106. Inside the Trump-Putin Meeting: What Went Wrong?

What forces fueled the violence behind Charlie Kirk’s murder? Can America recover from the rising tide of political violence? What does Charlie Kirk’s killing reveal about the state of democracy in the US? Join Katty Kay and Anthony Scaramucci as they answer all these questions and more. Become a Founding Member: Go deeper into US politics every week with ad-free listening, members-only miniseries, early access to live show tickets and a bonus members-only Q&A podcast every week. Sign up at ⁠⁠⁠⁠therestispoliticsus.com⁠⁠⁠ Revolut Business To save your company time and money, open a Revolut Business account today via ⁠⁠www.revolut.com/rb/therestispoliticsus⁠⁠, and add money to your account by 31st of December 2025 to get a £200 welcome bonus or equivalent in your local currency. Feature availability varies by plan. This offer’s available for New Business customers in the UK, US, Australia and Ireland. Fees and Terms & Conditions apply. For US customers, Revolut is not a bank. Banking services and card issuance are provided by Lead Bank, Member FDIC. Visa® and Mastercard® cards issued under license. Funds are FDIC insured up to $250,000 through Lead Bank, in the event Lead Bank fails. Fees may apply. See full terms in description. For Irish customers, Revolut Bank UAB is authorised and regulated by the Bank of Lithuania in the Republic of Lithuania and by the European Central Bank and is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland for conduct of business rules. For AU customers, consider PDS & TMD at ⁠⁠revolut.com/en-AU⁠⁠. Revolut Payments Australia Pty Ltd (AFSL 517589). Instagram: ⁠⁠@RestPoliticsUS⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠@RestPoliticsUS⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠ Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Fiona Douglas Video Editor: Kieron Leslie  Social Producer: Charlie Johnson  Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Head of Digital: Sam Oakley Exec Producers: Tony Pastor, Jack Davenport  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

*Founding Members exclusive* Ronald Reagan seized the political moment after electrifying conservatives with his “Time for Choosing” speech. In this episode, Katty Kay and Anthony Scaramucci trace Reagan’s rise from outsider to Governor of California, navigating student protests, rising crime, and the turmoil of the late 1960s. Reagan became a national figure, and his ambitions stretched further. We explore Reagan’s first bid for the presidency, the lessons he learned, and how he built the political machine that would eventually carry him all the way to the White House. Become a Founding Member: Go deeper into US politics every week with ad-free listening, members-only miniseries, early access to live show tickets and a bonus members-only Q&A podcast every week. Sign up at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠therestispoliticsus.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠@RestPoliticsUS⁠⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠@RestPoliticsUS⁠⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Fiona Douglas Video Editor: Kieron Leslie, Adam Thornton  Social Producer: Charlie Johnson  Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Head of Digital: Sam Oakley Exec Producers: Tony Pastor, Jack Davenport  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Is Donald Trump lying about the Epstein birthday letter? Why has he rebranded to The Department of War? Is the US economy finally feeling the real effects of Trump’s tariffs? This week, Anthony Scaramucci is joined by renowned journalist Stephen Sackur to answer all these questions and more. Become a Founding Member: Go deeper into US politics every week with ad-free listening, members-only miniseries, early access to live show tickets and a bonus members-only Q&A podcast every week. Sign up at ⁠⁠⁠therestispoliticsus.com⁠⁠ Revolut Business To save your company time and money, open a Revolut Business account today via ⁠www.revolut.com/rb/therestispoliticsus⁠, and add money to your account by 31st of December 2025 to get a £200 welcome bonus or equivalent in your local currency. Feature availability varies by plan. This offer’s available for New Business customers in the UK, US, Australia and Ireland. Fees and Terms & Conditions apply. For US customers, Revolut is not a bank. Banking services and card issuance are provided by Lead Bank, Member FDIC. Visa® and Mastercard® cards issued under license. Funds are FDIC insured up to $250,000 through Lead Bank, in the event Lead Bank fails. Fees may apply. See full terms in description. For Irish customers, Revolut Bank UAB is authorised and regulated by the Bank of Lithuania in the Republic of Lithuania and by the European Central Bank and is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland for conduct of business rules. For AU customers, consider PDS & TMD at ⁠revolut.com/en-AU⁠. Revolut Payments Australia Pty Ltd (AFSL 517589). Instagram: ⁠@RestPoliticsUS⁠ Twitter: ⁠@RestPoliticsUS⁠ Email: ⁠[email protected]⁠ Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Fiona Douglas Video Editor: Kieron Leslie  Social Producer: Charlie Johnson  Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Head of Digital: Sam Oakley Exec Producers: Tony Pastor, Jack Davenport  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ronald Reagan is one of the most mythologized figures in American politics, but how did an actor and former Democrat become the standard-bearer of conservatism?  In this new series exclusively for Founding Members explore Reagan’s rise, legacy, and myth. Who was the real Ronald Reagan, and what does his story reveal about the Republican Party today under Donald Trump? Become a Founding Member: Go deeper into US politics every week with ad-free listening, members-only miniseries, early access to live show tickets and a bonus members-only Q&A podcast every week. Sign up at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠therestispoliticsus.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ In Episode 1, we trace Reagan’s unlikely transformation from small-town Democrat to Hollywood liberal, and finally to conservative crusader. Raised in poverty in the Midwest, he found fame on the silver screen before becoming a union activist, only to be pulled rightward by Cold War paranoia, tax battles, and a new marriage. Instagram: ⁠⁠@RestPoliticsUS⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠@RestPoliticsUS⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠ Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Fiona Douglas Video Editor: Kieron Leslie, Adam Thornton  Social Producer: Charlie Johnson  Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Head of Digital: Sam Oakley Exec Producers: Tony Pastor, Jack Davenport  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Why are ICE raids making parents afraid to snd their children to school? How is the economy really coping under Trump? And, could we be on the brink of all Epstein files being released?  This week, Katty Kay is joined by political journalist, and MSNBC colleague, Sam Stein. Become a Founding Member: Go deeper into US politics every week with ad-free listening, members-only miniseries, early access to live show tickets and a bonus members-only Q&A podcast every week. Sign up at ⁠⁠therestispoliticsus.com⁠ Revolut Business To save your company time and money, open a Revolut Business account today via www.revolut.com/rb/therestispoliticsus, and add money to your account by 31st of December 2025 to get a £200 welcome bonus or equivalent in your local currency. Feature availability varies by plan. This offer’s available for New Business customers in the UK, US, Australia and Ireland. Fees and Terms & Conditions apply. For US customers, Revolut is not a bank. Banking services and card issuance are provided by Lead Bank, Member FDIC. Visa® and Mastercard® cards issued under license. Funds are FDIC insured up to $250,000 through Lead Bank, in the event Lead Bank fails. Fees may apply. See full terms in description. For Irish customers, Revolut Bank UAB is authorised and regulated by the Bank of Lithuania in the Republic of Lithuania and by the European Central Bank and is regulated by the Central Bank of Ireland for conduct of business rules. For AU customers, consider PDS & TMD at revolut.com/en-AU. Revolut Payments Australia Pty Ltd (AFSL 517589). Instagram: @RestPoliticsUS Twitter: @RestPoliticsUS Email: [email protected] Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Fiona Douglas Video Editor: Kieron Leslie  Social Producer: Charlie Johnson  Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Head of Digital: Sam Oakley Exec Producers: Tony Pastor, Jack Davenport  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Has Donald Trump just taken his biggest step yet towards authoritarian rule? Can America, and the Democrats, fight back before it’s too late? Is this the week that marks a true turning point for U.S. democracy? Join Katty Kay and Anthony  Scaramucci as they answer all these questions and more. Pivotal: Visit drivePivotal.com/TRIPUS to find out more and use code TRIP50 for 50% off the joining fee Become a Founding Member: Go deeper into US politics every week with ad-free listening, members-only miniseries, early access to live show tickets and a bonus members-only Q&A podcast every week. Sign up at ⁠⁠therestispoliticsus.com⁠⁠ Instagram: @RestPoliticsUS Twitter: @RestPoliticsUS Email: [email protected] Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Fiona Douglas Video Editor: Kieron Leslie  Social Producer: Charlie Johnson  Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Head of Digital: Sam Oakley Exec Producers: Tony Pastor, Jack Davenport  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Will Donald Trump turn on Ukraine? How is Trump implementing ‘Oval Office Capitalism’? Will presidential powers ever stop expanding?  Join Katty Kay and Anthony Scaramucci as they answer all these questions and more. Become a Founding Member: Go deeper into US politics every week with ad-free listening, members-only miniseries, early access to live show tickets and a bonus members-only podcast every week. Sign up at ⁠therestispoliticsus.com⁠ For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.goalhanger.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠@RestPoliticsUS⁠⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠@RestPoliticsUS⁠⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠ Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Fiona Douglas Video Editor: Kieron Leslie  Social Producer: Charlie Johnson  Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Head of Digital: Sam Oakley Exec Producers: Tony Pastor, Jack Davenport  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What happened inside Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin's meeting? Is this a win for Russia? What’s next for Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Ukraine? Join Katty Kay and Anthony Scaramucci as they answer all these questions and more. For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to ⁠⁠⁠⁠www.goalhanger.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠@RestPoliticsUS⁠⁠ Twitter: ⁠⁠@RestPoliticsUS⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠ Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Fiona Douglas Video Editor: Kieron Leslie  Social Producer: Charlie Johnson  Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Head of Digital: Sam Oakley Exec Producers: Tony Pastor, Jack Davenport  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What does Trump really want from Putin? Will the Alaska summit end the war in Ukraine? Why has Trump sent the National Guard into Washington DC? Join Katty Kay and Anthony Scaramucci as they answer all these questions and more. Become a Founding Member: Go deeper into US politics every week with ad-free listening, members-only miniseries, early access to live show tickets and a bonus members-only Q&A podcast every week. Sign up at therestispoliticsus.com For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to ⁠⁠www.goalhanger.com⁠⁠ Instagram: @RestPoliticsUS Twitter: @RestPoliticsUS Email: [email protected] Assistant Producer: India Dunkley Producer: Fiona Douglas Video Editor: Kieron Leslie  Social Producer: Charlie Johnson  Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Head of Digital: Sam Oakley Exec Producers: Tony Pastor, Jack Davenport  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Katty is joined by historian and co-host of Goalhanger’s Journey Through Time, Sarah Churchwell, to discuss their new series on the History of The National Rifle Association.  How does the history of the National Rifle Association help us better understand how Trump got into power? How did the NRA go from a sportsman’s organisation set up to improve marksmanship following the civil war to a for-profit group fighting gun regulation? How did firearms become integral to certain conceptions of American national identity? Listen to David Olusoga and Sarah Churchwell on Journey Through Time to get the full story.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices