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How to Get Podcast Leads Without Paid Ads With Tom Schwab of Interview Valet

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The market is louder than ever, yet trust feels like a rare commodity. Many founders are visible but not chosen. They generate impressions, traffic, and activity, yet still lack meaningful conversations with ideal buyers.

If people don't trust you, they won't engage.
If they don't remember you, they won't refer you.
If your growth depends only on ads, it remains fragile.

Tom Schwab joins Dr. LL to discuss how podcast guesting can create a more durable path to authority, relationships, and revenue.

👤 Guest
Tom Schwab, Interview Valet
Leader in podcast interview marketing and relationship-based lead generation

⚠️ Core Problems

  • Transactional outreach fatigue
  • Overreliance on paid traffic
  • Weak authority positioning
  • No system for converting credibility into pipeline

🥡 Practical Takeaways

  • Go where trust already exists
  • Share expertise in long-form conversations
  • Build follow-up systems after appearances
  • Measure relationships, not just reach

⏱️ Timestamps

0:00 The trust deficit in marketing
7:18 Why podcasts work differently
15:42 Authority through conversation
26:10 Systems that convert interviews
36:40 What to build next

🔖 Who This Episode Is For

B2B founders, advisors, agencies, consultants, executives

Signal clarity grows when trust precedes promotion.
Presented by STEERus.

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