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The Ripple Effect of Intentional Leadership with Lisa Even

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People experience your leadership long before you make a formal leadership decision.

It's in how you enter a room. How you react when you're stressed. Whether you acknowledge someone. The story you tell. The difficult interaction you choose not to pass along to the next person.

Lisa Even calls it the ripple effect: everything we say and do creates one, whether we're consciously choosing it or not.

In this episode, Lisa and Dr. LL explore intentional leadership, workplace culture, experimentation, small moments of human connection, and why impact doesn't have to be enormous to become meaningful.

If people don't trust what version of you is going to walk into the room, they start preparing for you.

If employees repeatedly experience something different from the leadership values an organization claims, those interactions become more credible than the words.

And if we're unaware of the signals we're continually sending, other people are left to interpret them for themselves.

Loralyn Mears, PhD, aka "Dr. LL," brings you thoughtful conversations with entrepreneurs and small business leaders navigating visibility, leadership, and growth. Thank you for being here.

 

👤 Guest

Lisa Even
Founder, Lisa Even International
Leadership, workplace culture, intentional impact, and keynote speaking

 

⚠️ Core Problems Discussed

• How stress and chaos affect the energy leaders bring into interactions

• Why employees remember small experiences that leaders may barely notice

• The difficulty of influencing people when you may never see the downstream outcome

• Leading different people as individuals rather than using one leadership approach for everyone

• Perfectionism preventing leaders and entrepreneurs from testing new approaches

• Passivity creating outcomes leaders never consciously chose

• Assuming meaningful impact requires a grand gesture

 

🥡 Practical Takeaways

• Everything you say and do creates a ripple, even when you never see where it travels.

• Stories can make abstract leadership principles easier for people to remember and apply.

• Small experiments give entrepreneurs permission to learn without needing perfection.

• Different employees may require different questions, communication styles, and approaches.

• Intentional leadership doesn't guarantee outcomes, but it makes those outcomes less accidental.

• Small interactions can become disproportionately memorable.

• Think of your energy like weather: people may already be preparing themselves for what you bring into the room.

⏱️ Timestamps

01:34 What "ripple effect" actually means
04:08 The coffee-shop encounter that illustrates how behavior travels
07:15 Choosing your impact even when you never see the result
09:32 How to gently interrupt someone's negative ripple
15:53 Why Lisa treats business like a laboratory
17:21 Different people require different leadership experiments
18:35 Intentional versus accidental leadership
19:56 What happens when leaders become passive about outcomes
23:24 Mr. Dale and the tiny interaction Lisa's family remembered
26:32 Lisa's "weather" experiment for leaders

🔖 Who This Episode Is For

Leaders, managers, entrepreneurs, and business owners who want to create stronger relationships and healthier cultures without turning leadership into another overwhelming initiative.

At STEERus, we see Accidental Signaling as a recurring source of misinterpretation risk. Organizations carefully manage what they intend to communicate, but trust is often formed through hundreds of smaller signals nobody thought to manage at all.

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