Fleetwood Mac vs Peter Green

The guys go looking for songs that bands wrote about being mad at their managers and record labels and come back covered in Southern rock, British bombast, and a little punk attitude.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:https://www.npr.org/2019/11/15/779753813/songs-against-the-suitshttps://americansongwriter.com/the-meaning-behind-why-cant-i-by-liz-phair-and-why-she-may-have-been-ahead-of-her-time/https://meetinmontauk.com/2019/01/27/song-of-the-day-3859-one-down-live-ben-folds/https://www.loudersound.com/features/how-i-divered-lynyrd-skynyrd-by-al-kooperhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Kooperhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynyrd_Skynyrdhttps://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/lynyrd-skynyrds-new-if-i-leave-here-tomorrow-doc-10-things-we-learned-630575/Al Kooper interview: https://youtu.be/rP0wcXXe1zE?si=GAua0nrjeoW2q8-Dhttps://wcsx.com/2023/08/12/lynyrd-skynyrd-simple-man-ronnie-fought-to-get-it-on-the-album/https://www.reddit.com/r/musictheory/comments/e6f8a3/sweet_home_alabama_is_in_d/https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1CERyhdJyq/https://oneweekoneband.tumblr.com/post/51568795029/workin-for-mca-when-the-rock-roll-dreamshttps://thinkinginyoursleep.com/sweet-home-alabama-from-dream-to-mega-hit/https://ultimateclassicrock.com/lynyrd-skynyrd-gimme-back-my-bullets/https://ultimateclassicrock.com/lynyrd-skynyrd-nuthin-fancy/https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/queen-song-to-get-back-at-management/https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Sheffieldhttps://medium.com/@daviddesola/what-bohemian-rhapsody-gets-right-and-wrong-d04b5af410d1https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trident_Studioshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_(band)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_ControlSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock follow the story of Fleetwood Mac from album 5 through 9, tracing the path of infights, sexual liaisons, and imposters that led to Mick Fleetwood finally meeting Lindsey Buckingham.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:The Mark Blake book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Dreams/Mark-Blake/9781639367320https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Welch_(musician)https://themeggiesue.substack.com/p/tms-muse-of-the-week-judy-wonghttps://classicrockforpoc.tumblr.com/post/137364959800/groupie-jewel-eyed-judy-wong-43https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Gameshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Kirwanhttps://www.spectacularoptical.ca/2018/06/rip-danny-kirwan-fleetwood-macs-drunk-muppet/https://www.npr.org/2018/06/11/618869222/fleetwood-macs-forgotten-hero-guitarist-danny-kirwan-has-diedhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Weston_(guitarist)https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/mar/30/jenny-boyd-mick-fleetwood-jennifer-juniper-its-not-what-you-think-behind-the-star-studded-life-of-a-rock-stars-wifehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifford_Davis_(music_manager)Original Rolling Stone reporting on fake Mac: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/fleetwood-mac-flak-manager-takes-name-not-members-on-tour-233735/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stretch_(band)Weston on being a scape goat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w-p3uxFSkohttps://pleasekillme.com/fakewood-mac/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_Are_Hard_to_FindSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock go way back to start breaking down the details of who and what made up Fleetwood Mac for the seven years before Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham showed up.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTESThe Mark Blake book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Dreams/Mark-Blake/9781639367320https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleetwood_Machttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mayall_%26_the_Bluesbreakershttps://alanpaul.substack.com/p/its-a-hard-road-john-mayall-jasonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Spencerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleetwood_Mac_(1968_album)https://www.wpr.org/culture/fleetwood-mac-mark-blake-dreamshttps://www.musicradar.com/news/early-fleetwood-mac-5-peter-green-jeremy-spencer-danny-kirwanhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Then_Play_Onhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiln_Househttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Welch_(musician)See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock chronicle Bruce's struggle to breakthrough to the mainstream at the end of the 1970s- and the hits he gave away along the way. Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTEShttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Springsteenhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramoneshttps://faroutmagazine.co.uk/when-joey-ramone-asked-bruce-springsteen-for-a-song/https://www.app.com/story/news/history/2016/03/25/night-bruce-springsteen-met-ramones/82228748/“Hungry Heart” in the style of The Ramones:https://youtu.be/5tCMa7_liNA?si=IileU-_es5u2u3iNE-Street Shuffle piece with Joey Ramone interview videos, etc.: https://estreetshuffle.com/index.php/2022/12/21/roll-of-the-dice-hungry-heart/https://americansongwriter.com/5-songs-you-didnt-know-bruce-springsteen-wrote-that-were-made-famous-by-other-artists/How Manfred Man got access to Bruce’s songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv0kQ-VopnIhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Appelhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greetings_from_Asbury_Park,_N.J.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blinded_by_the_Lighthttps://medium.com/@rchamoff/blinded-by-the-light-is-complete-nonsense-201d31919c38https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Gordon_(singer)https://tedtockscovers.wordpress.com/2021/04/11/fire-the-boss-was-knocking-on-the-kings-door-musicislife-tedtockscovers-brucespringsteen-robertgordon-thepointersisters-shakinstevens-robinwilliams-linkwray/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_(Bruce_Springsteen_song)https://www.mprnews.org/story/2014/03/28/musichttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Because_the_Nighthttps://the-circuit.greasylake.org/index.php?/topic/155283-patti-smith-talking-about-because-the-night-and-bruce/Brian’s 2023 appearance talking about Sire Records on Only Three Lads: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1DqU34hgE3qb7SSCYzlZdS?si=65k6Va-uR72dzfMG9CpdpwSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock dig into the history of MTV's unlikely smash hit that resurrected careers and created a new revenue line for loud bands willing to turn down the volume.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:I WANT MY MTV - The Book: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/308409/i-want-my-mtv-by-rob-tannenbaum/https://www.impericon.com/blogs/magazine/when-metal-bands-pull-the-plug-unplugged-and-acoustic-projectshttps://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ve-seen-million-faces-ve-120710082.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stray_Gatorshttps://www.thisisdig.com/feature/harvest-moon-neil-young-album/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_Robertshttps://www.facebook.com/groups/266465700545777/posts/1727363401122659/https://americansongwriter.com/on-this-day-in-1988-mtv-refused-to-play-neil-youngs-this-notes-for-you-for-a-pretty-silly-reason/Internet Archive – Neil Young MTV Unplugged 2/7/93https://archive.org/details/neil-young-mtv-unpluggedFaceOff Rock Show Neil Young’s Second Attempt on MTV Unplugged. https://en.faceoffrockshow.com/post/neil-young-second-attempt-on-mtv-unplugged-1How Neil Got It Right The Second Timehttps://ultimateclassicrock.com/neil-young-unplugged/12 Unforgettable Unplugged Performanceshttps://ultimateclassicrock.com/top-mtv-unplugged-episodes/Did Neil Young run out of his Unplugged tapinghttp://forum.cakewalk.com/m/tm.aspx?m=3163911&p=1Fandom Wiki Neilhttps://music.fandom.com/wiki/Unplugged:Neil_YoungUnplugged: Full Albumhttps://youtu.be/BSOItCgL-CE?si=k-ry5jw51_VnOOHcSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock dig at the roots of "Mrs. Robinson" only to end up on a journey through 70s cinema, childhood friendships, and especially petty songwriting.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTEShttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Nicholshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Graduatehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Webb_(author)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Turmanhttps://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/07/arts/lawrence-turman-dead.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_E._Levinehttps://medium.com/@jacobdowning/nichols-and-simon-and-garfunkel-cde5b6f03db5https://valentinamariesemler.substack.com/p/revisiting-the-graduatehttps://www.openculture.com/2021/02/paul-simon-deconstructs-mrs-robinson-1970.htmlhttps://www.thecurrent.org/feature/2015/06/01/today-in-music-historyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundtrackhttps://faroutmagazine.co.uk/first-pop-song-used-in-a-movieDick Cavett interview: https://youtu.be/sDqIsuIpVy4?si=Fb9MZGCEaq29IKPBhttps://www.openculture.com/2021/02/paul-simon-deconstructs-mrs-robinson-1970.htmlhttps://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/feb/12/art-garfunkel-paul-simonSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock answer a letter asking for the backstory on what went down between the two big personalities inside The Smiths - Steven Morrissey and Johnny Marr.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTEShttps://consequence.net/2025/06/johnny-marr-smiths-reunion-vibes/https://www.vinylmeplease.com/blogs/music-industry-news/johnny-marr-rejects-smiths-reunion-offer-a-look-at-artistic-integrity-and-band-dynamicshttps://www.billboard.com/music/rock/the-smiths-johnny-marr-reunion-offer-turned-down-1236003199https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/morrissey-turned-down-mega-bucks-smiths-reunion-offer-over-johnny-marr-96578/https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jan/26/morrissey-accuses-johnny-marr-clickbaitJohny Marr’s book: Set the Boy Free: https://www.amazon.com/Set-Free-Autobiography-Johnny-Marr/dp/0062438697Morrissey’s book: Autobiography: https://www.amazon.com/Autobiography-Morrissey/dp/014310750X/ref=sr_1_1Tony Fletcher’s book: A Light That Never Goes Out:https://www.amazon.com/Light-That-Never-Goes-Out/dp/0307715965Chuck Klosterman’s IV (which contains the August 2002 SPIN article): https://www.amazon.com/Chuck-Klosterman-IV-Curious-Dangerous/dp/0743284895https://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/artists/morrissey-johnny-marr-hate/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cilla_Blackhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Work_Is_a_Four-Letter_Wordhttps://www.rhino.com/article/deep-dive-cilla-black-the-smiths-work-is-a-four-letter-wordhttps://smiths.fandom.com/wiki/Joyce_v_Morrissey_%26_Ors#:~:text=In%20March%201989%2C%20Joyce%20and,and%20understood%20the%20royalty%20deal.https://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/news1296.htmhttps://www.salon.com/2024/08/30/a-history-of-the-smiths-beef-morrissey-and-johnny-marrs-political-divide/https://www.brooklynvegan.com/morrissey-claims-johnny-marr-acquired-trademark-intellectual-property-rights-for-the-smiths-name/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CJ%20Marr%20has%20successfully%20applied,yet%20another%20Smiths%20best%2Dof.https://x.com/Johnny_Marr/status/1836103851666993170https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/does-the-mexican-american-community-still-love-morrissey-despite-everything/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock explore the rumor that Lennon's last album might have had some musical support from a certain set of Midwestern power-poppers.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSHOW NOTESCheap Trick In Color with Steve Albini producinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bsT3EWlsJM&list=PLvLuPYa2vgAsbNg5NhnEBx2N1GgV28nX6Interview with Rick Nielsen about working with Lennonhttps://lasvegassun.com/blogs/kats-report/2009/sep/13/nielsen-original/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CI'm%20Losing%20You%E2%80%9D%20was%20knocked%20out%20in%20two,%2C%20never%2Dhappened%20things.%E2%80%9D“Rick and Ben” on the Double Fantasy experience (this is cartoon spoof is barely a minute, animated and funny, but not actually Rick and Ben)https://youtu.be/BHGTkWNsOcU?si=bQut-fIhOoNS4ozHAll About the Hit Factoryhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hit_FactoryMorris Levy wikihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_LevyDouble Fantasy Session MusiciansTony Levin-Bass-biohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_LevinAndy Newmark-drumshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Newmark“I’m losing you” outtake from Double FantasyLennon with Rick and Ben from Cheap Trickhttps://youtu.be/BZae6fbxItI?si=D8uPkEvxmxVrqxpIMotley Crue headlining with Cheap Trick opening 1986, SHEFFIEEEELD, England.“Ten Seconds to Love”https://youtu.be/8hWnUsyTtik?si=vSMfF2vUpvmGkSOyKid Rock intros Cheap Trick into the RNR Hall of Famehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjxkpoqM3Q8&t=367sHighway to Krellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf0Pa2iyOEA&list=RDpf0Pa2iyOEA&start_radio=1See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock get a listener request to revisit the life, trials, and absolute chaos that came to define the finest country music singer of all time - George Jones.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSHOW NOTESThe George Jones & Tom Carter book: I Lived to Tell it AllGeorge Jones On The Reccord with Ralph Emery:https://youtu.be/BPoH39J-LWU?si=SV-7SNHBXToi18sMMike Judge’s Tales from the Tour Bus:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPA5iWmbYtYBad Cock will Treat You Right:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmm7nvCpNAMHeartbreaking stories about George: https://www.factinate.com/people/george-jones/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock talk about discovering the first Boston album and dive into the fascinating and upsetting story of the two men who defined their sound and personified their struggles. CONTENT WARNING: This episode contains mention of suicide and abuse after the 34 minute mark. If you are suffering with thoughts of depression and hopelessness and considering harming yourself, please seek help.Additionally, we ask all listeners to consider visiting and supporting the work of To Write Love on Her Arms.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSHOW NOTES:http://rockandrollgarage.com/how-boston-tom-scholz-made-their-entire-debut-album-in-his-basement/https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/exclusive-interview-bostons-tom-scholz-remembers-bradley-delp-94896/https://www.thirdstage.ca/boston/the-band/former-members/brad-delphttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Goudreauhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Scholzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Delphttps://www.loudersound.com/features/how-boston-flew-so-high-and-fell-so-farhttps://www.rcfp.org/briefs-comments/scholz-v-boston-herald/The actual court decision on Scholz vs the Herald: https://www.rcfp.org/wp-content/uploads/imported/2014-05-02-scholz-v-boston-herald.pdfArchive of lawsuit briefs/decisions/documents: https://www.thirdstage.ca/boston/articles/legal-documentshttps://ultimateclassicrock.com/brad-delp-suicide/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Boston_band_membersThe Boston Herald piece with important parts highlighted: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/525ed589e4b07b05fff51e46/t/585b2884725e25b52bb8eaf4/1482369156574/Boston+Herald+Reporting.pdfhttp://archive.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2012/05/27/boston_singer_brad_delps_final_days_marked_by_crisis_over_hidden_camera/ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.