Independence Update

Daniel Steinberg returns to chat about Apple's Foundation Models framework and what changed in OS 27. We get into using AI only where it's appropriate, experimenting with #Playground, falling back gracefully when the model isn't there, when Private Cloud Compute is worth the trip, sessions, instructions and @Generable, tools and dynamic profiles, testing with the new Evaluations framework, and why AI should learn to say "I don't know."GuestDim Sum ThinkingThe Editor's Cut - Books by Daniel SteinbergThe Puzzle of the Perfectly Paved Path: An Introduction to App IntentsTop TracksDaniel Steinberg on X (@dimsumthinking)Daniel Steinberg on Mastodon (@[email protected])Related LinksWhat's new in the Foundation Models framework (WWDC26)Build agentic app experiences (WWDC26)Build AI-powered scripts with the fm CLI and Python SDK (WWDC26)Meet the Evaluations framework (WWDC26)Build with the new Apple Foundation Model on Private Cloud Compute (WWDC26)Bring an LLM provider to the Foundation Models framework (WWDC26)Foundation Models - Apple Developer DocumentationImage Playground - Apple Developer DocumentationShip the Fallback First - Jeroen LeenartsDo iOS 2026 - Intro to Foundation Models workshopBushel - macOS Virtual Machine App for DevelopersRelated EpisodesFunctional Programming with Daniel SteinbergDo the Wrong Thing Much Faster with Graham LeeWe Don't Have Any Futures or Promises Anymore with Tim CondonPractical Agents with Donny WalsEveryone Thinks They're Good at Prompting with Joe FabisevichChapters(00:00) - Stage Three: Using AI Where Appropriate (05:19) - Experimenting with #Playground (07:36) - What's New in OS 27 (13:33) - Fallbacks and Private Cloud Compute (21:12) - Sessions, Instructions, and @Generable (28:26) - Tools, Dynamic Profiles, and Streaming (37:12) - Images and Testing with Evaluations (43:21) - Platforms, Privacy, and the Cost of Tokens WatchClick here to watch a video of this episode. TranscriptClick here to view the episode transcript. Support the Show ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★  Thanks to our supporters: Thanks to our monthly supporters work design Steven Lipton  Welcome new supporters: Social MediaLinkedIn - @leogdionGitHub - @brightdigitGitHub - @leogdionMastodon - @[email protected] - @brightdigitX - @leogdionX - @brightdigitCreditsMusic from https://filmmusic.io "Blippy Trance" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

Graham Lee returns to chat about what it takes to become a software centaur: using AI to get better at the craft, not just faster. We get into why the job was never about typing code, meat proxies and Jevons paradox, his catalog of interaction patterns for AI-augmented development, why a model shouldn't mark its own homework, and Axminster, his UML-based macOS app that gives LLMs a design to follow. GuestChiron CodexChiron Codex PatreonChiron Codex Agent Skills - GitHubStructure and Interpretation of Computer Programmers podcastSoftware Craftsmanship's Consulting DetectiveRelated LinksAxminster: AI-Augmented Software DesignAxminister - Mac App StorePatterns in AI Augmented Software Development - iOSDevUKSoftware Centaurs white paper (PDF)Reasons to dislike AI codingReplacing MCP with Standard Filesystem ToolsIs spec-driven development the end of agile?Episode 64: Using Pattern Languages for Object-Oriented ProgramsObject-Oriented Programming the Easy WayRelated EpisodesThe More You Know with Stewart LynchSkynet Came and Automated Everything with Jared SorgePractical Agents with Donny WalsEveryone Thinks They're Good at Prompting with Joe FabisevichActually Really UsefulObjective-C Today with Graham LeeChaptersWatchClick here to watch a video of this episode. TranscriptClick here to view the episode transcript. Support the Show ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★  Thanks to our supporters: Thanks to our monthly supporters work design Steven Lipton  Welcome new supporters: Social MediaLinkedIn - @leogdionGitHub - @brightdigitGitHub - @leogdionMastodon - @[email protected] - @brightdigitX - @leogdionX - @brightdigitCreditsMusic from https://filmmusic.io "Blippy Trance" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

Georg Tuparev stops by to chat about software that outlives its plans: projects scoped for a few months that are still in development 20 years later. We get into running a small team of physicists and astronomers, why WebObjects and EOF are still in production, where AI helps and where it falls short, server-side Swift with SwiftNIO, and storing exabytes of telescope data from observatories no cable can keep up with.GuestGeorg Tuparev - Tuparev Technologies@[email protected] - MastodonGeorg Tuparev - LinkedIntuparev (Georg Tuparev) - GitHubGeorg Tuparev (@tuparev) - XSkyObserverRelated LinksExabyte Data Storage - Georg Tuparev - ServerSide.swiftExabyte Data Infrastructure - Tuparev TechnologiesAstronomy & Space - Tuparev TechnologiesSwiftNIO - GitHubServerSide.swiftRelated EpisodesWe Don't Have Any Futures or Promises Anymore with Tim CondonThe More You Know with Stewart LynchFull Stack Things with Werner Jainek and Vojtěch RylkoObjective-C Today with Graham LeeChaptersWatchClick here to watch a video of this episode. TranscriptClick here to view the episode transcript. Support the Show ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★  Thanks to our supporters: Thanks to our monthly supporters work design Steven Lipton  Welcome new supporters: Social MediaLinkedIn - @leogdionGitHub - @brightdigitGitHub - @leogdionMastodon - @[email protected] - @brightdigitX - @leogdionX - @brightdigitCreditsMusic from https://filmmusic.io "Blippy Trance" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

Tim Condon stops by to chat about Vapor 5, the biggest Vapor release in six and a half years. We get into dropping futures and promises for Swift concurrency all the way down the stack, Span and strict memory safety, and the new shared Swift HTTP server.GuestTim CondonTim Condon (@[email protected]) - MastodonTim Condon (@0xtim.bsky.social) - Bluesky0xTim (Tim Condon)VaporRelated LinksVapor 5 Beta - Vapor BlogWhat's New in Vapor 5 Beta - Vapor BlogAnnouncing the Networking Workgroup - Swift.orgswift-http-server - GitHubSwift OpenAPI Generator - GitHubRelated EpisodesYear of the Server with Tim Condon - Part 1Year of the Server with Tim Condon - Part 2Server-Side Swift with Tim CondonWho's Wendy with Joannis OrlandosSwift Server Workgroup with Joannis OrlandosChapters(00:00) - Server-Side Swift Today (02:29) - Vapor 5, Span & Memory Safety (13:38) - Package Flags & Dropping EventLoopFutures (18:36) - Streaming & the Swift HTTP Server (24:21) - VaporTesting & Macros (33:18) - OpenAPI & the Future of Fluent (38:48) - AI, Open Source & the New Networking APIs WatchClick here to watch a video of this episode. TranscriptClick here to view the episode transcript. Support the Show ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★  Thanks to our supporters: Thanks to our monthly supporters work design Steven Lipton  Welcome new supporters: Social MediaLinkedIn - @leogdionGitHub - @brightdigitGitHub - @leogdionMastodon - @[email protected] - @brightdigitX - @leogdionX - @brightdigitCreditsMusic from https://filmmusic.io "Blippy Trance" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

Stewart Lynch stops by to chat about using AI to learn faster instead of just letting it write your code. We get into planning in stages before you build, why Markdown is the universal language of AI, and the tiny "donkey work" tools he vibe codes for himself.GuestStewart LynchStewart Lynch 🇨🇦 (@[email protected]) - MastodonStewart Lynch (@stewartlynch.bsky.social) - BlueskyStewart Lynch - YouTubeStewart Lynch | LinkedInStewart Lynch - All Social LinksCreatech Solutions BlogRelated LinksHow AI assistance impacts the formation of coding skills - AnthropicSosumi.ai - Apple docs as MarkdownTypora - Markdown editorRelated EpisodesHow to Learn New APIs with Stewart Lynch - Part 1How to Learn New APIs with Stewart Lynch - Part 2Practical Agents with Donny WalsEveryone Thinks They're Good at Prompting with Joe FabisevichChapters(00:00) - Xcode 27 & the New Device Hub (03:36) - Why YouTube Teaching Is Changing & Using AI to Synthesize New APIs (11:24) - Why Learn When AI Can Build It? Staged Plans & PRDs (16:29) - Markdown as the Universal Language of AI (22:07) - AI Costs, Hallucinations & Learning Smarter (27:48) - Xcode + Claude Code Workflow (30:53) - "Donkey Work": Building Small Tools With AI (35:55) - What to Delegate to AI vs. Control Yourself (40:22) - OS 27 Support, the iPhone Dual & Side-Project Playgrounds WatchClick here to watch a video of this episode. TranscriptClick here to view the episode transcript. Support the Show ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★  Thanks to our supporters: Thanks to our monthly supporters work design Steven Lipton  Welcome new supporters: Social MediaLinkedIn - @leogdionGitHub - @brightdigitGitHub - @leogdionMastodon - @[email protected] - @brightdigitX - @leogdionX - @brightdigitCreditsMusic from https://filmmusic.io "Blippy Trance" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

Jared Sorge stops by to chat about Arborist, his native Mac command center for Git work trees. We get into running agents in parallel with work trees, when to drop from SwiftUI down to AppKit, and selling a Mac app outside the App Store with Sparkle, Stripe, and RevenueCat, and somehow end up talking about the iPhone Duo.GuestJared SorgeJared Sorge (@[email protected]) - Mastodonjsorge (Jared Sorge)Jared Sorge | LinkedInJared Sorge (@jsorge) • ThreadsArborist - A native macOS command center for Git repositories and worktreesTaphouse SoftwareRelated LinksArboristBaseplate - Track your LEGO collectionTower - Git clientNova - Panicmise - dev tools, env vars, task runnerjust - a handy way to save and run project-specific commandsswift-subprocess - GitHubSparkle - Software update framework for macOSRevenueCatManaged Payments - Stripe DocumentationSQLiteData - Point-Free - GitHubSharing - Point-Free - GitHubSwift Navigation - Point-Free - GitHubIntroducing Claude Design by Anthropic Labs - AnthropicMac-Assed Mac Apps - Daring FireballTuistXcodeGen - GitHubShipaton 2026 - RevenueCatSwiftConiOSDevUKBushel - Mac virtualization for developersRelated EpisodesPractical Agents with Donny WalsEveryone Thinks They're Good at Prompting with Joe FabisevichThe Great SwiftUI Migration - Part 2 with Ben ScheirmanThe Great SwiftUI Migration - Part 1 with Ben ScheirmanmacOS Indie Deep Cuts with Aaron VeghMac Dev in 2021 with Daniel JalkutHow to Learn New APIs with Stewart Lynch - Part 1Automation Fun with Jared SorgeChapters(00:00) - Why Work Trees (06:56) - The Idea Behind Arborist (11:14) - SwiftUI vs. AppKit (17:05) - Picking the Right Tool for the Job (21:27) - From Problem to Product (25:30) - Shipping Outside the Mac App Store (29:59) - Licensing, Sandboxing & Subprocess (36:30) - Agentic Coding & the Product Engineer (45:17) - What's Next for Arborist WatchClick here to watch a video of this episode. TranscriptClick here to view the episode transcript. Support the Show ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★ Thanks to our supporters: Thanks to our monthly supporters work design Steven Lipton Welcome new supporters: Social MediaLinkedIn - @leogdionGitHub - @brightdigitGitHub - @leogdionMastodon - @[email protected] - @brightdigitX - @leogdionX - @brightdigitCreditsMusic from https://filmmusic.io "Blippy Trance" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

Saleem Abdulrasool joins us to chat about bringing Swift to Windows. We get into server-side Swift, SwiftWin32, Swift's C++ interop, and how to get started yourself.GuestSaleem Abdulrasoolcompnerd (Saleem Abdulrasool)Saleem Abdulrasool (@compnerd) - FosstodonSaleem Abdulrasool (@compnerd) / XRelated LinksPorting by a 1000 Patches: Bringing Swift to Windows (2019 LLVM Developers' Meeting) - YouTubeSwift/Win32 - A Windows application framework for Swift - GitHubSwift/COM+ - GitHubSwift/WinMD - Windows Metadata Parser in Swift - GitHubSwift/WinRT - Swift Projections for WinRT - GitHubDXSample - Sample Program for DirectX 12 + Swift - GitHubvigil - A caffeinate-inspired power management tool for Windows - GitHubswift-winrt - Swift Language Projection for WinRT - The Browser Companyswift-winui - Swift Language Bindings for WinUI3 - The Browser CompanyInstall Swift on Windows - Swift.orgRelated EpisodesWho's Wendy with Joannis OrlandosDeconstructing Xcode with xTool with Kabir OberaiFull Stack Things with Werner Jainek and Vojtěch RylkoSwift on Android with Marc Prud'hommeauxSwift, Server Side, Serverless with Sébastien StormacqSwift Server Workgroup with Joannis OrlandosSwift Package Index with Dave Verwer and Sven SchmidtBackend Decisions with Mikaela CaronChapters(00:00) - Why Swift on Windows (08:40) - Command Line Tools, PowerShell & WSL (16:35) - Server-Side Swift & Building Desktop Apps (24:46) - The History of Windows UI Frameworks (33:15) - Getting Started with Swift on Windows (41:32) - Interop, SwiftUI & Future Plans WatchClick here to watch a video of this episode. TranscriptClick here to view the episode transcript. Support the Show ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★  Thanks to our supporters: Thanks to our monthly supporters work design Steven Lipton  Welcome new supporters: Social MediaLinkedIn - @leogdionGitHub - @brightdigitGitHub - @leogdionMastodon - @[email protected] - @brightdigitX - @leogdionX - @brightdigitCreditsMusic from https://filmmusic.io "Blippy Trance" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

Donny Wals returns to talk through a year of agentic coding. We go through how it's changed his architecture decisions, reviewing PRs he didn't write himself, managing tasks and context across parallel agents, and the gym-workout crash he fixed from his phone mid-set — plus where he still doesn't trust the agent: SwiftData migrations.GuestDonny WalsDonny Wals 👾 (@donnywals.bsky.social) — BlueskyDonny Wals 👾 (@DonnyWals) / XDonny Wals (@donnywalsdev) • Instagram photos and videosdonny wals - YouTubeDonny Wals (@[email protected]) - chaos.socialDonny Wals | LinkedInRelated LinksCursor - https://cursor.comBitrise - https://bitrise.ioNotion - https://notion.soRaycast - https://raycast.comGrill with Docs - https://www.aihero.dev/grill-with-docsMaxine - One Rep Max Tracker (Donny's workout app) - https://apps.apple.com/us/app/maxine-one-rep-max-tracker/id6615073254GRDB.swift - https://github.com/groue/GRDB.swiftSundialKit (Leo's watch communication library) - https://github.com/brightdigit/SundialKitFluent (Vapor's ORM) - https://docs.vapor.codes/fluent/overview/NSPersistentCloudKitContainer - https://developer.apple.com/documentation/coredata/nspersistentcloudkitcontainerPractical Core Data - https://practicalcoredata.comPractical Combine - https://practicalcombine.comPractical Swift Concurrency - https://practicalswiftconcurrency.comRelated EpisodesIndependence UpdateEveryone Thinks They're Good at Prompting with Joe Fabisevich120% Likely with Cihat GündüzPlatforms State of the Union 2026 with Peter WithamActually Really UsefulPractical Year - Part 2 with Donny WalsPractical Year - Part 1 with Donny WalsPractical Entrepreneur with Donny WalsPractical Combine with Donny WalsChapters(00:00) - The Agentic Coding Shift (15:55) - The Gym Crash Story (20:54) - Architecting for Agents (34:04) - Task & Issue Tracking (37:40) - Core Data vs. SwiftData WatchClick here to watch a video of this episode. TranscriptClick here to view the episode transcript. Support the Show ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★  Thanks to our supporters: Thanks to our monthly supporters work design Steven Lipton  Welcome new supporters: Social MediaLinkedIn - @leogdionGitHub - @brightdigitGitHub - @leogdionMastodon - @[email protected] - @brightdigitX - @leogdionX - @brightdigitCreditsMusic from https://filmmusic.io "Blippy Trance" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

After almost 250 episodes, Leo gives an update on what he's working on and what he's interested in. From passive timer apps, static site generation, to sub repos and RSS feeds.Related LinksWWDC 2026 & CelestraCelestraWWDC26: What's new in the Foundation Models frameworkWWDC26: Meet Core AIBushelswift-buildbrightdigit/swift-buildIntroducing swift-build (blog post)Swift.org Nightly ToolchainsAt LeastAt Leastbrightdigit/SundialKitbrightdigit/SundialKitStreambrightdigit.com Website Upgradebrightdigit.com repoJohnSundell/PublishJohnSundell/ShellOutJohnSundell/Inkswiftlang/swift-subprocessswiftlang/swift-markdownkabiroberai/node-swift (NodeSwift)Tailwind CSSgit-subrepoingydotnet/git-subrepoBen ScheirmanCommunity & OutroConsultation (ZCal)PatreonNewsletterDonny WalsSaleem Abdulrasool (@compnerd)Swift on WindowsRelated EpisodesActually Really Useful120% Likely with Cihat GündüzPlatforms State of the Union 2026 with Peter WithamWho's Wendy with Joannis OrlandosMilk Diary with Kaya ThomasDeconstructing Xcode with xTool with Kabir OberaiThe Great SwiftUI Migration - Part 2 with Ben ScheirmanThe Great SwiftUI Migration - Part 1 with Ben ScheirmanHacking with Ignite with Paul HudsonNow You Know What I'm Doing This SummerChapters(00:00) - WWDC 2026 and Celestra (01:35) - swift-build (02:23) - AtLeast (05:26) - brightdigit.com (05:45) - git-subrepo (06:47) - Join the Community WatchClick here to watch a video of this episode. TranscriptClick here to view the episode transcript. Support the Show ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★  Thanks to our supporters: Thanks to our monthly supporters work design Steven Lipton  Welcome new supporters: Social MediaLinkedIn - @leogdionGitHub - @brightdigitGitHub - @leogdionMastodon - @[email protected] - @brightdigitX - @leogdionX - @brightdigitCreditsMusic from https://filmmusic.io "Blippy Trance" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

Software development has changed a lot. On today's episode, Joe Fabisevich talks about building with AI without falling into the trap of "work slop," why prompting is a communication skill, where Apple fits in, and Broadcast — his new Swift logging library for developers and AI agents.GuestBuild.msJoe Fabisevich :verified: (@[email protected]) - Macaw-SocialJoe Fabisevich (@mergesort.me) — BlueskyGithub (@mergesort)https://www.threads.net/@mergesortfabisevi.chRelated LinksArtifacts | Fabisevi.chSupporting Markdown Search For LLMsAI (Without the Hype)WorkslopBeing A 1.5-10x Developermergesort/Broadcast: Simple and composable logging for Swift apps, servers, and coding agents.AtLeast — Passive Timer for Apple WatchMonthBar - Track your month's progressRelated Episodes120% Likely with Cihat GündüzPlatforms State of the Union 2026 with Peter WithamWho's Wendy with Joannis OrlandosActually Really UsefulPractical Year - Part 1 with Donny WalsPlinky with Joe FabisevichChatGPTovski with Kris SlazinskiChapters(00:00) - Work Slop (13:02) - Verifiable Tasks (25:51) - Building Agents (32:06) - Careers & Hiring (43:31) - Daily Setup (53:00) - WWDC 2026 (01:09:07) - AI Economics (01:20:33) - Broadcast Logging WatchClick here to watch a video of this episode. TranscriptClick here to view the episode transcript. Support the Show ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★  Thanks to our supporters: Thanks to our monthly supporters work design Steven Lipton  Welcome new supporters: Social MediaLinkedIn - @leogdionGitHub - @brightdigitGitHub - @leogdionMastodon - @[email protected] - @brightdigitX - @leogdionX - @brightdigitCreditsMusic from https://filmmusic.io "Blippy Trance" by Kevin MacLeod (https://incompetech.com) License: CC BY (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)