220. SEAN RASPET & LAURA SISSON [PATINA] ~ The Quest to Create the Next ISO E Super.

In search of the next great aromachemical (think of predecessors like ISO E Super, Cashmeran, Galaxolide, etc...), Patina Co-Founders Sean Raspet and Laura Sisson spend their days in the lab testing and developing new molecules. What does that mean? What is scent design and how does it work? And—in the same way every color has its own immutable RGB code, can we empiricize smells? Laura and Sean hope to do just that.FRAGS MENTIONED:Dior Thé Cachemire (SOTD), Chambre52 Contra Ta Peau, Guerlain L'Heure Bleue (2026), Zoologist Squid, Viktor & Rolf Spicebomb, Tauer L'Air du Desert Marocain, Frederic Malle Carnal Flower, Anti Rosa Antiqua, Patina: Metalox, Olivine, Ozocure, Ocean Simulation, Peppercess, Silterra; Chanel No. 5, Patina Nopalia

Logos, slogans, jingle--they all matter, but Beauty Exec-turned-Founder Caroline Fabrigas knows that the next (and most impactful) frontier in branding is scent. Through her company Scent Marketing Inc., she's developed everything from iconic hotel scents (The 1 Hotel, Baccarat Hotel, and Auberge Resorts), to retail spaces, med spas, amusement park rides—even 20 blocks of 5th Avenue. Where money can be spent, scent can be smelled.Today we chat about scent as a means of branding, how Caroline got into this business, and how she reimagines her client's brands through the lens of smell. scentmarketinginc.com | ⁠scentfluence.com⁠ | @scentmarketingincSOTD: Chambre 52 Contre Ta Peau (get 10% off LuckyScent sample with code: perfumeroom) BOOK A SCENT STYLING SESSION W ME: linktr.ee/emmavernFRAGS MENTIONED: Chambre 52 Contre Ta Peau, Penhaligon's Fortuitous Finley, Comme des Garcons Odeur du Theatre du Chatelet Act I, Headspace Sauge, La Perla Once Upon a Garden, Celine Saint-Germain-Des-Prés, Dior Bois D'Argent, Abercrombie Fierce, Hollister Socal, Wayfair Perfect Weekend, Dior Eau Sauvage, Estée Lauder: Youth Dew, Cinnabar; Revlon Charlie, The One Hotel signature scent, Guerlain Shalimar, Chopard Casmir

Within hours of launch, Influxious sold out of all inventory on Sephora.com. The next day it sold out again on the Influxious site. The visionary behind this booming and blooming brand? It's the one, the only, Queen-of-PerfumeTok-turned-Founder, Funmi Monet of course.She's in the Perfume Room this week sharing the behind-the-scenes of building her brand, the importance of picking the right partners, the double standard she faces as a Black-owned perfume house, the *sheinification* of TikTok, and what the future holds.SOTDs:Gap Dream (2026) and Fragrancias Pittoro Pittoro de MangoFRAGS MENTIONED:Influxious Gold Standard, High life, Well Loved, Magic Hour; MFK Baccarat Rouge 540, Kayali Yum Boujee Marshmallow, Le Labo Santal 33BOOK A SCENT STYLING SESSION WITH ME: linktr.ee/emmavern

Julien Rasquinet, Senior Perfumer at CPL Aromas, had an incredibly fortuitous path to perfumery, and it began with a chance meeting at an airport. Today, he is one of the most prolific and successful perfumers of all time, and when you hear his story, you'll understand why. We chat about creating the perfect rose, where AI falls short, his least favorite kind of client briefs, the behind-the-scenes stories of your (my) fave perfumes, and how following his nose across the world led him to exactly where he was meant to be [our perfume shelves!]. SOTD: Veronique Gabai Noire de Mai FRAG MENTIONED: Nishane Thorns become Roses, Estée Lauder Pleasures, Dior J’Adore, Davidoff Cool Water, BDK Tabac Rose, Naomi Goodsir: Iris Cendre, Bois d’Ascese, Cuir Velours; Creed Royal OudSMELL CLUB: summerinabottle.eventbrite.comBOOK A SCENT STYLING SESSION: stele.nyc/products/scent-styling-emma-vernonEDITOR NOTE: In 2025, Perfumer/Founder Maya Njie released a perfume called Aethi Opum, inspired by her own Gambian and Senegalese roots, with a gowé accord. The idea of gowé was something she had discussed with CPL Aromas a few years prior.

Fragrance and fashion legend Narciso Rodriguez joins me in the Perfume Room this week!!!! (REQUIRED LISTENING.)Two-time recipient of the CFDA Womenswear Designer of the Year as well as the Lifetime Achievement Award AND recipient of 2003 TFA Best New Fragrance Award (for For Her) (among many others), Narciso has received the highest honors for his contributions in both industries. He is able to capture important moments in time in ways that transcend it. Some of his most seminal creations include Carolyn Bessette Kennedy's wedding gown, Michelle Obama's 2008 Election Night dress, and in fragrance, For Her, which is largely credited with modernizing musk for the 21st century.Today we chat about everything from how he cultivated his own signature (and what that signature is), to how his fashion and fragrance sensibilities are one in the same, his special friendship with CBK and what the media has gotten right and wrong,some never-before-told behind-the-scenes stories surrounding the creation of Narciso Rodriguez fragrances, and of course, what lies ahead.Ed. Note: I'M STILL NOT OVER THIS EPISODE!!FOLLOW: @narciso_rodriguezFRAGS MENTIONED:Capucci Pour Homme, Lagerfeld For Men, Narciso Rodriguez For Her, JPG Le Male, Narciso Rodriguez Poudree, Egyptian musk oil, Jovan Musk, Narciso Rodriguez: Pure Musc, Essence, Musc Noir SOTD: Voyage D'Hermes SCENT STYLING STELE (Aug 2): linktr.ee/emmavern

Husband-and-wife duo Isaac Lekach and Lillian Shalom have spent the past few years developing fragrances for other brands. With El Morocco Perfumery, it's finally their turn.In an attempt to recreate the magic of cafe society (and the legendary club for which the brand is named), the pair approached this project like archivists, collecting every handkerchief, matchbook, and photo they could get their hands on. What began as a mission to be historically accurate became a reimagining of what fragrance bottle and packaging design could be.FRAGS MENTIONED:El Morocco Perfumery: Gala, Highball for Lucius B; Escentric Molecules Molecule 01, Animale Animale, Mugler Angel for Men, Stork Club, El Morocco Perfumery: 154, Gala, Highball for Lucius B, Lulu’s Back in Town, Two Cigarettes in the DarkSOTD: Future Society Rain TeaBOOK A SCENT CONSULT W ME: linktr.ee/emmavern

Decorated MANE Senior Perfume Mathilde Bijaoui, and veteran evaluation exec Lauren Shyman are in the Perfume Room this week!How do perfumers and evaluators work together behind the scenes to create the juice we smell in our most cherished perfume bottles? Enjoy this an intimate (and fun!) look at the professional and personal relationship between a high-level perfumer and evaluator.FOLLOW: @mane_1871_ @mathilde.bijaoui.perfumer @thelaurshyGET TIX TO SMELLS LIKE LOVE! linktr.ee/emmavernSOTD: ⁠Aedes de Venustas Signature⁠FRAGS MENTIONED:Bond No. 9 Madison Ave., Bath & Body Works Whipped Coconut Milkshake, Penhaligon’s Lily and Spice, Jo Malone Poppy & Barley, Snif 2%, Byredo Bal d’Afrique, Glossier You, Jo Malone Yuja/Yuzu Zest Cologne, L’Artisan Mure et Musc, Snif Crumb Couture, Jo Malone English Fields Collection (Primrose & Rye), Mugler Alien, Giorgio, Carolina Herrera Good Girl, YSL Opium, Mugler Angel, Narciso For Her, BR540, Chanel Egoiste, CK Eternity, Davidoff Cool Water, Cacharel Anais Anais, Giorgio, Opium, Aromatics Elixir, Elizabeth Taylor White Diamonds, Dana Canoe, Victoria's Secret Vanilla Lace, Eau de Bonpoint, Mure et Musc, Dior Eau Sauvage, Rochas Eau de Rochas, Hermes Caleche, Chanel No. 19, Paul Sebastian Design, Gap Dream, Heaven; DK Cashmere Mist, CKOne, Drakkar Noir, ELdO Like This

Sebastian Jara is not new to this [fragrance content]; he's true this. Since 2012, he's been creating videos, and today his YT channel boasts over 335K subscribers. Now he's onto the next venture. After years of attending perfume trade shows all over the world, Sebastian has created his own and it's called ScentFEST. And the inaugural show is happening in just 3 weeks in SF! (June 26-28, 2026)We chat all about what can you expect at the show, highlights from his 6000-bottle personal collection, the evolution of fragrance content over the last decade, and all the roads that led him here!FOLLOW: @theperfumeguy (on all channels)~PERFUME ROOM WEST COAST TOUR OF LOVE!~linktr.ee/emmavernStop 1 ~ LA: Smells Like Love (June 20) NOW CASTING!Stop 2 ~ Monterey: WPC (June 22-25)Stop 3 ~ SF: ScentFEST (June 26-28)****SOTD: Parfums MDCI Un Coeur en Mai (get 10% off code: perfumeroom)FRAGS MENTIONED:Angelos Créations Olfactives Soma Panorama, EM Molecule 01, Alrehab Choco Musk, YSL Rive Gauche, Madame Rochas, YSL Opium, Polo Green, Caron Pour Un Homme, Pierre Cardin, Guy Laroche Drakkar Noir, Chrome Azzaro, JPG Le Male, D&G Pour Homme, Jo Malone: Orange Blossom, Vetyver, Black Vetyver Cafe, Blue Agave & Cacao, Lime Basil & Mandarin, Pomegranate Noir, Wild Fig & Cassis; Mugler A*Men, Cologne; Penhaligon’s, Annick Goutal, Mugler Angel, Sarah Baker Jungle Jezebel, Massimo Dutti White Evening, Jusbox Fifty Four, BLNDGRPHY Vanilla Mudslide, Trudon 45°, Sarah Baker VaVa Vanilla, Dusita Light of Bangkok, Pesad Orris Cocoon, Dior Homme (orig.), Hugo Boss Bottled Absolu, Le Male Elixir, Loumari Radanfor, JPG Le Male, Guerlain Guerlinade, Jean-Louis Scherrer, Lancome Magie Noire, Hermes Eau d’Orange Verte, Eau de Gucci, Carine Roitfeld Carine, Houbigant Fougère Royale (1884), Coty Ambre Antique (1904), Chanel No. 5 (1921), Guerlain Mitsouko (1919), Caron Tabac Blond (1919), Molinard Habinita (1924), kyphi from ancient Egypt 

Stop. what. you're. doing. DOMINIQUE ROPION IS IN THE PERFUME ROOM TODAY. FRAGS MENTIONED:Frederic Malle: Carnal Flower, Portrait of a Lady, Geranium Pour Monsieur; Mugler Alien, Lancome La Vie Est Belle, Givenchy L’Interdit, Frederic Malle Portrait of a Lady, Givenchy Ysatis, Aphorismes Innocent Tuberose, Frederic Malle Carnal Flower, Aphorismes A Rose is a Rose, Frederic Malle Portrait of a Lady ⁠linktr.ee/emmavern⁠WEST COAST TOUR OF LOVE:LA: Smells Like Love (6/20)Monterey: World Perfumery Congress (6/22-25)SF: ScentFEST (6/26-28)SINGLE? APPLY TO BE A DATER!

World-renowned expert on the psychological science of smell, neuroscientist Dr. Rachel Herz is in the Perfume Room this week!Bookmark this episode; you'll want to come back to it!Why are you attracted to the way certain people smell and what role does scent really play in attraction? Is your partner's perfume hiding potential red flags?! What can you to improve your sense of smell (especially after smell loss), and how can you use smell to make healthier food choices? Plus, is climate change messing up our noses? AND SO MUCH MORE!!!!⁠www.rachelherz.com⁠DR. HERZ'S BOOKS:Why You Eat What You EatThe Scent of DesireThat's DisgustingFRAGS MENTIONED:Lise Watier Neiges, Cacharel Anais Anais, F. Millot Crêpe de Chine, Chanel No. 5!!!ROSE SMELL CLUB!!! ⁠rosesmellclub.eventbrite.com⁠MY SOTD: D'ORSAY⁠ Vouloir Etre Ailleurs CG⁠ ('perfumeroom' for 10% off)