ETH to $22k by 2030? | VanEck's Matthew Sigel

Is the crypto bull market over? The crypto sentiment has suddenly flipped bearish. The skeptics are saying that the ETH ETF will amount to nothing. Gox will dump on you. There are no new crypto use cases. There’s too much token supply. The bearish list goes on. So what gives? Is this just summertime slowness or is the bull market over? ------ ✨ Mint the episode on Zora ✨ https://zora.co/collect/zora:0x0c294913a7596b427add7dcbd6d7bbfc7338d53f/21 ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🐙KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://k.xyz/bankless-pod-q2    ⁠ 🌐 TRANSPORTER | CROSS CHAINS WITH CONFIDENCE https://transporter.io/ 🔗CELO | CEL2 COMING SOON https://bankless.cc/Celo 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle ⚡️ CARTESI | LINUX-POWERED ROLLUPS https://bankless.cc/CartesiGovernance    ⚖️ARBITRUM | SCALING ETHEREUM ⁠https://bankless.cc/Arbitrum  ------ TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES 0:00 Intro 1:15 Current Market Sentiment https://x.com/splitcapital/status/1805346083981201775  https://x.com/biancoresearch/status/1805341535967527200  https://x.com/SplitCapital/status/1805349168229367936  https://x.com/cryptobran_/status/1805331025905729983  https://x.com/mrjasonchoi/status/1804107651854594071  https://x.com/tmnxeq/status/1804913082571071679 12:49 ETH ETF is Bearish https://x.com/Rewkang/status/1804735595111211104 16:26 Gox will Dump on You  https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1805168222645244311  https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1804138577204289900 19:20 No New Crypto Use Cases https://x.com/0xCygaar/status/1801667353207521364  https://x.com/divine_economy/status/1802510497633198565  https://x.com/milesdeutscher/status/1800190273517211699 26:09 Any Bulls Left?  https://x.com/econoar/status/1805447135141544280  https://x.com/milesdeutscher/status/1805249025643581761  https://x.com/fejau_inc/status/1805242741494005780      https://x.com/intangiblecoins/status/1805244957252284916  https://x.com/intangiblecoins/status/1805244973261914582  https://x.com/pythianism/status/1805608579422208061  https://x.com/pythianism/status/1804987849059787113  https://x.com/iamDCinvestor/status/1804998114090389795  https://x.com/cburniske/status/1805308535611502763  https://imgur.com/DXcyjMS 43:27  Closing & Disclosures ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures 

What if the information anarchy of the internet spells the downfall of liberalism? Economist Noah Smith and Ethereum Founder Vitalik Buterin join us for a fascinating discussion on why Authoritarianism might be the answer to the current information warfare. Yes, you heard that right. We start the episode by defining liberalism, how it has brought excessive polarization and why totalitarianism might be the only solution left. We then steelman the case against this same argument and how blockchains and crypto could play a role in all this. ------ ✨ Mint the episode on Zora ✨ https://zora.co/collect/zora:0x0c294913a7596b427add7dcbd6d7bbfc7338d53f/20?referrer=0x077Fe9e96Aa9b20Bd36F1C6290f54F8717C5674E  ------ 📣STAKEWISE | LIQUID SOLO STAKING https://bankless.cc/Pod_StakeWise   ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🐙KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://k.xyz/bankless-pod-q2    ⁠  🌐 TRANSPORTER | CROSS CHAINS WITH CONFIDENCE https://transporter.io/  🔗CELO | CEL2 COMING SOON https://bankless.cc/Celo  🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle  ⚡️ CARTESI | LINUX-POWERED ROLLUPS https://bankless.cc/CartesiGovernance    ⚖️ARBITRUM | SCALING ETHEREUM ⁠https://bankless.cc/Arbitrum  ------ TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 8:53 Defining Liberalism 21:50 Information Warfare 42:17 Summarizing the Argument 55:09 Could the Thesis be Wrong? 1:11:12 Information Leviathans 1:34:13 The Role of Blockchains 1:38:22 Closing & Disclaimers ------ RESOURCES Vitalik Buterin https://x.com/VitalikButerin   Noah Smith https://x.com/Noahpinion   Noahpinion Blog https://www.noahpinion.blog/   ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures ⁠ 

Why should we fight for Freedom of Speech? That’s the question that Free Speech Lawyer and Writer Greg Lukianoff helps us answer today. Using first principles, Greg goes deep into the importance of Freedom of Speech, “Free Speech Culture”, what happens to Free Speech when new technologies like the printing press and the internet are introduced, and how all this intersects with blockchains and crypto. ------ 🎬 DEBRIEF | Ryan & David Unpacking the Episode: https://www.bankless.com/debrief-the-greg-lukianoff-interview  ------ ✨ Mint the episode on Zora ✨ https://zora.co/collect/zora:0x0c294913a7596b427add7dcbd6d7bbfc7338d53f/19?referrer=0x077Fe9e96Aa9b20Bd36F1C6290f54F8717C5674E  ------ 📣STAKEWISE | LIQUID SOLO STAKING https://bankless.cc/Pod_StakeWise   ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🐙KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://k.xyz/bankless-pod-q2    ⁠ ⚡️ CARTESI | LINUX-POWERED ROLLUPS https://bankless.cc/CartesiGovernance    ⚖️ARBITRUM | SCALING ETHEREUM ⁠https://bankless.cc/Arbitrum  🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle  🌐 TRANSPORTER | CROSS CHAINS WITH CONFIDENCE https://transporter.io/  🔗CELO | CEL2 COMING SOON https://bankless.cc/Celo  ------ TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 6:19 Defining Free Speech 15:59 Free Speech Origins 19:43 The Printing Press 37:11 The Constitution 39:50 Free Speech Culture 47:48 What Protects Free Speech 55:57 Generational Differences 1:09:17 Censorship Societies 1:16:29 The Internet 1:21:04 AI & Free Speech 1:23:04 Web2 Censorship 1:27:17 Freedom to Transact 1:36:38 Privacy 1:38:30 How to Get Involved 1:40:49 Closing & Disclaimers ------ RESOURCES Greg Lukianoff https://x.com/glukianoff  The Eternally Radical Idea Newsletter https://greglukianoff.substack.com/   FIRE https://www.thefire.org/   Support FIRE Today! https://www.thefire.org/donate   The Canceling of the American Mind https://www.amazon.com/Canceling-American-Mind-Undermines-Threatens-ebook/dp/B0BTZT9PLM/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&sr=8-1   Free Speech: A History from Socrates to Social Media  https://www.amazon.com/Free-Speech-History-Socrates-Social/dp/1541600495/ref=sr_1_1?sr=8-1   Revolution in the Age of Social Media https://www.amazon.com/Revolution-Age-Social-Media-Insurrection-ebook/dp/B00GVZJWAM   Free Speech, The People's Darling Privilege https://www.amazon.com/Free-Speech-Peoples-Darling-Privilege/dp/0822325292   ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures⁠  

Bankless Friday Weekly Rollup  3rd Week of June 2024 The SEC drops all charges against Ethereum 2.0—could it now be recognized as a commodity? Plus, hints surface about the launch date of the ETH ETF! Airdrop season is still alive and well! LayerZero and zkSync tokens launched recently. Find out if you’re eligible and the market’s reaction. And, did Baron Trump really launch a DJT memecoin on Solana? We unpack the latest buzz and drama. Tune in for all the details and so much more! ------ ✨ Mint the episode on Zora ✨ https://zora.co/collect/zora:0x0c294913a7596b427add7dcbd6d7bbfc7338d53f/18 ------ 📣STAKEWISE | LIQUID SOLO STAKING https://bankless.cc/Pod_StakeWise    ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🐙KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://k.xyz/bankless-pod-q2    ⁠  🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle  ⚡️ CARTESI | LINUX-POWERED ROLLUPS https://bankless.cc/CartesiGovernance    ⚖️ARBITRUM | SCALING ETHEREUM ⁠https://bankless.cc/Arbitrum  🌐 TRANSPORTER | CROSS CHAINS WITH CONFIDENCE https://transporter.io/  🔗CELO | CEL2 COMING SOON https://bankless.cc/Celo  ------ TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES 0:00 Intro 2:55 MARKET https://x.com/WhalePanda/status/1802958996392870368  https://www.theblock.co/data/crypto-markets/bitcoin-etf/spot-bitcoin-etf-flows  https://x.com/CryptoDonAlt/status/1802743515941609572  https://www.tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=AMEX%3ASPY  https://x.com/saylor/status/1803763490928119950  9:35 ETH Price & ETH ETF Going Live  https://x.com/EricBalchunas/status/1801725292404261308  13:03 Total Crypto Market Cap 13:46 L2Beat https://dune.com/hildobby/blobs  https://dune.com/sealaunch/dex-metrics-on-base?Select+Date+Granularity_ed0f38=week&Select+Timeframe_ed47bb=365  https://imgur.com/YuXZfAv  https://x.com/WazzCrypto/status/1803858912166449480  https://twitter.com/wbnns/status/1803217959479025857    18:40 Combo ETH + BTC ETF https://x.com/NateGeraci/status/1803080047303036971  https://x.com/Matt_Hougan/status/1803767324605886515  https://x.com/matthew_sigel/status/1801342560977190937  https://youtu.be/T2Ur8Dhc3uQ?si=Obqn5eY89sEUEdwi  https://youtu.be/KUMGYEKIiGw?si=fS4pae1N_rr1f0C0   21:35 AIRDROP Season in full swing Bankless Claimables and AIrdrop Hunter https://www.bankless.com/claimables/reveal  https://x.com/LayerZero_Fndn/status/1803744985029788042  https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/layerzero  https://x.com/LayerZero_Fndn/status/1803742303204323494  https://layerzero.foundation/claim  https://www.theblock.co/post/300389/zksync-live-mcap-airdrop  https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/zksync  https://x.com/TheZKNation/status/1802626483770265991  https://x.com/TheZKNation/status/1801378349442269345  https://docs.zknation.io/zk-token/zk-token-faq  https://x.com/nansen_ai/status/1803003153820082270   https://x.com/cobie/status/1803071393484939602  31:58 MOTHER + DADDY Update  https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/mother-iggy  https://x.com/IGGYAZALEA  https://x.com/jimcramer/status/1800893795346637193  https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/daddy-tate  37:21 What’s going on with $DJT?  https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/trumpcoin-2  https://x.com/PirateWires/status/1802825492405669930  https://www.newsweek.com/crypto-djt-barron-trump-martin-shkreli-1915147  https://x.com/ArkhamIntel/status/1803161788164288875  https://x.com/ArkhamIntel/status/1803471430727901455  https://x.com/zachxbt/status/1803240784436797871  https://x.com/zachxbt/status/1803371615524364503  https://x.com/jmgramke/status/1803792368388264399  https://x.com/WatcherGuru/status/1803759609808564306  https://x.com/MartinShkreli/status/1803821631279612367  50:38 U.S. SEC closes investigation in Ethereum! https://x.com/Consensys/status/1803230653120659641  https://x.com/laurabrooksie1/status/1803237492130234633  https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1803412140289560849  https://x.com/RyanSAdams/status/1803783619997052977  54:30 BitWise launches a new Ethereum ad for their incoming ETH ETF  https://x.com/BitwiseInvest/status/1803789737620078875  https://zora.co/collect/base:0x9ada0269656e7855c95f54a34d4ef94f78892038/1  1:00:12 Kraken exploit for 3m and some drama - vs Certik  https://x.com/c7five/status/1803403565865771370  https://x.com/P3b7_/status/1803479749005549647  https://x.com/tayvano_/status/1803478049280893040  https://x.com/sethforprivacy/status/1803520795735683528  1:06:34 Donald Trump wants all remaining Bitcoin to be 'Made in USA' https://x.com/intangiblecoins/status/1801771689249787936  1:08:06 Optimism & Tether Releases https://x.com/Optimism/status/1800974991313469445  https://chain.box  https://x.com/Alloy_tether/status/1802676443781923289  1:10:45 Bankless ETHCC Meetup https://lu.ma/k0amrrnz  1:12:10 Who won the ETH ETF Pitch competition?  https://www.jokerace.io/contest/base/0x0f2211f6727e85dbfae20e7dbfe57875a1f2b706  1:13:45 Another voting for Bankless Nation!  https://www.jokerace.io/contest/base/0x0bac0ec9b6aeafa6c2212f67a67950940eda63a7  1:15:38 MEME of the Week  https://x.com/PleasrDAO/status/1803572250278514999  1:16:17 Closing & Disclaimers ------ Not financial or tax advice. 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Sam Jernigan, the “Unofficial ETH Maxi of Wall Street”, has been evangelizing Ethereum to institutional funds and billionaires from inside the house for the past five years. Having the perfect blend of deep Ethereum knowledge and the full Wall Street experience, Sam guides us through how he became an ETH Maxi, why the lack of understanding of ETH in TradFi is the most bullish case for the asset and what the future holds for ETH institutional adoption. ------ ✨ Mint the episode on Zora ✨ https://zora.co/collect/zora:0x0c294913a7596b427add7dcbd6d7bbfc7338d53f/17  ------ 📣STAKEWISE | LIQUID SOLO STAKING https://bankless.cc/Pod_StakeWise  ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🐙KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://k.xyz/bankless-pod-q2    ⁠ 🌐 TRANSPORTER | CROSS CHAINS WITH CONFIDENCE https://transporter.io/  🔗CELO | CEL2 COMING SOON https://bankless.cc/Celo  🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle  ⚡️ CARTESI | LINUX-POWERED ROLLUPS https://bankless.cc/CartesiGovernance    ⚖️ARBITRUM | SCALING ETHEREUM ⁠https://bankless.cc/Arbitrum   ------ TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 7:47 Defining TradFi 20:05 Ethereum’s P/E Ratio 23:49 Sam’s Background 40:44 Becoming an ETH Maxi 52:57 The State of ETH in TradFi 57:38 ETH Bull Case 1:06:11 The Flippening 1:12:11 ETH ETF 1:19:26 Security vs Commodity Debate 1:24:00 TradFi: Friend or Foe? 1:34:39 Regulation 1:46:07 Closing & Disclaimers ------ RESOURCES Sam Jernigan on X https://x.com/sjerniganiv   Sam Jernigan on LikedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/samjernigan07302015/   ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures⁠    

In this episode, David Hoffman is joined by Matthew Sigel, Head of Digital Assets Research at VanEck, to unpack VanEck's groundbreaking ETH 2030 report. They discuss the $154,000 bull case, $22,000 base case, and $340 bear case for Ethereum, and the factors behind these predictions.  Matthew dives deep into the role of ETH ETFs and shares insights into ETH's evolving narrative in institutional portfolios. He also provides interesting analogies and comparisons between ETH and Web 2.0, explaining how VanEck will help traditional investors understand and invest in ETH using these narratives and real market data.  ------ ✨ Mint the episode on Zora ✨ https://zora.co/collect/zora:0x0c294913a7596b427add7dcbd6d7bbfc7338d53f/16  ------ 📣STAKEWISE | LIQUID SOLO STAKING https://bankless.cc/Pod_StakeWise    ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🐙KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://k.xyz/bankless-pod-q2    ⁠ 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle  ⚡️CARTESI | LINUX-POWERED ROLLUPS https://bankless.cc/CartesiGovernance    ⚖️ARBITRUM | SCALING ETHEREUM ⁠https://bankless.cc/Arbitrum    🌐 TRANSPORTER | CROSS CHAINS WITH CONFIDENCE https://transporter.io/  🔗CELO | CEL2 COMING SOON https://bankless.cc/Celo  ------ TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 7:16 VanEck Vibe Check ? 8:11 VanEck ETH 2030 Price Prediction Report  12:31 Last Year’s Report vs. Present Report  15:10 Ethereum Narrative For Retail 19:14 Pitching ETH To Customers 25:15 Parameters For Bear, Base & Bull? 28:49 What If ETH Reaches $154,000  32:31 ETH’s Most Bearish & Bullish Scenarios  33:40 Solana’s MEV vs. ETH’s MEV 41:28  BTC & ETH Allocation In Portfolio  45:59 Can Data Help Matthew Convince Customers? 49:30 $15B In ETF Assets 50:30 Closing & Disclosures  ------ RESOURCES: Matthew Sigel https://x.com/matthew_sigel  VanEck https://www.vaneck.com/us/en/  https://www.vaneck.com/us/en/blogs/digital-assets/matthew-sigel-eth-2030-price-target/  ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures ⁠ 

Now that CZ is gone, who’s going to fill his shoes? His name is Richard Teng, the new Binance CEO. He’s joining the podcast today to not only share the story of how he got here, but also to define his vision for the future of Binance. We ask him: Who is Richard Teng? What was it like to work with CZ? Why Crypto? What is going on in Nigeria? Bull Market Predictions? If you want to know who’s taking charge in the next era of Binance, this episode is for you.  ------ 🎬 DEBRIEF | Ryan & David unpacking the episode: https://www.bankless.com/debrief-the-richard-teng-interview  ------ ✨ Mint the episode on Zora ✨ https://zora.co/collect/zora:0x0c294913a7596b427add7dcbd6d7bbfc7338d53f/15?referrer=0x077Fe9e96Aa9b20Bd36F1C6290f54F8717C5674E  ------ 📣STAKEWISE | LIQUID SOLO STAKING https://bankless.cc/Pod_StakeWise  ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🐙KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://k.xyz/bankless-pod-q2    ⁠ ⚡️ CARTESI | LINUX-POWERED ROLLUPS https://bankless.cc/CartesiGovernance    ⚖️ARBITRUM | SCALING ETHEREUM ⁠https://bankless.cc/Arbitrum  🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle  🌐 TRANSPORTER | CROSS CHAINS WITH CONFIDENCE https://transporter.io/  🔗CELO | CEL2 COMING SOON https://bankless.cc/Celo  ------ TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 7:16 Who’s Richard Teng 15:54 The Last 2 Years 24:30 Filling CZ Shoes 34:58 The Future of Binance 48:33 What is Going on in Nigeria? 54:31 Why Crypto? 1:03:33 BNB Chain 1:05:48 Richard Teng’s Routine 1:08:25 Bull Market Predictions 1:14:21 Advice for Investors 1:16:17 User Fund Security 1:19:31 Closing & Disclaimers ------ RESOURCES Richard Teng https://x.com/_RichardTeng   Tigran Gambaryan Article https://www.binance.com/en/blog/leadership/from-richard-teng-binance-ceo-tigran-gambaryan-is-innocent-and-must-be-released-3634612934164622056   Binance Proof of Reserves https://www.binance.com/en/proof-of-reserves   ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures ⁠  

Bankless Friday Weekly Rollup  2nd Week of June 2024 ------ ✨ Mint the episode on Zora ✨ https://zora.co/collect/zora:0x9171d31d50857506ebf5c2f20e5690a126ea6687/2  ------ 📣STAKEWISE | LIQUID SOLO STAKING https://bankless.cc/Pod_StakeWise    ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🐙KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://k.xyz/bankless-pod-q2    ⁠  🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle  ⚡️ CARTESI | LINUX-POWERED ROLLUPS https://bankless.cc/CartesiGovernance    🏠 CASA | SECURE YOUR GENERATIONAL WEALTH https://bankless.cc/Casa   🌐 TRANSPORTER | CROSS CHAINS WITH CONFIDENCE https://transporter.io/  🔗CELO | CEL2 COMING SOON https://bankless.cc/Celo  ------ TIMESTAMPS & RESOURCES 0:00 Intro 3:31 Markets 8:20 Gary G Says ETH ETF Approval “Sometime in Summer” https://x.com/tier10k/status/1801261940615848004  9:19 L2 Update 11:04  The Fed expects to cut rates just once this year https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/12/fed-meeting-today-on-interest-rate.html  15:41 Will BTC ETF follow the gold ETF success path?   https://x.com/hongkim__/status/1799442365892985257  20:48 ZKSync introduced ZK token  https://x.com/TheZKNation/status/1800424206129357194  https://app.aevo.xyz/perpetual/zk  https://x.com/eekeyguy_eth/status/1800461976969035910  https://blog.zknation.io/zk-token/  https://zknation.ghost.io/content/images/2024/06/points.png  https://x.com/LibraryDefi/status/1800589632909832509  https://x.com/Gautamguptagg/status/1800539906923733397  https://x.com/Gautamguptagg/status/1800539906923733397  https://x.com/TheZKNation/status/1801020410563060031  https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1801024526001815616  https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1800758353511207103  36:46 Speaking of Airdrops: Taiko launched their TAIKO token  https://x.com/taikoxyz/status/1798336750668136851  Find out whether you are eligible via Claimables!  https://bankless.cc/3Jte55n   38:33 Optimism’s fault proofs are live!  https://x.com/l2beat/status/1800530188171674070  https://x.com/VitalikButerin/status/1800547329931620625  49:23 Pectra is about to became the biggest upgrade of Ethereum history:  https://x.com/sassal0x/status/1798869850200412383  55:34 Symbiotic introduced their restaking platform  https://x.com/symbioticfi/status/1800530004776022493  59:29 Eigen Labs acquired Rio Network  https://x.com/eigen_labs/status/1800888626642899321  1:01:41 Crypto:The Game was acquired by Uniswap!  https://x.com/cryptothegame_/status/1800199946739822594  1:06:28 PleasrDAO releases the WuTang Album https://pitchfork.com/news/wu-tang-clan-once-upon-a-time-in-shaolin-turned-into-nft/  https://www.thealbum.com/  1:09:12 Terraform Labs agreed to pay SEC $4.5B!  https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2024/06/12/terraform-labs-do-kwon-agree-to-pay-sec-a-combined-45b-in-civil-fraud-case/  https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1800955721955283053      1:11:44 Alchemy introduced platform for building rollups  https://x.com/alchemyplatform/status/1798747911226040679  1:13:03 New Paradigm Fund https://x.com/matthuang/status/1801283717664526835  1:14:41 The Daily Gwei  https://www.youtube.com/@TheDailyGwei/videos   https://x.com/thedailygwei   https://x.com/sassal0x  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/into-the-ether/id1443920565   1:15:49 Closing & Disclaimers ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures 

Today on the show, we’re exploring the frontier of ZK Rollups on Bitcoin!  The Bitcoin L2 landscape is standing on the shoulders of this technical implementation called BitVM. We brought Robin Linus, one of the author’s of the BitVM White Paper, to not only dive into how BitVM got started, but more importantly, what it means for the future of Bitcoin. ------ 🎬 DEBRIEF | Ryan & David unpacking the episode: https://www.bankless.com/debrief-the-robin-linus-interview  ------ ✨ Mint the episode on Zora ✨ https://zora.co/collect/zora:0x0c294913a7596b427add7dcbd6d7bbfc7338d53f/14?referrer=0x077Fe9e96Aa9b20Bd36F1C6290f54F8717C5674E  ------ 📣 SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24  https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium  ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🐙KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://k.xyz/bankless-pod-q2    ⁠  ⚡️ CARTESI | LINUX-POWERED ROLLUPS https://bankless.cc/CartesiGovernance    🏠 CASA | SECURE YOUR GENERATIONAL WEALTH https://bankless.cc/Casa   🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle  🌐 TRANSPORTER | CROSS CHAINS WITH CONFIDENCE https://transporter.io/  🔗CELO | CEL2 COMING SOON https://bankless.cc/Celo  ------ TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 5:03 Who is Robin Linus? 10:20 Why Bitcoin? 16:19 Bitcoin Needs to Scale 22:15 BitVM Eureka Moment 24:31 The State of BitVM 27:19 BitVM vs Ethereum Rollups 33:45 How Does BitVM Work? 46:07 BitVM Critiques 55:07 The Bitcoin L2 Space 59:33 The BitVM Endgame 1:03:07 The Future of Bitcoin 1:07:09 Closing & Disclaimers ------ RESOURCES Robin Linus https://x.com/robin_linus   Robin Linus Website https://robinlinus.com/   BitVM https://bitvm.org/   ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures ⁠ 

The Ethereum ETF is coming. What’s the best narrative for ETH to sell to TradFi/Wall Street? Ryan and David discuss the 7 leading ETH Narratives and then have a pitch-off amongst themselves. Each of them prepared a 1-2 minute pitch and then they each spend some time unpacking each other’s pitch and analyzing each point. Bankless Citizens get to vote - whose was better? Ryan or David’s? The winner gets a bragging rights POAP.  ------ 📣BANKLESS CITIZENS VOTE HERE https://www.jokerace.io/contest/base/0x0f2211f6727e85dbfae20e7dbfe57875a1f2b706  ------ ✨ Mint the episode on Zora ✨ https://zora.co/collect/zora:0x0c294913a7596b427add7dcbd6d7bbfc7338d53f/13?referrer=0x077Fe9e96Aa9b20Bd36F1C6290f54F8717C5674E  ------ BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🐙KRAKEN | MOST-TRUSTED CRYPTO EXCHANGE https://k.xyz/bankless-pod-q2    ⁠  🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle  ⚡️ CARTESI | LINUX-POWERED ROLLUPS https://bankless.cc/CartesiGovernance    🏠 CASA | SECURE YOUR GENERATIONAL WEALTH https://bankless.cc/Casa   🌐 TRANSPORTER | CROSS CHAINS WITH CONFIDENCE https://transporter.io/  🔗CELO | CEL2 COMING SOON https://bankless.cc/Celo  ------ TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 2:26 Eric Balchunas https://x.com/EricBalchunas/status/1794023427327533456  4:44 ETH Narratives https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/1795595286972383494   5:58 Ethereum is a Tokenization Platform https://twitter.com/ChainLinkGod/status/1798133271139901668  https://twitter.com/ChainLinkGod/status/1798133271139901668/photo/1  9:26 Ethereum is an app store https://twitter.com/jdorman81/status/1792927796353814640  13:56 Operating system and app store https://x.com/RasterlyRock/status/1791217181012701682  17:15 ETH is Digital Oil ​​https://twitter.com/0xkydo/status/1740750772093296938   20:37 ETH is an Internet Bond https://www.bankless.com/eth-the-internet-bond  23:38 Programmable Money https://x.com/econoar/status/1124311475428790273  25:59 "ETH is Ultra Sound Money" https://twitter.com/drakefjustin/status/1352734923703123968  31:44 Pitches + Debrief/Analysis + Vote https://www.jokerace.io/contest/base/0x0f2211f6727e85dbfae20e7dbfe57875a1f2b706  44:05 Closing & Disclaimers ------ Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures