05/19/24 - David Wengrow (Repeat)

Returning guest and longtime “First Voices Radio” friend Doug George-Kanentiio (Akwesasne Mohawk) was born and raised at the Mohawk Territory of Akwesasne. Doug attended school on and near the reservation before enrolling at Syracuse University and then the Antioch School of Law. Doug was a co-founder of the Native American Journalists Association (now the Indigenous Journalists Association) before serving the Mohawk Nation as editor of the journals Akwesasne Notes and Indian Time. He worked with the late Vine Deloria, Jr., on the Traditional Knowledge conferences before joining the Board of Trustees for the Smithsonian’s National Museum of the American Indian. Doug is vice-president for the Hiawatha Institute for Indigenous Knowledge, a non-profit higher learning facility that is based on Iroquois principles. He resides on Oneida Iroquois Territory. Production Credits: Tiokasin Ghosthorse (Lakota), Host and Executive Producer Liz Hill (Red Lake Ojibwe), Producer Karen Ramirez (Mayan), Studio Engineer, Radio Kingston Tiokasin Ghosthorse, Audio Editor Kevin Richardson, Podcast Editor Music Selections: 1. Song Title: Tahi Roots Mix (First Voices Radio Theme Song) Artist: Moana and the Moa Hunters Album: Tahi (1993) Label: Southside Records (Australia and New Zealand) 2. Song Title: Ablaze Artist: Tartie Album: The Quiver (November 2023) Producer: David Baron, Sun Mountain Studios, Boiceville, NY 3. Song Title: Mercy Mercy Me (the ecology song) Artist: Marvin Gaye Album: What’s Going On (1971) Label: Tamia 4. Song Title: In the Anthropocene Artist: Nick Mulvey Album: In the Anthropocene (2019) Label: Fiction Records 5. Song Title: S.O.S. (Mother Nature) Artist: Will. I. Am. Album: Songs About Girls (2007) Label: Interscope Records 6. Song Title: Feels Like Summer Artist: Childish Gambino Album: Summer Pack (2018) Label: Wolf+Rothstein/Liberator Music AKANTU INTELLIGENCE Visit Akantu Intelligence, an institute that Tiokasin founded with a mission of contextualizing original wisdom for troubled times. Go to https://akantuintelligence.org to find out more and consider joining his Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/Ghosthorse

Steven Schwartzberg is a former candidate for Congress in the Illinois 5th District, a former director of undergraduate studies for international studies at Yale University, an instructor in political science at DePaul University, and the author of “Arguments over Genocide: The War of Words in the Congress and the Supreme Court over Cherokee Removal.” His great-grandparents on his mother’s side were involved in anarchist communes for decades, his mother’s father was an economist and speechwriter for FDR, his mother is a doctor, and his father is a lawyer. Production Credits: Tiokasin Ghosthorse (Lakota), Host and Executive Producer Liz Hill (Red Lake Ojibwe), Producer Karen Ramirez (Mayan), Studio Engineer, Radio Kingston Tiokasin Ghosthorse, Audio Editor Kevin Richardson, Podcast Editor Music Selections: 1. Song Title: Tahi Roots Mix (First Voices Radio Theme Song Artist: Moana and the Moa Hunters Album: Tahi (1993) Label: Southside Records (Australia and New Zealand) 2. Song Title: Psychos Artist: Jenny Lewis Album: Joy’All (2023) Label: Blue Note Records 3. Song Title: Life of a Native Artist: Okema Single: Life of a Native (2019) Label: Okema 4. Song Title: 1492 Artist: Earth Surface People Album: 500 Years (2021) Label: Underwater Panther Coalition 5. Song Title: Enough Artist: Kingfisha Album: Kingfisha (2012) Label: Vitamin Records (2), Mullumbimby, NSW, Australia AKANTU INTELLIGENCE Visit Akantu Intelligence, an institute that Tiokasin founded with a mission of contextualizing original wisdom for troubled times. Go to https://akantuintelligence.org to find out more and consider joining his Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/Ghosthorse

For this repeat show, we revisit Tiokasin's conversation with Rebecca Clarren, author of “The Cost of Free Land: Jews, Lakota, and an American Inheritance” (Viking, 2023). Rebecca has been writing about the American West for more than 20 years. She is the winner of the 2021 Whiting Nonfiction Grant for her work on “The Cost of Free Land.” Her journalism, for which she has won the Hillman Prize, an Alicia Patterson Foundation Fellowship, and 10 grants from the Fund for Investigative Journalism, has appeared in such publications as MotherJones, High Country News, The Nation, and Indian Country Today. Her debut novel, “Kickdown” (Sky Horse Press, 2018), was shortlisted for the PEN/Bellwether Prize. Learn more about Rebecca at www.rebecca-clarren.com, @RebeccaClarren (Twitter) and @Rclarren (Instagram). Production Credits: Tiokasin Ghosthorse (Lakota), Host and Executive Producer Liz Hill (Red Lake Ojibwe), Producer Karen Ramirez (Mayan), Studio Engineer, Radio Kingston Tiokasin Ghosthorse, Audio Editor Kevin Richardson, Podcast Editor Music Selections: 1. Song Title: Tahi Roots Mix (First Voices Radio Theme Song Artist: Moana and the Moa Hunters Album: Tahi (1993) Label: Southside Records (Australia and New Zealand) 2. Song Title: Love Theme from Spartacus Artist: Terry Callier Album: TimePeace (1998) Label: Verve Records 3. Song Title: Come and Get Your Love Artist: Redbone Album: Wovoka (1973) Label: Epic Records AKANTU INTELLIGENCE Visit Akantu Intelligence, an institute that Tiokasin founded with a mission of contextualizing original wisdom for troubled times. Go to https://akantuintelligence.org to find out more and consider joining his Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/Ghosthorse

Jonathan Gonzales was born in Tuxtepec, Oaxaca, Mexico and grew up in southern California. He has spent the last 12 years learning earth living skills and ancestral ceremonial ways with many teachers and elders, combined with participating in Indigenous, earth-based ceremonies along with a quest to connect more deeply with his ancestral lineage, which is Indigenous Taino from Puerto Rico, Chinanteco from Mexico, and African. Kapi'olani A. Laronal, MA, Ed., is a descendant of the Haida (Eagle Clan, Sgwaa Gitanee, People of the Tall Grass), Tsimshian, Native Hawaiian, and Filipino. Kapi’olani’s experiences working with Native communities on ocean and land restoration projects, cultural preservation, and protocols have significantly shaped her academic and professional life. She is an educator, athlete, life coach and consultant. Kapi'olani brings years of professional experience in secondary and higher education institutions supporting diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives and policies centered on college student outreach, recruitment and services for traditionally underserved and low-income communities of color. Her work specializes in Indigenous and First Nations community-centered partnerships. Production Credits: Tiokasin Ghosthorse (Lakota), Host and Executive Producer Liz Hill (Red Lake Ojibwe), Producer Karen Ramirez (Mayan), Studio Engineer, Radio Kingston Tiokasin Ghosthorse, Audio Editor Kevin Richardson, Podcast Editor Music Selections: 1. Song Title: Tahi Roots Mix (First Voices Radio Theme Song Artist: Moana and the Moa Hunters Album: Tahi (1993) Label: Southside Records (Australia and New Zealand) 2. Song Title: Mountains and Miller Artist: Lanie Gardner Single: Released in 2024 Label: Bee String Records 3. Song Title: Mykonos Sundown Feelings Artist: Islands of Chill Album: Islands of Chill: A Smooth Breeze of Relaxing Sounds from the World’s Most Famous Beaches (2005) Label: Manifold Music GmbH AKANTU INTELLIGENCE Visit Akantu Intelligence, an institute that Tiokasin founded with a mission of contextualizing original wisdom for troubled times. Go to https://akantuintelligence.org to find out more and consider joining his Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/Ghosthorse

REPEAT SHOW. David Graeber and David Wengrow are the co-authors of "The Dawn of Everything: A New History of Humanity" (Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 2021). "This is not a book. This is an intellectual feast. There is not a single chapter that does not (playfully) disrupt well-seated intellectual beliefs. It is deep, effortlessly iconoclastic, factually rigorous, and pleasurable to read." — Nassim Nicholas Taleb, Author, "The Black Swan." Tiokasin talks with co-author David Wengrow, a professor of comparative archaeology at the Institute of Archaeology, University College London. He is a visiting professor at New York University. He is the author of three books, including, "What Makes Civilization?" David has conducted archaeological fieldwork in various parts of Africa and the Middle East. Co-author David Graeber (d. 9/2/2020) was a professor of anthropology at the London School of Economics. He was the author of "Debt: The First 5,000 Years" and "Bullshit Jobs: A Theory," and was a contributor to Harper’s Magazine, The Guardian and The Baffler. An iconic thinker and renowned activist, his early efforts in Zuccotti Park made Occupy Wall Street an era-defining movement. Production Credits: Tiokasin Ghosthorse (Lakota), Host and Executive Producer Liz Hill (Red Lake Ojibwe), Producer Malcolm Burn, Studio Engineer, Radio Kingston Tiokasin Ghosthorse, Audio Editor Kevin Richardson, Podcast Editor Music Selections: 1. Song Title: Tahi Roots Mix (First Voices Radio Theme Song Artist: Moana and the Moa Hunters Album: Tahi (1993) Label: Southside Records (Australia and New Zealand) 2. Song Title: Rich Man's War Artist: John Trudell with Jesse Ed Davis Album: AKA Graffiti Man (1992) Label: Rykodisc 3. Song Title: Prayer Artist: Tiokasin Ghosthorse with vocals by Lisa Bodnar Album: Ghosthorse Ksa (2007) Label: Ghosthorse 4. Song Title: Darker Than a Shadow Artist: Terry Callier Album: Speak Your Peace (2002) Label: Mr Bongo 5. Artist: Terry Callier Album: It’s About Time Album: The New Folk Sound (1965) Label: Prestige Records 6. Song Title: Waiting on a War Artist: Foo Fighters Album: Medicine at Midnight (2021) Label: Roswell Records AKANTU INTELLIGENCE Visit Akantu Intelligence, an institute that Tiokasin founded with a mission of contextualizing original wisdom for troubled times. Go to https://akantuintelligence.org to find out more and consider joining his Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/Ghosthorse

Tiokasin talks with Daygot Leeyos (Oneida Nation, Wolf Clan). A multimedia artist, emcee/poet, music producer, performer and gardener, Daygot is halfway through a bachelor's degree in cinematography. She studied music production at Dubspot in Manhattan and audio engineering at The Recording Workshop in Chillicothe, Ohio. Daygot has traveled around the world as an activist, cultural ambassador and performing artist, including United Nations conventions, Indigenous ceremony and international cultural exchanges. She has been involved in Oneida Language revitalization and preservation throughout her life in both immersion setting learning classes and hybrid style methods. Daygot’s recent studies include research to prove Indigenous language preservation helps prevent suicide. Her new single for missing and murdered Indigenous peoples is titled: MMIWPS: https://bit.ly/3UWwcHn. Daygot is working on an album and expanding her artistic endeavors. Production Credits: Tiokasin Ghosthorse (Lakota), Host and Executive Producer Liz Hill (Red Lake Ojibwe), Producer Karen Ramirez (Mayan), Studio Engineer, Radio Kingston Tiokasin Ghosthorse, Audio Editor Kevin Richardson, Podcast Editor Music Selections: 1. Song Title: Tahi Roots Mix (First Voices Radio Theme Song Artist: Moana and the Moa Hunters Album: Tahi (1993) Label: Southside Records (Australia and New Zealand) 2. Song Title: Watersong Artist: Vince Fontaine’s Indian City Album: Supernation (2012) Label: Rising Sun Productions, Winnipeg, Manitoba 3. Song Title: Silent Running (on Dangerous Ground) Artist: Mike + the Mechanics Album: Mike + the Mechanics (1985) Label: Atlantic / Warner Music Group Corp. 4. Song Title: What’s Going On (Marvin Gaye) Artist: Feat. Sara Bareilles, Clarence Milton Bekker & Titi Tsira Album: Playing for Change 3 / Song Around the World (2014) Label: Playing for Change Records AKANTU INTELLIGENCE Visit Akantu Intelligence, an institute that Tiokasin founded with a mission of contextualizing original wisdom for troubled times. Go to https://akantuintelligence.org to find out more and consider joining his Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/Ghosthorse

Host Tiokasin Ghosthorse spends the hour with Max Wilbert. Max is a writer and biocentric community organizer. He has been part of grassroots political work for 20 years and is the founder of Protect Thacker Pass. Max is the author of two books, most recently "Bright Green Lies: How The Environmental Movement Lost Its Way and What We Can Do About It,” published by Monkfish in 2021. He is currently studying for a Masters in Degrowth. Max’s work has been featured on CNN, The New York Times, NPR, Le Monde, BBC and elsewhere. Production Credits: Tiokasin Ghosthorse (Lakota), Host and Executive Producer Liz Hill (Red Lake Ojibwe), Producer Karen Martinez (Mayan), Studio Engineer, Radio Kingston Tiokasin Ghosthorse, Audio Editor Kevin Richardson, Podcast Editor Music Selections: 1. Song Title: Tahi Roots Mix (First Voices Radio Theme Song Artist: Moana and the Moa Hunters Album: Tahi (1993) Label: Southside Records (Australia and New Zealand) 2. Song Title: Smelling the Rain Artist: Genevieve Chadwick Album: Riding the Wind Saving Time (2009) Label: Cloud Studios 3. Song Title: Fly With Us Artist: Sarita Album: Earth Anthems (2024) Label: Same Sky Productions 4. Song Title: The City: Grass and Concrete Taxi to Brooklyn Artist: Mark-Almond Album: Mark-Almond (2005) Label: UMG Recordings, Inc. 5. Song Title: Sunrise Moon Artist: Tiokasin Ghosthorse Album: Somewhere in There (2016) Label: Ghosthorse AKANTU INTELLIGENCE Visit Akantu Intelligence, an institute that Tiokasin founded with a mission of contextualizing original wisdom for troubled times. Go to https://akantuintelligence.org to find out more and consider joining his Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/Ghosthorse

Host Tiokasin Ghosthorse catches up with our friend Dr. Manuel Rozental for the entire hour. Dr. Manuel Rozental is a long-time Colombian activist, researcher and community organizer. Manuel has been involved with grassroots political organizing with youth, Indigenous communities, and urban and rural social movements for four decades. He is part of an initiative: Pueblos en Camino, Peoples on the Path, with a mandate to weave autonomies and resistance between peoples. Their discussion includes: international relationships, “Can Indigenous peoples be both Indigenous and capitalists?” (Answer: “No, because the same mentality that exploits other people and Mother Earth can only end up destroying everything…”) and an update on recent events and activities taking place in Abya Yala (South America). Manuel draws discussion points from the book, “As We Have Always Done” by Leanne Betasamosake Simpson, a renowned Michi Saagiig Nishnaabeg scholar, writer and artist. Finally, Manuel educates listeners about the plight of Abdullah Öcalan, who has been in solitary confinement in Turkey for over 25 years and has been cut off from the outside world. Öcalan’s writings are inspiring intellectuals, free thinkers, scientists, workers, activists, artists, trade unionists, social movements, politicians and entire societies. Öcalan left Syria 25 years ago as a Kurdish leader in the wake of an international conspiracy and returned years later as a pioneer of a free, multi-ethnic, multi-religious and grassroots democratic society. For more understanding, please go to this link: https://bit.ly/4b5Wn3A Production Credits: Tiokasin Ghosthorse (Lakota), Host and Executive Producer Liz Hill (Red Lake Ojibwe), Producer Karen Martinez (Mayan), Studio Engineer, Radio Kingston Tiokasin Ghosthorse, Audio Editor Kevin Richardson, Podcast Editor Music Selections: 1. Song Title: Tahi Roots Mix (First Voices Radio Theme Song) Artist: Moana and the Moa Hunters Album: Tahi (1993) Label: Southside Records (Australia and New Zealand) 2. Song Title: Freedom Now Artist: Nick Mulvey feat. Arruj Aftab and Golshifteh Farahani) Single from Choose Love Campaign Label: Conscious Music Group / Kartel Music (2024) 3. Song Title: Morning in America Artist: Durand Jones & The Indications Album: American Love Call (2019) Label: Dead Oceans 4. Song Title: Feels Like Summer Artist: Childish Gambino - Donald Glover Album: Feels Like Summer Label: Wolf+Rothstein, Liberator Music, RCA AKANTU INTELLIGENCE Visit Akantu Intelligence, an institute that Tiokasin founded with a mission of contextualizing original wisdom for troubled times. Go to https://akantuintelligence.org to find out more and consider joining his Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/Ghosthorse

In the first half-hour, Guest Host Anne Keala Kelly has a lively conversation with award-winning journalist, film producer and community organizer Kevin Abourezk about “Cultural Appropriation in the Era of AI,” which was inspired by Kevin’s March 28, 2024 article in Indian Country Today: “Navajo word for beautiful at center or controversy.” Kevin is currently deputy managing editor of Indian Country Today and was a reporter and editor for the Lincoln Journal Star for 18 years. A member of the Rosebud Sioux Tribe, he has spent his career documenting the lives, accomplishments and tragedies of Native American people. Kevin holds a bachelor's degree in English from the University of South Dakota and a master's in journalism from the University of Nebraska at Lincoln. Read Kevin’s article here: https://ictnews.org/news/navajo-word-for-beautiful-at-center-of-controversy. In the second half-hour, Keala speaks with Shannon O’Loughlin (Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma), Chief Executive and Attorney at the Association on American Indian Affairs about the new rules for the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act. Shannon has been practicing law for more than 22 years and is a lecturer at Johns Hopkins University. She is a former Chief of Staff to the National Indian Gaming Commission, where she assisted in the development and implementation of national gaming policy, and oversaw the agency’s public affairs, technology, compliance and finance divisions. Shannon has also served Native Country in the private sector as an attorney, leading a large national firm’s Native Nations law practice group that worked to strengthen, maintain and protect sovereignty, self-determination and culture. Shannon was appointed by Secretary of the Department of the Interior, Sally Jewell to the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act Review Committee in 2013, and was appointed by President Barack Obama as the first Native American to the Cultural Property Advisory Committee within the State Department in 2015; she was fired by President Trump in 2019. Shannon received a B.A. in American Indian Studies from California State University, Long Beach and joint M.A. and J.D. degrees from the University of Arizona in Indigenous Peoples Law and Policy. Production Credits: Tiokasin Ghosthorse (Lakota), Host and Executive Producer Anne Keala Kelly (Kanaka Maoli), Guest Host Liz Hill (Red Lake Ojibwe), Producer Manuel Blas, Studio Engineer, Radio Kingston Anne Keala Kelly, Audio Editor Kevin Richardson, Podcast Editor Music Selections: 1. Song Title: Tahi Roots Mix (First Voices Radio Theme Song) Artist: Moana and the Moa Hunters Album: Tahi (1993) Label: Southside Records (Australia and New Zealand) 2. Song Title: Indian in the Child Artist: Sandra Sutter Album: Cluster Stars (2018) Label: Sandra Sutter 3. Song Title: Mountain Song Artist: Sandra Sutter Album: Cluster Stars (2018) Label: Sandra Sutter (Vince Fontaine and Chris Burke-Gaffney, Producers) AKANTU INTELLIGENCE Visit Akantu Intelligence, an institute that Tiokasin founded with a mission of contextualizing original wisdom for troubled times. Go to https://akantuintelligence.org to find out more and consider joining his Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/Ghosthorse

This week, an hour-long discussion about the terrifying uptick in syphilis infections and congenital syphilis cases in Indian Country. This is a problem throughout the US and it’s hitting Indian Country the hardest. Guest Host Anne Keala Kelly (Kanaka Maoli) spends the hour with Amanda Singer (Diné), Executive Director of the Navajo Breastfeeding Coalition/Diné Doula Collective in Window Rock, Arizona. Amanda is a Certified Lactation Counselor and Indigenous Doula.The organization’s mission is to improve the health of Navajo families by providing compassionate unbiased, and accessible care to improving all birthing families and Infant health through holistic traditional practices and to promote healing. Production Credits: Tiokasin Ghosthorse (Lakota), Host and Executive Producer Anne Keala Kelly (Kanaka Maoli), Guest Host Liz Hill (Red Lake Ojibwe), Producer Manuel Blas, Studio Engineer, Radio Kingston Anne Keala Kelly, Audio Editor Kevin Richardson, Podcast Editor Music Selections: 1. Song Title: Tahi Roots Mix (First Voices Radio Theme Song) Artist: Moana and the Moa Hunters Album: Tahi (1993) Label: Southside Records (Australia and New Zealand) 2. Song Title: Little One Artist: Sharon Burch Album: Yazzie Girl (1989) Label: Canyon Records 3. Song Title: Grandmother’s Ways Artist: Sharon Burch Album: Touch the Sweet Earth (1995) Label: Canyon Records 4. Song Title: The Peacemaker is Born Artist: Joanne Shenandoah Album: Peacemaker’s Journey (2000) Label: Silver Wave Records AKANTU INTELLIGENCE Visit Akantu Intelligence, an institute that Tiokasin founded with a mission of contextualizing original wisdom for troubled times. Go to https://akantuintelligence.org to find out more and consider joining his Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/Ghosthorse