Heretics of Dune Q&A

Abu⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Leo⁠⁠⁠⁠ break down the seven most egregious sins committed by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson in their Dune novels. They discuss the lack of depth in characters, the absence of subtlety in storytelling, and the overall boring and predictable nature of the plots. They also highlight the stark contrast between Brian Herbert's writing and that of his father, Frank Herbert, emphasizing the failure to capture the complexity and richness of the original Dune series. This episode contains SPOILERS for the Brian Herbert prequel novels House Atreides, House Harkonnen, and House Corrino Get ad-free episodes and bonus content: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/GomJabbar⁠⁠⁠⁠ Say thank you with a tip: ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://buymeacoffee.com/gomjabbar⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch video versions of select episodes: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@loreparty⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get yourself some custom-designed Dune swag: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.gomjabbarshop.com⁠ (00:00) Intro (06:59) Sin #7: Bad writing (13:24) Sin #6: No character depth (23:11) Sin #5: Complete lack of subtlety or nuance (30:52) Sin #4: Boring storytelling (39:35) Sin #3: Nothing to say (46:47) Sin #2: Complete disregard of lore (01:05:26) Sin #1: Why are these stories necessary? (01:11:13) Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

⁠⁠Abu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ begin their coverage of the Frank Herbert Papers collection at Cal State Fullerton, bringing you Leo's in-the-moment reactions along with a thorough look at Dune's road to publication through the lens of the many rejection letters Frank and his literary agent received. This episode contains LIGHT SPOILERS for Dune, Dune Messiah and Children of Dune. Get ad-free episodes and bonus content: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/GomJabbar⁠⁠ Say thank you with a tip: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://buymeacoffee.com/gomjabbar⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch video versions of select episodes: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@loreparty⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get yourself some custom-designed Dune swag: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.gomjabbarshop.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Abu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ take the Bene Gesserit to court– the charges? More than ANY OTHER party in Dune, the Bene Gesserit are the greatest risk to humanity. This is a courthouse drama for the history books! This episode contains SPOILERS for all six of Frank's books! Get ad-free episodes and bonus content: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/GomJabbar⁠⁠ Say thank you with a tip: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://buymeacoffee.com/gomjabbar⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch video versions of select episodes: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@loreparty⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get yourself some custom-designed Dune swag: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.gomjabbarshop.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Abu⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Leo⁠⁠⁠⁠ present an audio drama adaptation of one of their favorite chapters in God Emperor of Dune. Listen with headphones for the best experience. Get ad-free episodes and bonus content: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/GomJabbar⁠⁠⁠⁠ Say thank you with a tip: ⁠⁠⁠⁠http://buymeacoffee.com/gomjabbar⁠⁠⁠⁠ Directed & Edited by Abu Zafar Written by Abu Zafar and Luna Linstrot Starring: Noah Perito as Moneo Logan Schmucker as Duncan Sean Alexander as Paul Leo Wiggins as Leto II Abu Zafar as Duke Leto Kayse Schmucker as Lady Jessica Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

⁠⁠Abu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ explore modern conversations about artificial intelligence through the ideas presented in Frank Herbert's Dune novels. They discuss the limitations of AI in generating new ideas, and how artificial intelligence lacks the emotional depth inherent in human artistry, raising ethical concerns about the use of artists' work without credit. Finally, they ask the all-important question: Is it time for a Butlerian Jihad? This episode contains SPOILERS for Heretics of Dune Get ad-free episodes and bonus content: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/GomJabbar⁠⁠⁠⁠ Say thank you with a tip: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://buymeacoffee.com/gomjabbar⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch video versions of select episodes: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@loreparty⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get yourself some custom-designed Dune swag: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.gomjabbarshop.com⁠ (00:00) Intro (04:16) LLMs and Other Memory (12:08) Can AI Come Up With New Ideas? (21:30) AI Lacks Imagination and Curiosity (31:27) AI Can Never Create Meaningful Art (49:35) AI Trained on Stolen Art (01:00:45) Do We Need a Butlerian Jihad? (01:12:03) Outro (01:13:58) Our Ideal Dumb Phone Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Abu and Leo bring their Dune obsession through the alchemist's portal to Ted Chiang's incredible short story collection, Exhalation, examining the common themes in Ted's writing along side Frank's. You be good. We love you. This episode contains SPOILERS through God Emperor of Dune, and of course, for the nine stories featured in Exhalation. Get ad-free episodes and bonus content: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/GomJabbar Say thank you with a tip: http://buymeacoffee.com/gomjabbar Watch video versions of select episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@loreparty Get yourself some custom-designed Dune swag: https://www.gomjabbarshop.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

⁠⁠Abu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ explore the themes of technology in the Dune Saga in order to and break down what lessons we can learn from Frank Herbert about our relationship with artificial intelligence today. This episode contains LIGHT SPOILERS for God Emperor of Dune Get ad-free episodes and bonus content: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/GomJabbar⁠⁠⁠ Say thank you with a tip: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://buymeacoffee.com/gomjabbar⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch video versions of select episodes: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@loreparty⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get yourself some custom-designed Dune swag: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.gomjabbarshop.com (00:00) Intro (04:20) AI in Dune (07:02) Frank's Warning About Technology (10:48) Does AI Make Us Dumber? (29:02) Will AI Deepen Inequality? (40:32) The Optimistic Future of AI (52:16) A Reminder for AI Users (55:13) More AI Discussions Coming Up (56:02) Some Important Reminders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Abu and Leo dive deep into the complex web of Taraza's plans within plans that stretch across all of Heretics of Dune. This episode contains HEAVY SPOILERS for the end of Heretics of Dune! Get ad-free episodes and bonus content: https://www.patreon.com/GomJabbar Say thank you with a tip: http://buymeacoffee.com/gomjabbar Watch video versions of select episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@loreparty Get yourself some custom-designed Dune swag: https://www.gomjabbarshop.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

⁠Abu⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Leo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ continue their deep dive into the life of the most legendary Naib in Fremen history, Stilgar. From his fierce dedication to the desert way in Dune, to his uneasy role as a commander in Dune Messiah, and finally his ideological crisis in Children of Dune, we track Stilgar’s evolution through the trilogy—and what it says about power, tradition, and identity. This episode contains SPOILERS for Dune, Dune Messiah, and Children of Dune Get ad-free episodes and bonus content: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/GomJabbar⁠⁠ Say thank you with a tip: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://buymeacoffee.com/gomjabbar⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Watch video versions of select episodes: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@loreparty⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get yourself some custom-designed Dune swag: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.gomjabbarshop.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Having completed their read-through of Heretics of Dune, Abu and Leo answer your lingering questions about this excellent and dense novel. This episode contains NO SPOILERS beyond the books and pages covered thus far Read along with us by following the Heretics of Dune book club schedule Get ad-free episodes and bonus content: https://www.patreon.com/GomJabbar Say thank you with a tip: http://buymeacoffee.com/gomjabbar Watch video versions of select episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@loreparty Get yourself some custom-designed Dune swag: https://www.gomjabbarshop.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices