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#164 - Why Most Healing Work Fails & What Actually Works - Pierre-Etienne

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In this episode, I sit down with Pierre-Etienne Vannier to explore the intersection of trauma healing, facilitation, and spiritual practice. Pierre-Etienne trains Practitioners to Master Somatic Trauma Healing & Create Transformational Client Results & Founder of “Embodied Resilience Mastery Program” - he shares how his journey from international management to somatic and spiritual work has shaped his understanding of what true healing requires.

We discuss the importance of nervous system regulation as the primary “medicine” a facilitator offers, the power of titration and safety in trauma work, and why embodied experience matters more than intellectual knowledge. Pierre-Etienne also speaks to the spiritual dimension of healing — drawing on Sufi and Islamic traditions that invite remembrance, surrender, and connection to something greater.

If you’re a facilitator, therapist, or seeker interested in the art of holding space and walking the path of embodied healing, this conversation is for you.


TIMESTAMPS

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00:00 - Intro

01:54 - How Was Humanwork Experience?

10:36 - The Western World

12:14 - Who Is Pierre?

14:58 - Wisdom Of Nervous System Work

20:21 - What does it take to change?

24:34 - How To Create Safety

28:10 - What's In the way of Safety?

32:14 - Is The Awakening Happening?

34:06 - Integrity In Healing Spaces?

39:01 - Why Do We Lack Spiritual Connection

43:47 -Do You Lack Faith?

55:03 - Don't Get Stuck In One State

59:14 - Working With People To Heal

1:05:35 - How Can We Tell What Works?


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