEO, Warden AI

Hear from Jenn Vigliotti, Director, Head of Global Leadership, Product & Go-to-Market Recruiting at Sonos, on the importance of candidate experience at the tech brand – and how they get Hiring Managers and TA aligned. Jenn tells Sultan why the tech brand has made stellar candidate experiences core to its talent strategy, how her Exec Search background has helped facilitate that approach… and how being a competitive synchronized ice skater in her youth has made her who she is today. Learn more about: Skills-based hiring approachesDifferentiating your tech brand in a competitive talent marketBuilding equitability into the hiring processUsing your company values to shape talent experiencesCreating a TA team that can be themselves at work ❤️The Talent Blueprint podcast is for business and HR leaders who want to build talent-first, skills-based organizations. In each episode, Beamery co-founder Sultan Saidov chats with industry experts who share their insights and experience around using talent to create a competitive business advantage.Subscribe today and receive episodes every two weeks to guide you to become a talent-first organization, on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or Captivate. Discover more episodes of The Talent Blueprint podcast here.

Elle Lebourg, Global Head of Talent Acquisition at Hilti Group, is also a career coach – and she has found that her training in coaching has opened up new ways of thinking about leadership, hiring, and HR in general. Listen to this fascinating conversation between Elle and Sultan to learn more about how a varied career path and ‘coaching mindset’ opens opportunities, plus: The value of hiring for potential – and the power of curiosityBuilding the future for TA, as trusted talent advisorsHow Hilti is repositioning the construction industry in its EVPProgrammatic advertising to targeted talent poolsPartnerships that make a positive social impact, while closing skills gapsThe Talent Blueprint podcast is for business and HR leaders who want to build talent-first, skills-based organizations. In each episode, Beamery co-founder Sultan Saidov chats with industry experts who share their insights and experience around using talent to create a competitive business advantage.Subscribe today and receive episodes every two weeks to guide you to become a talent-first organization, on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or Captivate. Discover more episodes of The Talent Blueprint podcast here.

AI is a hot topic in HR – and our Talent Blueprint guests have had plenty to say about it. Listen to this episode for some interesting insights about the role of AI in HR (and HR in AI) from the talent leaders who have joined us this season…Art Lokerson, HR Product Management Director for Talent Acquisition at Wells FargoStefan Begall, Group Head of Talent at Telia CompanyDavid Brammer, former Global Head of Talent Acquisition at OcadoAdam Artar, Director of Global Talent Acquisition, Edwards LifesciencesDarren Peiris, VP & Group Head of Recruitment at National GridAsh Walvoord, Head of Talent Management at VerizonSarah Keisling, Associate Vice President, Talent Management and HR Operations at Banner HealthJami Sinick, Vice President Talent Acquisition at Banner HealthNazim Unlu, Global People and Organization Director at Novartis,Guillermo Miranda, HR & Tech expert Discover what these industry leaders think about the benefits and challenges of using AI in recruitment, talent management and workforce planning, and how we ensure that we don’t lose the human touch when we bring automation to HR processes. The Talent Blueprint podcast is for business and HR leaders who want to build talent-first, skills-based organizations. In each episode, Beamery co-founder Sultan Saidov chats with an industry expert who shares their insights and experience around using talent to create a competitive business advantage.Subscribe today and receive episodes every two weeks to guide you to become a talent-first organization, on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or Captivate. 

In this episode, Nazım Ünlü, Global People and Organization Director at Novartis, shares his thoughts on organizational transformation, and why we should question the role of HR – and get better at “unlearning” in order to be successful. Nazım and your host Sultan Saidov discuss: The changing landscape of HR, and the need for HR professionals to adapt traditional practices.The power of technology, particularly AI, in providing HR with easy access to strategic data – and shaping the future of the function.How HR can own and use workforce data, and the importance of creating a tangible use case for HR data.Looking at roles based on skills and experiences, rather than predefined job descriptions.Recent forays into internal talent mobility initiatives, and letting employees find their own upskilling paths… particularly in response to changing skill demands.Listen now to learn more about the evolving role of HR, the impact of technology on workforce data, and the need for HR professionals to embrace continuous learning – and unlearning. The Talent Blueprint podcast is for business and HR leaders who want to build talent-first, skills-based organizations. In each episode, Beamery co-founder Sultan Saidov chats with an industry expert who shares their insights and experience around using talent to create a competitive business advantage.Subscribe today and receive episodes every two weeks to guide you to become a talent-first organization, on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or Captivate. Discover more episodes of The Talent Blueprint podcast here.

On this exciting episode of the Talent Blueprint podcast, Sultan speaks to TWO Talent leaders from Banner Health, a non-profit Health system. Hear Jami Sinick, Vice President of Talent Acquisition, and Sarah Keisling, Associate Vice President, Talent Management and HR Operations, talk about how they work together in order to bring in the skills the organization needs today… and in the future.  Listen now to discover: How they are building talent pipelines at Banner Health, with a view to what happens after people joinHow looking at “career pathways” has led to different ways of thinking about how to integrate Talent Management with Talent AcquisitionHow they think about agility in talent decision-making, and when to hire for skills or develop for skills (versus needing qualifications)The mindset shifts needed to embrace skills-based talent managementHow technology is facilitating talent development programs, and how they engage employees and managers in digital transformationHow to create inclusion in the communities and areas you recruit from.As well as advice they would share to people taking their career paths… and things they wished every CEO and executive knew about their departments. The Talent Blueprint podcast is for business and HR leaders who want to build talent-first, skills-based organizations. In each episode, Beamery co-founder Sultan Saidov chats with an industry expert who shares their insights and experience around using talent to create a competitive business advantage.Subscribe today and receive episodes every two weeks to guide you to become a talent-first organization.Discover more episodes of The Talent Blueprint podcast here.

In this episode of the Talent Blueprint, Art Lokerson, HR Product Management Director for Talent Acquisition at Wells Fargo, shines a light on some of the ways the bank – and financial services in general – has responded to the rapidly shifting talent and technological landscape. Listen to this episode to learn more about:  How technology is helping to meet customer and candidate needs at Wells Fargo, with AI aiding personalization at scale.The evolution of Talent Acquisition, and how TA is anticipating future skills needs rather than just replacing existing roles. Why Talent Acquisition is integrating more with Talent Management, learning development, promotions, and gig work.How insights from AI and other tools will make recruiting leaders more anticipatory and proactive in working with business partners.Programs for transitioning military and underrepresented communities, and silver medallists. “Our candidates are expecting a customer grade experience every time we have an interaction. They expect our ATS to be as dynamic as our ATMs.” – Art LokersonThe Talent Blueprint podcast is for business and HR leaders who want to build talent-first, skills-based organizations. In each episode, Beamery co-founder Sultan Saidov chats with an industry expert who shares their insights and experience around using talent to create a competitive business advantage.Subscribe today and receive episodes every two weeks to guide you to become a talent-first organization, on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or Captivate. Discover more episodes of The Talent Blueprint podcast here.

Do you know why HR leaders need to be more like the Italian grandmother who got really good at making ristrettos…? Guillermo Miranda, Talent Management expert, Digital Adoption & AI Transformation Leader, and a partner and advisor to several companies, speaks to Sultan Saidov about why AI, talent agility, human-centricity, non-traditional perspectives, and being able to learn (and unlearn) are all organizational advantages in 2023 and beyond. Listen to the episode now to learn more about: The importance of skills in today’s talent landscape How a design thinking workshop changed Guillermo’s entire outlookThe connection between a fixed mindset and a traditional (relational) databaseFeeling the fear and doing it anyway, when it comes to new technologies.  The Talent Blueprint podcast is for business and HR leaders who want to build talent-first, skills-based organizations. In each episode, Beamery co-founder Sultan Saidov chats with an industry expert who shares their insights and experience around using talent to create a competitive business advantage.Subscribe today and receive episodes every two weeks to guide you to become a talent-first organization, on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or Captivate. Discover more episodes of The Talent Blueprint podcast here.