140: Doug Wilson talks to Ross Douthat (Bad Faith Discussion, Part 2)

Sinister Christian Nationalist pastor Doug Wilson gets interviewed by chunky conservative media lolcow Ross Douthat.  Amazingly, the person who comes out of this horrifying development looking worst is... Sam Harris? CONTENT WARNINGS.  BECAUSE DOUG WILSON SAYING STUFF. EPISODE NOTES: Christian Nationalism vs Clown World | Interesting Times with Ross Douthat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAYWbbSeIhE Dogma, Tribe, and Truth (Sam Harris, Making Sense Ep. 449) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmtTAlbGv_M I Don't Speak German: 139: Bad Faith Discussion; Doug Wilson talks to Sam Harris https://idontspeakgerman.libsyn.com/139-bad-faith-discussion-doug-wilson-talks-to-sam-harris EXTRA NOTES re WILSON: Sons of Patriarchy Podcast - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@SonsofPatriarchy Inside the Church That Preaches 'Wives Need to Be Led with a Firm Hand' https://www.vice.com/en/article/inside-the-church-that-preaches-wives-need-to-be-led-with-a-firm-hand/ At Doug Wilson's DC Church Plant, 'Worship Is Warfare' - Christianity Today https://www.christianitytoday.com/2025/07/christ-church-dc-doug-wilson-pete-hegseth/ Doug Wilson: The New Right's Favorite Pastor - POLITICO https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/05/23/doug-wilson-new-right-pastor-hegseth-trump-officials-00355376 Examining Doug Wilson & Moscow - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@ExaminingMoscow Sexual Abuse is Inevitable in Christian Patriarchy; Just Take a Look at Doug Wilson's Christ Church, and its New 'Documentary' 'Eve in Exile: The Restoration of Femininity' | Religion Dispatches https://religiondispatches.org/2022/05/31/sexual-abuse-inevitable-christian-patriarchy-just-take-look-doug-wilsons-christ-church Culture war and the evangelical church: Doug Wilson's "No Quarter November" hit the mainstream this year. https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/12/evangelical-church-doug-wilson-idaho-culture-war-no-quarter-november.html Doug Wilson Says https://dougwilsonsays.com/ 5 Part interview with Doug Wilson at Darren Doane's podcast / channel https://www.youtube.com/@allmyfriendsareheretics1354/featured Doug Wilson's Religious Empire Expanding in the Northwest https://www.splcenter.org/resources/reports/doug-wilsons-religious-empire-expanding-northwest/ Rachel Shubin: Analyzing Douglas Wilson's Handling of the Steven Sitler and Jamin Wight Cases https://www.moscowid.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Analyzing-DWs-Response-to-Sitler-and-Wight-Cases.pdf Doug Wilson Archive | Champion of child rapists, Attacker of victims, Pastor of Christ Church in Moscow, Idaho, Presiding Minister of the Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches (CREC) https://dougwilsonarchive.wordpress.com/ Doug Wilson Believes - Quotes from the Moscow, Idaho Pastor https://dougwilsonbelieves.com/ Fundie Fridays: Doug Wilson, the Final Boss of Christian Nationalism https://youtu.be/6dhaNeJ9UDw?si=SbAJoNEqnhOg8ckF Confronting Doug Wilson - by Kristin Du Mez https://kristindumez.substack.com/p/confronting-doug-wilson In an Idaho college town, Doug Wilson envisions an American theocracy : Up First from NPR : NPR https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1224382120 Bible Experts React To Viral CNN Christian Segment | HuffPost UK Life https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/doug-wilson-pete-hegseth_l_689a2042e4b0be3f5edc4799 SHOW NOTES: Please consider donating to help us make the show and stay ad-free and independent.  Patrons get exclusive access to at least one full extra episode a month plus all backer-only back-episodes. Daniel's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/danielharper/posts Jack's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4196618&fan_landing=true IDSG Twitter: https://twitter.com/idsgpod Daniel's Twitter: @danieleharper Jack's (Locked) Twitter: @_Jack_Graham_ Jack's Bluesky: @timescarcass.bsky.social Daniel's Bluesky: @danielharper.bsky.social IDSG on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-dont-speak-german/id1449848509?ls=1    

Daniel and Jack pick through Sam Harris' disgracefully friendly interview with right-wing fundamentalist and Hegseth-inspirer, Christian Nationalist pastor Doug Wilson. Content Warnings Episode Notes: Harris's release of his interview with Wilson: https://youtu.be/kRQ6Tcw9maM?si=hQEOhfyk_V7jMoyS Note: At one point in our episode, Daniel states that Wilson also posted the interview with Harris on his own channel, and this seems to be a mistake.  Oops. Harris' response to his interview with Wilson: https://youtu.be/3qjNXaKjcc8?si=D_9Gkbq7PXKO7wnQ Wilson's response to the interview on his own channel: https://youtu.be/AWgWkZjbYRw?si=2KuiQcvoiVrSal08 Behind the Bastards episodes on the Hegseth book: https://youtu.be/FUU8NTFHCvk?si=ZCjOM6Mjtp1X9dPy & https://youtu.be/1HKE8cBYokY?si=1QrNOJZWcKvcq-mR  Fundie Fridays episode on Doug Wilson: https://youtu.be/6dhaNeJ9UDw?si=y_CcsEb2Dc0rR8QG Texas 'sodomy' case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas Show Notes: Please consider donating to help us make the show and stay ad-free and independent.  Patrons get exclusive access to at least one full extra episode a month plus all backer-only back-episodes. Daniel's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/danielharper/posts Jack's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4196618&fan_landing=true IDSG Twitter: https://twitter.com/idsgpod Daniel's Twitter: @danieleharper Jack's (Locked) Twitter: @_Jack_Graham_ Jack's Bluesky: @timescarcass.bsky.social Daniel's Bluesky: @danielharper.bsky.social IDSG on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-dont-speak-german/id1449848509?ls=1

Daniel and Jack talk about Nuremberg (2025) starring Russell Crowe as Hermann Goering. A clip.  Full episode exclusive for Patreon subscribers. Please consider donating to help us make the show and stay independent.  Patrons get exclusive access to at least one full extra episode a month. Daniel's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/danielharper/posts Jack's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4196618&fan_landing=true IDSG Twitter: https://twitter.com/idsgpod Daniel's Twitter: @danieleharper Jack's (Locked) Twitter: @_Jack_Graham_ Jack's Bluesky: @timescarcass.bsky.social Daniel's Bluesky: @danielharper.bsky.social IDSG on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-dont-speak-german/id1449848509?ls=1

We look at Megyn Kelly's sickening and ludicrous (and instantly infamous) apologia for Jeffrey Epstein in the wake of the dump of Epstein emails, and follow the thread from her, via Richard Hanania's deranged tweets about how it's normal for adult men to fancy minors, and Alan Dershowitz's seemingly eternal dedication to having Jeffrey Epstein's back, all the way back to a 2017 meeting between Epstein and Steve Bannon (et al), as related by Michael Wolff in a book, published in 2021, that contains many things now being treated as revelations by the media... Oh what a tangled web we weave... Gigantic and terrible content warnings. Episode Notes: Rebecca Watson's video on Epstein emails and Lawrence Krauss: https://youtu.be/VNLdyWPAz18?si=TEQwu2KcUdfJl3Tf Articles about Epstein and Bannon at Byline Times by Nafeez Ahmed: https://bylinetimes.com/2025/11/14/steve-bannon-offered-trumps-maga-as-shield-for-jeffrey-epstein/ https://bylinetimes.com/2025/11/17/jeffrey-epstein-had-access-to-trumps-inner-circle-while-working-with-steve-bannon/ Show Notes: Please consider donating to help us make the show and stay ad-free and independent.  Patrons get exclusive access to at least one full extra episode a month plus all backer-only back-episodes. Daniel's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/danielharper/posts Jack's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4196618&fan_landing=true IDSG Twitter: https://twitter.com/idsgpod Daniel's Twitter: @danieleharper Jack's (Locked) Twitter: @_Jack_Graham_ Jack's Bluesky: @timescarcass.bsky.social Daniel's Bluesky: @danielharper.bsky.social IDSG on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-dont-speak-german/id1449848509?ls=1

We finally deliver on a promise going back to the start of the show, an episode on the 'nazi dads' podcast Full Haus. Content extremely warnings.  Contains extensive clips featuring racism and sexism, and slurs (bleeped by us). Episode Notes: https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/us-state-department-official-involved-white-nationalist-movement-hatewatch-determines/ https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/white-nationalist-state-department-official-surfaces-photographs/ https://accollective.noblogs.org/post/2024/09/18/night-of-the-long-con-the-rise-and-fall-of-the-national-justice-party/  Oh, and Daniel's recent appearance on Half the Answer talking about the Tucker / Nick Fuentes interview: https://www.liberalcurrents.com/half-the-answer-47-the-tucker-carlson-nick-fuentes-interview-episode/ Show Notes: Please consider donating to help us make the show and stay ad-free and independent.  Patrons get exclusive access to at least one full extra episode a month plus all backer-only back-episodes. Daniel's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/danielharper/posts Jack's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4196618&fan_landing=true IDSG Twitter: https://twitter.com/idsgpod Daniel's Twitter: @danieleharper Jack's (Locked) Twitter: @_Jack_Graham_ Jack's Bluesky: @timescarcass.bsky.social Daniel's Bluesky: @danielharper.bsky.social IDSG on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-dont-speak-german/id1449848509?ls=1

We look at some recent news stories, including: Progressive Democratic Senate candidate Graham Platner, his scandals, and the reactions; Kenneth Leland Morgan walking into a pub in Athens Georgia in a full SS uniform, assaulting a woman, being arrested, and then being bailed out by Paul Miller AKA 'GypsyCrusader'; and the revelation that upcoming nazi video-maker 'Shameless Sperg' is Chris Booth, husband of Meghyn Booth, Republican treasurer of Maple Valley Township. Episode Notes: Platner: Graham Platner's claims that he didn't know tattoo was Nazi-linked undercut by new evidence | CNN Politics overview for P-Hustle Graham Platner asked why Black people 'don't tip' in Reddit posts Booth: Unmasked: the man behind one of the fastest growing far-right YouTube channels | Far right (US) | The Guardian https://rumble.com/user/ShamelessSperg/videos?e9s=src_v1_cmd Miller and Morgan: Kenneth Leland Morgan update: Who is Paul Miller? Man claims to help Georgia Nazi dresser get bail as new video emerges | Hindustan Times Who is Kenneth Leland Morgan? Athens, Georgia man in Nazi uniform allegedly assaulted woman outside Cutter's Pub | Hindustan Times Man in Nazi uniform assaulted Georgia student after he was denied entry to bar, officials say https://x.com/jokerwaffenfren/status/1982568060692427192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1982568060692427192%7Ctwgr%5E762b5102659e01bf355e40c126de12ef094256be%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F Nick Fuentes goes on Tucker: Tucker Carlson's interview with far-right antisemite Nick Fuentes divides conservatives | Tucker Carlson | The Guardian Heritage Foundation head defends Tucker Carlson for hosting white nationalist with antisemitic views - The Washington Post Antisemitism exposed in the ranks of the right — the GOP-Israeli honeymoon is over Angela Collier's The Faust and the Furious https://youtu.be/CnsDc9GDn1Y?si=zPCtZ1WI6wY_x7TS Show Notes: Please consider donating to help us make the show and stay ad-free and independent.  Patrons get exclusive access to at least one full extra episode a month plus all backer-only back-episodes. Daniel's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/danielharper/posts Jack's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4196618&fan_landing=true IDSG Twitter: https://twitter.com/idsgpod Daniel's Twitter: @danieleharper Jack's (Locked) Twitter: @_Jack_Graham_ Jack's Bluesky: @timescarcass.bsky.social Daniel's Bluesky: @danielharper.bsky.social IDSG on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-dont-speak-german/id1449848509?ls=1  

A clip of our new bonus episode on Kurt Vonnegut's great anti-fascist absurdist tragicomic novel Mother Night and the 90s film version. Full episode exclusive for Patreon subscribers. Please consider donating to help us make the show and stay independent.  Patrons get exclusive access to at least one full extra episode a month. Daniel's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/danielharper/posts Jack's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4196618&fan_landing=true IDSG Twitter: https://twitter.com/idsgpod Daniel's Twitter: @danieleharper Jack's (Locked) Twitter: @_Jack_Graham_ Jack's Bluesky: @timescarcass.bsky.social Daniel's Bluesky: @danielharper.bsky.social IDSG on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-dont-speak-german/id1449848509?ls=1

We're back with a news roundup.  One or two things have happened since we last talked.   Episode Notes: Katie Daviscourt on Poso's podcast, playing the video she recorded alongside their dramatization of it.  https://x.com/RealAmVoice/status/1973457224354898355 ICE shoots an unarmed priest: https://bsky.app/profile/johnpfaff.bsky.social/post/3m2nl24yqpc2v  Hecklers force ICE wannabees to give up. A ray of hope. https://bsky.app/profile/bluskypolitics.bsky.social/post/3m2hrcpo3qs2v  The "ten-car incident" video  https://bsky.app/profile/helldude.bsky.social/post/3m2fxjonrds2w  Show Notes: Daniel's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/danielharper/posts Jack's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4196618&fan_landing=true IDSG Twitter: https://twitter.com/idsgpod Daniel's Twitter: @danieleharper Jack's (Locked) Twitter: @_Jack_Graham_ Jack's Bluesky: @timescarcass.bsky.social Daniel's Bluesky: @danielharper.bsky.social IDSG on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-dont-speak-german/id1449848509?ls=1

Daniel welcomes very special guest Molly Conger of Weird Little Guys (and much renown besides) for the mother of all Cantwell news installments. Much Content Warning.   Molly's bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/socialistdogmom.bsky.social Weird Little Guys: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-weird-little-guys-201395214 Show Notes: Please consider donating to help us make the show and stay ad-free and independent.  Patrons get exclusive access to at least one full extra episode a month plus all backer-only back-episodes. Daniel's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/danielharper/posts Jack's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4196618&fan_landing=true IDSG Twitter: https://twitter.com/idsgpod Daniel's Twitter: @danieleharper Jack's (Locked) Twitter: @_Jack_Graham_ Jack's Bluesky: @timescarcass.bsky.social Daniel's Bluesky: @danielharper.bsky.social IDSG on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-dont-speak-german/id1449848509?ls=1

What do we know about Tyler Robinson?  What don't we know?  What are people saying?  Why are they saying what they're saying?  And again, who was Charlie Kirk really? Content Warnings Episode Links: https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/charlie-kirk-suspect-tyler-robinson-roommate-trans-relationship-65wvslwr8 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/12/us/charlie-kirk-bullet-casings-engravings.html https://archive.ph/2025.09.14-154103/https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/14/us/kirk-shooting-suspect-ideology-partner.html https://www.thedailybeast.com/charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect-romantically-linked-to-trans-roommate-gov/?utm_campaign=owned_social&utm_medium=socialflow&utm_source=facebook_owned_tdb&source=TDB&via=FB_Page https://howdypolitics.substack.com/p/you-cant-eulogize-charlie-kirk-without?r=39ezrs&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true https://www.expats.cz/czech-news/article/prague-cardinal-to-hold-mass-for-slain-conservative-charlie-kirk-sparking-debate-in-czechia https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/charlie-kirk-assassination-maga/ https://www.garbageday.email/p/charlie-kirk-was-killed-by-a-meme https://web.archive.org/web/20250911142246/https://stonetoss.com/comic/turning-point/ (NOTE: Stone Toss comic, link to Internet Archive) https://www.bugeyedandshameless.com/p/who-was-charlie-kirk-anyway https://www.wsj.com/us-news/who-tyler-robinson-charlie-kirk-suspect-814fd21f https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/it-was-one-of-us-utah-governor-spencer-cox-hoped-charlie-kirk-shooter-was-not-from-us-faces-backlash-online/articleshow/123858257.cms https://boingboing.net/2025/09/12/1350-word-feature-about-the-appeal-of-charlie-kirks-beliefs-doesnt-specify-them-or-quote-him.html (NOTE: A good read) https://web.archive.org/web/20240112121724/https://www.wired.com/story/charlie-kirk-tpusa-mlk-civil-rights-act/ (NOTE: Another good read) https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/10/magazine/charlie-kirk-american-right.html https://www.liberalcurrents.com/not-all-victims-should-be-martyrs/ https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/douglas-murray-and-charlie-kirk-agree-there-war-white-people https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-and-tpusa-are-fueled-far-right-extremism Show Notes: Please consider donating to help us make the show and stay ad-free and independent.  Patrons get exclusive access to at least one full extra episode a month plus all backer-only back-episodes. Daniel's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/danielharper/posts Jack's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4196618&fan_landing=true IDSG Twitter: https://twitter.com/idsgpod Daniel's Twitter: @danieleharper Jack's (Locked) Twitter: @_Jack_Graham_ Jack's Bluesky: @timescarcass.bsky.social Daniel's Bluesky: @danielharper.bsky.social IDSG on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/i-dont-speak-german/id1449848509?ls=1