E608: Pain, Perception, and Recovery: What You’re Missing in Rehab and Neuroscience

Shallow and Jiunta go back to where it all started. From broke chiropractors with student debt to running podcast tours out of camper vans, they share the untold stories behind RX’D Radio’s creation. This episode dives into the frustrations that fueled their message, the role of collaboration over competition, and why creating value, not clout, was always the foundation. Join the PSL1 Waitlist Now For Our Only Course Discount. https://www.pre-script.com/psl1 FREE Coach's Field Guide: https://www.pre-script.com/coachs-field-guide We’ve got a new sponsor! Marek Health is a health optimization company that offers advanced blood testing, health coaching, and expert medical oversight. Our services can help you enhance your lifestyle, nutrition, and supplementation to medical treatment and care. https://marekhealth.com/rxd Code RXD Don’t miss the release of our newest educational community - The Pre-Script ® Collective! Join the community today at www.pre-script.com. For other strength training, health, and injury prevention resources, check out our website, YouTube channel, and Instagram. For more episodes, subscribe and tune in to our podcast. Also, make sure to sign up to our mailing list at www.pre-script.com to get the first updates on new programming releases. You can also follow Dr. Jordan Shallow and Dr. Jordan Jiunta on Instagram! Dr. Jordan Shallow: https://www.instagram.com/the_muscle_doc/ Dr. Jordan Jiunta: https://www.instagram.com/redwiteandjordan/ The Spark That Started RX’D (00:00:00) Meeting Up, Trading Ideas, and Early Struggles (00:05:30) Frustrations With the Fitness Industry (00:07:00) Collaboration Over Competition (00:09:30) Why Content Creation Was About Value, Not Clout (00:15:30) The Podcast Tour and Sleeping in Camper Vans (00:24:00) Landing Early Guests and Building Credibility (00:30:00) Value First: How to Think About Business Growth (00:40:00) Lessons That Still Hold True Today (00:52:00)

Shallow and Dante break down the importance of collaboration, how to take calibrated risks before you feel ready, and why “burnout” is usually an input problem. We cover mentoring through honest self-audits, keeping training alive while building a business, and the athlete environment that raises your ceiling online and in the room. https://www.instagram.com/malleusperformance/ Join the PSL1 Waitlist Now For Our Only Course Discount. https://www.pre-script.com/psl1 FREE Coach's Field Guide: https://www.pre-script.com/coachs-field-guide We’ve got a new sponsor! Marek Health is a health optimization company that offers advanced blood testing, health coaching, and expert medical oversight. Our services can help you enhance your lifestyle, nutrition, and supplementation to medical treatment and care. https://marekhealth.com/rxd Code RXD Don’t miss the release of our newest educational community - The Pre-Script ® Collective! Join the community today at www.pre-script.com. For other strength training, health, and injury prevention resources, check out our website, YouTube channel, and Instagram. For more episodes, subscribe and tune in to our podcast. Also, make sure to sign up to our mailing list at www.pre-script.com to get the first updates on new programming releases. You can also follow Dr. Jordan Shallow and Dr. Jordan Jiunta on Instagram! Dr. Jordan Shallow: https://www.instagram.com/the_muscle_doc/ Dr. Jordan Jiunta: https://www.instagram.com/redwiteandjordan/ Why “shoot your shot” (00:00:00) Coaching is collaborative, not solo (00:00:52) Mentorship and the scarcity trap (00:04:21) The $18K U-Haul: risk with consequences (00:08:07) Start now: smallest moves that matter (00:11:23) Work ethic, pressure, and perspective (00:15:14) Scaling brick-and-mortar + online (00:18:03) Authenticity beats the algorithm (00:20:17) Self-audit: skills vs. avoidance (00:24:05) Burnout is an input problem (00:31:10) Athlete rooms that energize coaches (00:36:00) Keep training while you build (00:42:11) Use the mid-day gap: train (00:49:55)  

Ben Prentiss joins RX’D Radio to share lessons from three decades of training elite athletes. From his early days learning under Charles Poliquin to building one of the most respected training facilities in the world, Ben dives into the evolution of performance coaching, supplementation, and nutrition. https://www.prentisshockey.com/ Join the PSL1 Waitlist Now For Our Only Course Discount. https://www.pre-script.com/psl1 FREE Coach's Field Guide: https://www.pre-script.com/coachs-field-guide We’ve got a new sponsor! Marek Health is a health optimization company that offers advanced blood testing, health coaching, and expert medical oversight. Our services can help you enhance your lifestyle, nutrition, and supplementation to medical treatment and care. https://marekhealth.com/rxd Code RXD Don’t miss the release of our newest educational community - The Pre-Script ® Collective! Join the community today at www.pre-script.com. For other strength training, health, and injury prevention resources, check out our website, YouTube channel, and Instagram. For more episodes, subscribe and tune in to our podcast. Also, make sure to sign up to our mailing list at www.pre-script.com to get the first updates on new programming releases. You can also follow Dr. Jordan Shallow and Dr. Jordan Jiunta on Instagram! Dr. Jordan Shallow: https://www.instagram.com/the_muscle_doc/ Dr. Jordan Jiunta: https://www.instagram.com/redwiteandjordan/ Coaching and supplementation (00:00:00) Early career and training influences (00:02:14) Opening his first gym and working with Poliquin (00:08:11) From aesthetics to performance-based nutrition (00:15:16) Why less is more with supplements (00:16:51) The reality of athlete nutrition and recovery (00:19:19) Sleep, travel, and performance demands (00:26:26) Formulating supplements with integrity (00:34:13) Why athletes skip fruits and vegetables (00:38:19) Coaching and product integrity (00:42:06)

Shallow and Jiunta break down the difference between technique, skill, and motor learning. From rehab to high-level performance, we explore how intention, quality of execution, and adaptability define your ability to actually get stronger, build muscle, and stay injury-free. Join the PSL1 Waitlist Now For Our Only Course Discount. https://www.pre-script.com/psl1 FREE Coach's Field Guide: https://www.pre-script.com/coachs-field-guide We’ve got a new sponsor! Marek Health is a health optimization company that offers advanced blood testing, health coaching, and expert medical oversight. Our services can help you enhance your lifestyle, nutrition, and supplementation to medical treatment and care. https://marekhealth.com/rxd Code RXD Don’t miss the release of our newest educational community - The Pre-Script ® Collective! Join the community today at www.pre-script.com. For other strength training, health, and injury prevention resources, check out our website, YouTube channel, and Instagram. For more episodes, subscribe and tune in to our podcast. Also, make sure to sign up to our mailing list at www.pre-script.com to get the first updates on new programming releases. You can also follow Dr. Jordan Shallow and Dr. Jordan Jiunta on Instagram! Dr. Jordan Shallow: https://www.instagram.com/the_muscle_doc/ Dr. Jordan Jiunta: https://www.instagram.com/redwiteandjordan/ Early Podcast Struggles (00:00:00) Airplanes, Neck Pillows, and Public Weirdness (00:03:00) From Travel Devices to Gym Devices (00:06:40) Engineers Who Forget Physics at the Gym (00:07:50) Motor Learning vs. Technique (00:08:20) Intention, Adaptation, and Misaligned Training (00:10:10) Running Like You’re Chased vs. Running with Skill (00:13:10) Motor Learning Always Comes First (00:15:30) Novices, Frequency, and False Progress (00:20:00) Redefining Success in Training Sessions (00:31:00) Rehab, Subjectivity, and Skill Isolation (00:34:20) Whole-Part-Whole Teaching Model (00:38:00) Showing Your Work: Coaching as Problem-Solving (00:41:00) Age, Plasticity, and Motor Learning Challenges (00:43:30) Coaching Youth vs. Older Athletes (00:47:30) Assessments, Movement Quality, and Coaching Experience (00:50:00) Subjective vs. Objective Progression (00:54:30)

Killian Hamilton is back as the guys go deep into the art of sprint coaching with a full breakdown of setup, shin angles, acceleration, transition, and max velocity. From the weight room to the track, we explore how to integrate sprint work into a training week, avoid overcooking athletes, and develop speed that actually transfers to sport. https://www.compoundtpa.com/speed-camp LAST CHANCE to register for this cohort of PSL1. https://www.pre-script.com/psl1 FREE Coach's Field Guide: https://www.pre-script.com/coachs-field-guide We’ve got a new sponsor! Marek Health is a health optimization company that offers advanced blood testing, health coaching, and expert medical oversight. Our services can help you enhance your lifestyle, nutrition, and supplementation to medical treatment and care. https://marekhealth.com/rxd Code RXD Don’t miss the release of our newest educational community - The Pre-Script ® Collective! Join the community today at www.pre-script.com. For other strength training, health, and injury prevention resources, check out our website, YouTube channel, and Instagram. For more episodes, subscribe and tune in to our podcast. Also, make sure to sign up to our mailing list at www.pre-script.com to get the first updates on new programming releases. You can also follow Dr. Jordan Shallow and Dr. Jordan Jiunta on Instagram! Dr. Jordan Shallow: https://www.instagram.com/the_muscle_doc/ Dr. Jordan Jiunta: https://www.instagram.com/redwiteandjordan/ Intro: Sprint coaching and co-host return (00:00:00) Why speed is always in fashion (00:02:19) Where to start with speed development (00:04:01) Strength as a limiter for speed (00:07:06) Acceleration setup mistakes and shin angle cues (00:10:09) First step mechanics and projection (00:17:11) Attributes that influence sprint positions (00:21:17) Transitioning smoothly to max velocity (00:25:05) Using resisted sprinting to fix transition issues (00:29:13) Delaying max velocity for better race outcomes (00:32:03) Programming sprint work without overcooking athletes (00:35:57) Integrating sprint and weight room training (00:42:06) Elite athlete case study: adjusting the plan (00:45:19) Speed Camp: building humility and empathy in coaching (00:49:55)

From a misdiagnosed spinal fracture to the neuroscience of nociception, this episode unpacks the real relationship between pain, injury, and perception. Shallow and Jiunta explore how prior experiences, raw sensory data, and normative expectations all shape the experience of pain, and how understanding this can radically improve rehab outcomes.  Class Starts August 11th! Sign up for PSL1 now at www.pre-script.com/psl1 FREE Coach's Field Guide: https://www.pre-script.com/coachs-field-guide We’ve got a new sponsor! Marek Health is a health optimization company that offers advanced blood testing, health coaching, and expert medical oversight. Our services can help you enhance your lifestyle, nutrition, and supplementation to medical treatment and care. https://marekhealth.com/rxd Code RXD Don’t miss the release of our newest educational community - The Pre-Script ® Collective! Join the community today at www.pre-script.com. For other strength training, health, and injury prevention resources, check out our website, YouTube channel, and Instagram. For more episodes, subscribe and tune in to our podcast. Also, make sure to sign up to our mailing list at www.pre-script.com to get the first updates on new programming releases. You can also follow Dr. Jordan Shallow and Dr. Jordan Jiunta on Instagram! Dr. Jordan Shallow: https://www.instagram.com/the_muscle_doc/ Dr. Jordan Jiunta: https://www.instagram.com/redwiteandjordan/ Breaking News: Turns Out It Wasn’t a Disc Herniation (00:00:00) Pain vs. Injury: What’s the Real Difference? (00:05:03) How Perception Shapes Pain: The Gorilla Study & Brain Science (00:09:17) Bayesian Inference (00:16:16) The Athlete vs. the First-Timer: Prior Experience and Discomfort (00:26:01) Why Foam Rolling “Works” (Even If It Doesn’t) (00:33:16) The Rehab Equation: Raw Data, Prior, and Normative Values (00:35:27) Downregulating Nociception Without Drugs (00:40:04) Precision Movement and Motor Learning in Rehab (00:48:06) Sensation vs. Perception: Teaching Clients to Understand Pain (00:54:16) A Philosophical Revolution in Pain Science (00:57:21)

Shallow is joined by Dr. Sean Pastuch for a deep and personal conversation on leadership, risk, and the hidden gaps in how most coaches communicate. From stepping away from a thriving business to rebuilding his life, Sean shares what it really means to take ownership of your time, your team, and your future. https://www.instagram.com/drseanpastuch/ Certification for professionals tired of slow progress and corrective exercise. PSL1 enrolment is now LIVE! https://www.pre-script.com/psl1 FREE Coach's Field Guide: https://www.pre-script.com/coachs-field-guide We’ve got a new sponsor! Marek Health is a health optimization company that offers advanced blood testing, health coaching, and expert medical oversight. Our services can help you enhance your lifestyle, nutrition, and supplementation to medical treatment and care. https://marekhealth.com/rxd Code RXD Don’t miss the release of our newest educational community -  The Pre-Script ® Collective! Join the community today at  www.pre-script.com. For other strength training, health, and injury prevention resources, check out our website, YouTube channel, and Instagram. For more episodes, subscribe and tune in to our podcast. Also, make sure to sign up to our mailing list at www.pre-script.com to get the first updates on new programming releases. You can also follow Dr. Jordan Shallow and Dr. Jordan Jiunta on Instagram! Dr. Jordan Shallow: https://www.instagram.com/the_muscle_doc/ Dr. Jordan Jiunta: https://www.instagram.com/redwiteandjordan/ The First Full-Circle Moment (00:00:00) Sean’s Origin Story and Early Missteps (00:02:00) Social Media, Business Growth, and a Brick Wall (00:05:00) Signal Errors in Coaching: Athletes vs. Coaches vs. Clients (00:07:30) How Most Coaches Misread the Room (00:10:00) Mentorship, Missed Guidance, and Business Pivoting (00:14:00) Leaving What’s “Working” to Rebuild (00:20:00) European Vacations and Lessons in Lifestyle Design (00:24:30) Managing Emotion, Team Trust, and Leadership Gaps (00:28:30) Success Isn’t About Scale, It’s About Fit (00:35:00) When the Business Steals Your Identity (00:42:00) Rebuilding Culture and Boundaries from the Ground Up (00:47:30) What Coaches Owe Their Clients (00:53:00) The Value of Saying No and Building on Purpose (01:00:00) Growth, Alignment, and Longevity (01:12:00)

Shallow and Jiunta dive deep into the cultural, physical, and business differences between CrossFit and HYROX and what they reveal about the future of fitness. This episode covers everything from blood pressure scares and training evolution to the influence of branding, and corporate sponsorships. Whether you’re training for performance, longevity, or just trying to outlast your dad’s driveway sniper nest, this one hits home. Certification for professionals tired of slow progress and corrective exercise. PSL1 enrolment is now LIVE! https://www.pre-script.com/psl1 FREE Coach's Field Guide: https://www.pre-script.com/coachs-field-guide We’ve got a new sponsor! Marek Health is a health optimization company that offers advanced blood testing, health coaching, and expert medical oversight. Our services can help you enhance your lifestyle, nutrition, and supplementation to medical treatment and care. https://marekhealth.com/rxd Code RXD Don’t miss the release of our newest educational community - The Pre-Script ® Collective! Join the community today at www.pre-script.com. For other strength training, health, and injury prevention resources, check out our website, YouTube channel, and Instagram. For more episodes, subscribe and tune in to our podcast. Also, make sure to sign up to our mailing list at www.pre-script.com to get the first updates on new programming releases. You can also follow Dr. Jordan Shallow and Dr. Jordan Jiunta on Instagram! Dr. Jordan Shallow: https://www.instagram.com/the_muscle_doc/ Dr. Jordan Jiunta: https://www.instagram.com/redwiteandjordan/ Blood Work and Black Coffee (00:00:00) CT Scans and the Anxiety Spiral (00:02:00) Passing Down Training (00:10:00) From Competing to Longevity (00:13:00) Redefining Progress in the Gym (00:17:00) HYROX vs. CrossFit: What's the Difference? (00:21:00) How CrossFit Shaped Modern Fitness (00:26:00) Social Media, Community, and Gym Culture (00:30:00) Why HYROX Might Not Last (00:35:00) The Power of Big Brand Sponsorships (00:40:00) Community is the Retention Strategy (00:44:00)

Shallow and Jiunta get real about the content hamster wheel. From mocking fake authenticity to unpacking how coaches lose themselves trying to chase trends, the guys deliver a raw breakdown of what sustainable content actually looks like. They cover everything from business alignment to social media burnout, the importance of storytelling, and how creativity fuels longevity in coaching.  Certification for professionals tired of slow progress and corrective exercise. PSL1 enrolment is now LIVE! https://www.pre-script.com/psl1 FREE Coach's Field Guide: https://www.pre-script.com/coachs-field-guide We’ve got a new sponsor! Marek Health is a health optimization company that offers advanced blood testing, health coaching, and expert medical oversight. Our services can help you enhance your lifestyle, nutrition, and supplementation to medical treatment and care. https://marekhealth.com/rxd Code RXD Don’t miss the release of our newest educational community - The Pre-Script ® Collective! Join the community today at www.pre-script.com. For other strength training, health, and injury prevention resources, check out our website, YouTube channel, and Instagram. For more episodes, subscribe and tune in to our podcast. Also, make sure to sign up to our mailing list at www.pre-script.com to get the first updates on new programming releases. You can also follow Dr. Jordan Shallow and Dr. Jordan Jiunta on Instagram! Dr. Jordan Shallow: https://www.instagram.com/the_muscle_doc/ Dr. Jordan Jiunta: https://www.instagram.com/redwiteandjordan/ Authentic Chaos (00:00:00) Why “No Plan” Used to Work (00:00:30) Kids, Chiropractors, and Zero Direction (00:02:00) The Emoji Witness Protection Program (00:03:15) Everything is Content (00:04:30) Real Coaching vs Social Clout (00:06:00) Muting for Mental Health (00:08:00) Sharing vs Selling (00:12:00) Business Alignment and Burnout (00:15:00) Why Most Coaches Struggle with Content (00:18:00) Create for Creation’s Sake (00:21:00) The Death of Originality (00:24:00) Consistency vs Virality (00:27:00) Content that Actually Builds Connection (00:30:00) Systems Over Storytelling (00:33:30) Coaching as a Creative Outlet (00:36:00) Getting Back to the Work Itself (00:38:30) The Cost of Chasing Clout (00:42:00) Finding Purpose in Repetition (00:45:30) Scaling Without Selling Out (00:48:00) Vision, Voice, and Value (00:51:00) Building a Legacy Through Creation (00:55:00)

This week Jiunta welcomes Jay Jones to the Podcast. From walking on to a D1 football team, to becoming a First Lieutenant in the U.S. Marines, Jay’s story is a raw and unfiltered journey through identity, failure, and grit. Tune in as the guys talk about what happens when hard work isn’t enough, why identity beyond sport matters, and how the lowest moments can redefine your purpose. https://www.instagram.com/sweetjones_1911?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw== Certification for professionals tired of slow progress and corrective exercise. PSL1 enrolment is now LIVE! https://www.pre-script.com/psl1 FREE Coach's Field Guide: https://www.pre-script.com/coachs-field-guide We’ve got a new sponsor! Marek Health is a health optimization company that offers advanced blood testing, health coaching, and expert medical oversight. Our services can help you enhance your lifestyle, nutrition, and supplementation to medical treatment and care. https://marekhealth.com/rxd Code RXD Don’t miss the release of our newest educational community - The Pre-Script ® Collective! Join the community today at www.pre-script.com. For other strength training, health, and injury prevention resources, check out our website, YouTube channel, and Instagram. For more episodes, subscribe and tune in to our podcast. Also, make sure to sign up to our mailing list at www.pre-script.com to get the first updates on new programming releases. You can also follow Dr. Jordan Shallow and Dr. Jordan Jiunta on Instagram! Dr. Jordan Shallow: https://www.instagram.com/the_muscle_doc/ Dr. Jordan Jiunta: https://www.instagram.com/redwiteandjordan/ Welcome Jay Jones (00:00:00) D1 Football & Harsh Realities (00:01:15) Identity Beyond the Game (00:02:56) Losing Confidence and Quitting the Dream (00:09:18) From Corporate Climb to Collapse (00:16:04) Rock Bottom and the Hustler’s Grind (00:23:10) The Plasma Moment (00:27:34) A New Direction: Joining the Marines at 30 (00:33:01) Getting Accepted After Being Denied (00:44:09) Marine Corps Reality Check (00:49:21) Staying Jay in a Uniform (00:51:15)