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Most people spend their lives trying to avoid mistakes, but restaurateur Danny Meyer, the visionary behind Shake Shack and Union Square Hospitality Group, believes that failure is actually the greatest teacher we have. In this moving conversation from Making Space with Hoda Kotb, Danny Meyer pulls back the curtain on the hardest moments of his career and what it takes to bounce back when everything falls apart. He and Hoda explore his new memoir, What Could Possibly Go Right?, discussing why putting your employees first, trusting your gut, and asking the right question can completely change your life. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Culinary icon and bestselling author Ina Garten believes that our hardest chapters do not have to define our destiny. In this deeply moving conversation from Making Space, Ina sits down to pull back the curtain on her remarkable journey, from navigating a painful childhood, choosing authenticity, and reinventing her life and career at 78. She explores the power of leaving the past behind, building a life entirely on your own terms, and proving that your most defining chapter can happen at any age. This episode is about resilience, courage, grace, and finding peace by embracing your true self. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

If you look solely at the success of her body of work, you’d never guess Oscar-nominated actress Rosie Perez is dealing with the effects of her painful childhood. But over the course of her career and life, Rosie has chosen to focus on the good. In this final episode of the season, Rosie reflects on her own strength and resilience, and she looks back fondly at those who believed in her. Raw and honest, Rosie is making space for healing. She always knew she’d make it, after hearing her conversation with Hoda, you’ll see why.  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Powerhouse actresses and producers Nicole Kidman and Sandra Bullock believe that our hardest seasons are often where we discover our truest strength. In this deeply moving and funny conversation from Making Space, Nicole and Sandra sit down with Hoda Kotb to pull back the curtain on the lessons they’ve learned from caregiving and raising teenagers with grace. They explore the beauty of evolving past public expectations, redefining family on your own terms, and choosing to lead with love and gratitude. This episode is about resilience, legacy, grace, and finding peace in the circle of life. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Pastor Michael Todd is the leader of the Transformation Church in Tulsa, Oklahoma. This dynamic 34 year-old speaks to the power we all have to transform our own lives, turning the impossible into the reachable. He joins Hoda for an honest, high-energy and invigorating conversation, touching on topics from renewing relationships to overcoming struggles from the past. As Pastor Todd has seen in his life—and hopefully you will see in yours after listening—an idea, goal or a vision is only crazy until it happens. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Best-selling author Anne Lamott knows a thing about overcoming obstacles. Thirty-five years on the other side of her addiction, Anne is the author of 19 books, a mother, grandmother, and in her 60s, a wife for the first time. Anne offers wisdom, candidly, and often, hilariously. She shares what she calls "operating instructions": how to master a life of peace and gratitude—a reminder that grace always meets you exactly where you are. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Most people spend their lives trying to follow a clear roadmap, but Peloton instructor, best-selling author, and Nike athlete Tunde Oyeneyin believes that true freedom is found by stepping beyond fear and trusting your gut. In this deeply moving and funny conversation from Making Space, Tunde sits down with Hoda Kotb to pull back the curtain on her powerful journey from enduring painful childhood bullying and severe self-doubt to finding her voice, surviving the profound losses of her father, brother, and mother, and discovering a life-changing vision for her future on a cycling bike. This episode is about resilience, reinvention, and learning to love the person staring back in the mirror. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Most people spend their lives trying to follow a clear roadmap, but legendary journalist and author Joan Lunden believes that true resilience is found by stepping beyond the script. In this deeply moving conversation from Making Space, Joan sits down with Hoda Kotb to pull back the curtain on her nearly 20-year run as the longest running female host on morning television, the early heartbreak of losing her father at age 13, and the realities of being a working mother. She and Hoda explore the balance between public scrutiny and personal triumph, discussing her iconic bald People magazine cover during her breast cancer battle. This episode is about resilience, reinvention, and what it really means to embrace a life that others never expected. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Most people spend their lives trying to follow a clear roadmap, but model, author, and advocate Emma Heming Willis believes that life's hardest seasons are often where we find our true purpose. In this deeply moving conversation from Making Space, Emma sits down with Hoda Kotb to pull back the curtain on navigating her husband Bruce Willis's frontotemporal dementia (FTD) diagnosis, breaking through the heavy isolation of caregiving, and learning how to ask for help before the ecosystem of care bottoms out. She and Hoda explore the delicate balance between grief and joy, embracing spontaneity, and allowing cracks of light to shine through matter in a world that often feels heavy. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Most people spend their lives trying to find a relationship that works, but psychotherapist and bestselling author Esther Perel believes that just living day to day isn't the same as truly feeling alive. In this deeply moving conversation from Making Space, the relationship expert sits down with Hoda Kotb to pull back the curtain on why passion often fades in partnerships and how couples can bridge the distance when they start to drift apart. She and Hoda explore the delicate balance between love and desire, discussing why the space we keep, the mystery we preserve, and the ways we ignite ourselves matter in a world that often feels contactless. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.