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Episode 4:16: Super PCMan

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Coming up in this episode * Themes Are More Global Than You Think * Kdenlive Does Some Layering * The History of LXDE * To Qt, or not to Qt? * Then, we call an audible 0:00 Cold Open 2:17 Theme of the Crop 16:22 The Lost Edit 28:11 The History of LXDE 55:51 How'd LXQt and LXDE Go? 1:24:28 Next Time 1:31:13 Stinger The Video Version https://youtu.be/Y8_rMTmnIXc 🔥Warm Up🔥 - AI on the Linux Desktop KDE's Attack Surface? Hackaday coverage (https://hackaday.com/2024/03/25/user-beware-the-fine-line-between-content-and-code/) The Reddit Post (https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/1bixmbx/do_not_install_global_themes_some_wipe_out_all/) Kdenlive gave Leo a hard time 24.02.0 (https://kdenlive.org/en/2024/03/kdenlive-24-02-0-released/) was hot off the press and Leo couldn't resist. Thankfully 24.02.1 (https://kdenlive.org/en/2024/03/kdenlive-24-02-1-released/) followed to hopefully resolve the issues. 📣Announcements📣 This program was made possible by: * 📺️Youtube (https://youtube.com/linuxuserspace) * 📽️TILvids (https://tilvids.com/a/linuxuserspace) * And by contributions to your L-U-S station by Patrons (https://patreon.com/linuxuserspace) like you 😍 The History of LXDE (and some LXQt) The LXDE mailing list goes back to 2008 (https://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/lxde-list/) Ubuntu Lite (https://web.archive.org/web/20071213180659/http://ubuntulite.https://web.archive.org/web/20090126190042/http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5187661383.htmltuxfamily.org/?q=node/5) later known as U-lite commited (https://web.archive.org/web/20071213180659/http://ubuntulite.tuxfamily.org/?q=node/5) to using LXDE. DesktopLinux.com coverage (https://web.archive.org/web/20090207075132/http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS7428727466.html) Elemental Linux, MoonOS and WattOS followed with a commitment (https://web.archive.org/web/20120427050611/http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu) A PCManFM review from 2008 (https://web.archive.org/web/20220119114409/https://vivapinkfloyd.blogspot.com/2008/07/pcman-file-manager-045-review.html) The blog appears (https://blog.lxde.org/page/27/) December 2008 status update (https://blog.lxde.org/2008/12/10/recent-status-of-lxde/) Sidux adds an unofficial LXDE flavor (https://web.archive.org/web/20080929014208/http://cap.gediam.de/index-en.htm) Mandriva adds LXDE (https://web.archive.org/web/20081005023344/http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2009.0_Tour#LXDE) Fedora too (https://blog.lxde.org/2008/11/13/fedora-10-with-lxde/) LXDE Translation project (https://blog.lxde.org/2008/12/14/lxde-translation-project/) PCMan asks the community for feedback (https://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?t=456) FOSDEM 2009 (https://www.slideshare.net/mariobehling/lxde-presentation-at-fosdem-2009?type=presentation) Lubuntu enters the chat (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/02/05/lubuntu-lxde-meet-up-with-mark-shuttleworth-in-berlin) LXDE on android phones (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/02/23/lxde-running-on-android-phones/) LXDE on Solaris (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/03/21/lxde-on-opensolaris/) LXDE in Centos (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/05/04/lxde-in-centos/) PCLXDE (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/08/06/pclxde/) First Lubuntu test ISO (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/08/31/first-lubuntu-test-iso-available/) Fedora success (https://blog.lxde.org/2009/12/15/huge-success-of-the-fedora-12-lxde-spin/) OpenSUSE status update (https://blog.lxde.org/2010/03/01/opensuse-lxde-development-status/) Refactor time (https://blog.lxde.org/2010/02/21/pcmanfm-0-9-alpha-is-released/) Rewrite, and make it faster (https://blog.lxde.org/2010/03/19/the-first-beta-release-of-new-pcmanfmlibfm/) Movable desktop icons (https://blog.lxde.org/2010/10/05/desktop-icons-of-pcmanfm-becomes-movable/) LXDE becomes an available Debian desktop (https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopInLenny) A Qt port begins (https://blog.lxde.org/2013/02/19/pcmanfm-file-manager-is-ported-to-qt/) Diverse paths (https://blog.lxde.org/2013/03/26/pcmanfm-qt-0-1-0-released/) PCMan develops a "Guide for Migrating from Gtk+ to Qt" (https://blog.lxde.org/2013/04/25/a-guide-for-porting-gtk-applications-to-qt/) LXDE-QT preview (https://blog.lxde.org/2013/07/03/lxde-qt-preview/) Razor-Qt (https://www.pcworld.com/article/461673/five-reasons-to-try-the-new-razor-qt-linux-desktop.html) PCMan had this to say about Razor-Qt (https://groups.google.com/g/razor-qt/c/aRfqM_W_ODQ) A merger of LXDE-Qt and Razor-Qt (https://blog.lxde.org/?p=1046) LXDE-Qt is not bloated (https://blog.lxde.org/2013/07/05/no-lxde-qt-is-not-bloated/) PCManFM-Qt was in a usable state (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/03/23/pcmanfm-qt-reaches-a-quite-usable-state/) LXQt alpha is announced (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/04/27/the-first-alpha-release-of-lxde-qt-or-lxqt-is-in-preparation/) shortly after it was announced (https://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/message/32310545/). Initial FreeBSD support (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/05/09/lxqt-got-initial-freebsd-support/) for LXQt Comparing Numbers (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/05/09/some-numbers-about-lxqt-for-those-who-are-curious/) LXQt got “full” Qt5 support (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/06/29/lxqt-now-has-full-qt5-support/) LXQt 0.8 released (https://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/message/32927295/) LXDE is still going (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/11/18/status-update-for-lxde/) We say goodbye (https://blog.lxde.org/2014/11/21/in-memory-of-razor-qt/) to Razor-qt The 0.9 release was caught on snags (https://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/message/33285634/) but eventually released (https://web.archive.org/web/20160113173328/http://lxqt.org/release/2015/02/08/release-0-9-0/) LXQt 0.10 followed (https://web.archive.org/web/20160112231402/https://lxqt.org/release/2015/11/02/release-0-10-0/) LXQt 0.11 released (https://web.archive.org/web/20161121064047/http://lxqt.org/release/2016/09/24/lxqt-011-et-al/) More stats (https://blog.lxde.org/2016/10/04/benchmark-memory-usage-lxqt-desktop-environment-vs-xfce/) LXQt 0.12.0 (https://web.archive.org/web/20171030182926/http://lxqt.org/release/2017/10/21/lxqt-0120/) LXQt 0.13.0 (https://web.archive.org/web/20190522094012/https://lxqt.org/release/2018/05/21/lxqt-0130/) The end for GTK 2 (https://blog.gtk.org/2020/12/16/gtk-4-0/) Debian, at the time, set the death date (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2018/11/msg00570.html) GTK 3 would end up being the target for LXDE (https://archlinux.org/groups/x86_64/lxde-gtk3/) LXQt 0.17 (https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/releases/tag/0.17.0) LXQt 1.0.0 was released! (https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/releases/tag/1.0.0) LXDE diehards are still keeping things alive for LXDE (https://github.com/lxde) LXQt 2.0 is planned to release in the usual April slot (https://lxqt-project.org/blog/2024/02/15/qt-6-and-wayland/) Speaking of Wayland (https://lxqt-project.org/blog/2024/04/09/wayland_faq/) Quick LXQt History (https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/wiki/History) More 📣Announcements📣 Want to have a topic covered or have some feedback? - send us an email, [email protected] OR jump on over to the open forum on Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show/c/forum) 🧹Housekeeping🧹 Catch all the great topics as they unfold on our Subreddit or our News channel on Discord or Lemmy. * 🗞️ Linux User Space Lemmy (https://lemmy.linuxuserspace.show) * 📰 Linux User Space subreddit (https://linuxuserspace.show/reddit) * ⌨️ Linux User Space Discord Server (https://linuxuserspace.show/discord) * 📲 Linux User Space Telegram (https://linuxuserspace.show/telegram) * ✉️ Linux User Space Matrix (https://linuxuserspace.show/matrix) * 📽️ Linux User Space Twitch (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitch) * 🐘 Linux User Space Mastodon (https://linuxuserspace.show/mastodon) * 📜 Linux User Space Twitter (https://linuxuserspace.show/twitter) * 📺️ Linux User Space TILVids (https://linuxuserspace.show/tilvids) Next Time Some topics and feedback. 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