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The Business of Building Culture & Scaling a Design Firm 10x — Carrie Hawley & Teal Brogden, HLB

19/05/2026
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What does it take to build a culture that outlives the people who shaped it? In this episode of LytePOD, host Sam Koerbel sits down with Carrie Hawley and Teal Brogden, co-leaders of HLB Lighting Design — one of the world's most influential architectural lighting design firms — to unpack the business of building, scaling, and leading a design firm that's built to last. This is a candid, deeply human conversation about firm culture, shared leadership, mentorship, and what it really means to lead with the intention of putting yourself out of a job. Carrie and Teal walk through the 10-year planning cycles that guide HLB's evolution, the quarterly mentoring rhythms that develop the next generation of lighting leaders, and why growth is intentional but always people-focused. 💡 Key topics: - How culture is built through daily actions — not slogans — and what that means for hiring, leadership, and strategic planning - Why shared leadership requires vulnerability over control, and meeting in person to facilitate advances (not retreats) - HLB's 10-year planning cycles — and why every career stage shapes the firm's future - Growth plans vs. professional success plans — and why soft skills outweigh technical ones at the senior level - Quarterly mentoring check-ins that replace traditional annual reviews - Why every micro team inside HLB has its own mission statement - Radical candor, crucial conversations, and approaching conflict with curiosity - Why the goal of leadership is to put yourself out of a job Whether you're a design firm principal, a young designer figuring out where you fit, or a lighting professional thinking about the business of lighting design — this conversation offers a rare, honest look at the intentionality and humility required to build a firm that lasts. 🎙️ Listen now to learn why great leadership isn't about control — it's about creating space for others to lead. learn more: https://hlblighting.com/ ❤️ Big appreciation for the partners who support this work and trust the vision. They believe in thoughtful conversations, strong community, and letting designers' voices lead. Grateful to build this together. 1️⃣ Eureka Lighting - https://watch.lytei.com/EurekaRabbitHole 2️⃣ Kelvix - https://watch.lytei.com/Kelvix 3️⃣ LEDflex - https://watch.lytei.com/LEDFLEX 4️⃣ Diode LED - https://watch.lytei.com/diode 5️⃣ Targetti USA - https://bit.ly/targettiusa Chapters 00:00:00 Opening: Does the Company Shape Us or Do We Shape the Company? 00:01:37 Sponsor Spotlight 00:02:47 Culture of Learning: Growth is Intentional and People-Focused 00:04:08 Legacy by Choice: Building Beyond Ourselves 00:07:29 Navigating the Hard Stuff: Communication and Conflict 00:12:49 Specialists and Expertise: Elevating the Entire Team 00:15:00 The North Star: Pursuing Design Excellence Globally 00:19:31 Strategic Planning: 10-Year Cycles and Inclusive Voices 00:23:16 Sponsor Spotlight: Kelvix, Lead Flex, and Diode LED 00:25:33 Empowerment Through Consensus: Not Command and Control 00:27:56 Radical Candor and Crucial Conversations 00:30:45 Sponsor Spotlight: Tarjeti USA 00:31:33 Rhythms of Connection: Mentoring, Growth Plans, and Town Halls 00:37:37 Boutique Studios Within a Whole: Strength in Diversity

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