Scott Hanselman: The Future of Software Engineering - Episode 382

Scott Hanselman is a teacher at heart. He speaks all over to whoever will listen. He's have written code that you, dear listener, has used. Scott has been blogging, coding, and podcasting a LONG time. He codes, writes, speaks, empowers, promotes, braids, learns and listens - usually not in that order. And he's a Vice President at Microsoft in his day job focusing on Developer Community. You can find him on YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, and Mastodon! His Hanselminutes podcast has surpassed 900 episodes, and his Azure Friday show, over 750 episodes. Connect with him at hanselman.com Mentioned in This Episode Episode 280  Scott Hanselman's TEDx Portland Talk Want to Learn More?  Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

Glenn is a Principal Product Manager for the App Platform team within the Developer Division at Microsoft, focusing on .NET. Before joining Microsoft Glenn was a developer in Australia where he worked on software for various government departments.   Mentioned in this Episode X Account Episode 293 Episode 58  Github Microsoft Devblog  Building Cloud Native apps with .NET 8 Simplifying Cloud-Native Development with .NET 8 Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

Jared Parsons is a Developer Manager for the .NET Tools team at Microsoft. He's also done extensive work on the C# Compiler Team. Everybody tuning in probably uses his code on a day-to-day basis! Jared started out at Microsoft over 20 years ago as a Developer; moved on to become a Senior Developer; then Principal Developer on Midori OS; and most recently, the Principal Developer on C# Compiler Team, and now a Developer Manager. He's spoken at many conferences, like Microsoft Build and others. Mentioned in this Episode Episode 287 Episode 53  Github - Rosyln  Github - Analyzers  Github - Csharplang  Jared's LinkedIn  Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

Chris has 25 years experience as a seasoned SaaS and AI product leader known for practical, people-first strategies to harness value from Generative AI for operational excellence. Chris developed the AI Vantage framework—a strategic approach that emphasizes process-driven transformation to unlock immediate and long-term value from GenAI technologies. He works for Viewport as the Head of Technology and is a respected voice in the AI and product management space, frequently sharing insights through training, blogs, and speaking engagements. Chris holds certifications in SAFe Product Ownership and Pragmatic Marketing, and is an alumnus of Texas A&M University. Mentioned in this Episode Chris' Website Chris' X Account Chris' LinkedIn Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

Alvin is a senior content developer at Microsoft, author, and longtime leader in the .NET developer community. With over 27 years of experience in software development, Alvin has been recognized as a Microsoft MVP for more than a decade, honored for his contributions to Windows development, Visual Studio, and the broader Microsoft ecosystem. He is currently writing docs for multiple Microsoft technologies. In 2021, Alvin wrote a book for Packt Publishing, Learn WinUI 3.0. This is the first book Alvin authored and has been the technical reviewer for eight other .NET-related titles from Packt. Alvin is a founding board member of the TechBash Foundation and organizer of the annual TechBash developer conference in Pocono Manor, PA. Alvin resides in Pennsylvania with his wife and three daughters.   Mentioned in this Episode: LinkedIn Website  Alvin's Book  Episode 214  Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

Dan Clarke is a seasoned software consultant, Microsoft MVP, and founder of Everstack Ltd. Dan is widely known for his contributions to the .NET ecosystem and hosts the Unhandled Exception Podcast.  With a background in DevOps, Azure, and developer tooling, Dan brings a thoughtful, systems-level perspective to software craftsmanship. His work spans technical education, community leadership, and content creation—from blog posts and newsletters to YouTube tutorials and conference talks.  Dan resides in the UK and when he isn't programming, he enjoys daily weightlifting, playing the guitar, and a past life of skydiving and motorcycling. Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Dan Clarke Website  Dan's Podcast  Dan's Newsletter  Dan's Youtube Dan's Blog  Dan's Linkedin  Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

Andrew Lock is a staff software engineer at Datadog and educator whose contributions to the .NET ecosystem have shaped how developers approach modern web applications.  Located in the UK, Andrew is a Microsoft MVP, Author of ASP.NET Core in Action, and has an active blog all about his experience working with .NET and ASP.NET Core.   Topics of Discussion: [2:56] Andrew talks about appreciating the joy of coding and the minutiae of figuring out the correct way to do things. [3:28] Andrew discusses the various testing frameworks available for .NET, including MS Test, NUnit, XUnit, and TUnit. He explains the history and evolution of these frameworks, noting that XUnit has become the de facto default version. [7:41] Andrew explains his interest in TUnit, a newer testing library that addresses some of the limitations of XUnit. [9:29] TUnit is designed to be fast, supporting parallel execution and native AOT for better performance. [12:16] Is there a way to radically speed up the execution of big test suites? [15:39] Andrew explains the importance of each type of test in providing confidence that the software works as intended. [21:26] Andrew notes that full system tests can provide strong confidence by exercising critical pathways in the application. [29:44] Andrew mentions that tools like Octopus Deploy can be used to automate smoke tests as part of the deployment process. [30:26] Advice to new developers regarding automated testing, and the importance of writing code that is easy to test, and thinking about testing when writing code.   Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Andrew Lock "Andrew Lock: Containers in .NET8 - Ep 281" "Andrew Lock: Web Applications in .NET6 - Ep 198" "Updates to Docker images in .NET8"   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.  

Ben Day is a seasoned software consultant and fractional CTO. With over two decades of experience, he brings a blend of hands-on coding expertise, strategic clarity, and people-focused coaching to help companies — from startups to Fortune 500s — deliver high-quality software faster and with less friction.   As the founder of Benjamin Day Consulting, Inc., Ben offers training, coaching, and architectural guidance rooted in Agile, Scrum, Azure DevOps, and GitHub best practices. He's a Microsoft MVP, a certified Professional Scrum Trainer for over 15 years, and a sought-after speaker who favors storytelling over slide decks.   Topics of Discussion: [2:30] The overlap between music and coding, with Ben explaining the empathy required in both fields. [4:22] Jeffrey mentions the Sunday Sounds app, which allows users to create custom instruments using AI prompts. [6:45] The process of creating Slide Speaker and how Slide Speaker takes screenshots of each moment in a PowerPoint presentation and generates MP4 files. [13:01] Technical details of SlideSpeaker. [16:18] Event-based scaling. [17:10] How SlideSpeaker can be used for internal training presentations and compliance-approved content. [26:06] The opportunity for even more voice models and the ability to create your own custom voice, accent, and tone. [28:11] Ben talks about creating videos that help absolute beginners grasp C#. [32:45] What's next for Ben and Slidespeaker?   Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Benjamin Day Consulting Benjamin Day LinkedIn Benjamin Day YouTube SlidespeakerAI     Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

Josh Arzt is a Senior Solutions Architect with 25+ years of experience modernizing systems, solving complex problems, and delivering scalable cloud solutions. He is an expert in software engineering, DevSecOps, serverless architectures, and cloud migrations. He is a certified professional with a strong publication record in IT and applied mathematics.   His professional career began in the early 2000s, when he discovered .NET and all it had to offer in its early days. Using that framework, paired with his maturation in software architecture, helped shape how he approaches challenges — with curiosity, precision, and a focus on making technology practical and reliable. Along the way, he's led teams, modernized systems, written his own software in performance metrics, and helped organizations adapt to change, but what he values most is working with people: mentoring engineers, collaborating across disciplines, and finding ways to connect technical work to real human impact. He brings both experience and perspective — the ability to see the big picture while never losing sight of the craft that drew him to this field in the first place.   Josh is also a 2025-2026 board election candidate for .NET Foundation.   Topics of Discussion: [2:40] Josh talks about the .NET Foundation and its importance. [7:08] A self-described dorky child, Josh recounts his early days in IT, starting with building computers as a child. [9:33] Josh describes his transition from IT support to software development, driven by his interest in problem-solving. [15:55] Josh discusses the evolution of .NET, from its early days to the current state. [30:40] The importance of choosing the right tool for the job, regardless of the programming language. [32:42] The challenges of managing tech debt and the importance of sustainability in software development. [37:28] Josh shares his positive experiences with the .NET community and the support they provide. [38:08] How thoughtful and consistent feedback shapes the evolution of the .NET ecosystem. [40:02] Continuous learning and adaptation in the field of software development.   Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Joshua Arzt LinkedIn Technical Babble — XCalibur Systems Xcalibur37 GitHub User Xcalibur Stack Overflow     Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

  Lee Brownhill is a Principal Cloud DBA at Cloud Rede with deep expertise in SQL Server performance tuning and automation. With years of experience across Azure and AWS, Lee helps clients optimize their cloud data platforms.   His journey began in IT support, quickly evolving into a passion for SQL Server that led him through roles as a Production and Developer DBA. Now, he's a trusted consultant, known for making systems run faster and smarter.   Lee is a Redgate Community Ambassador, a regular at SQLBits and Data Relay, and once spent a transformative week learning from T-SQL legend Itzik Ben-Gan. Whether on-prem or in the cloud, Lee's mission is simple: make SQL Server shine.   Topics of Discussion: [2:33] Lee shares his career journey, starting in general IT support and transitioning to a role involving Microsoft Dynamics NAV, which introduced him to SQL Server. [5:48] Jeffrey discusses the challenges faced by young programmers who work with databases but lack deep experience. [7:05] Lee highlights common anti-patterns in SQL Server. [8:04] The concept of "row by agonizing row."  [8:46] Lee shares his thought process when addressing performance problems in SQL Server. [9:12] Categorizing issues based on their severity and urgency using a tried-and-true checklist. [10:36] Taking a step back to look at the issue holistically before diving into specific details. [16:04] An optimal database structure and segmentation in 2025, and the importance of normalization to avoid redundant data and ensure data integrity. [20:00] The different ways to host SQL Server in Azure and the benefits of each. [23:02] Metrics for determining if an Azure SQL instance is over- or under-provisioned. [25:02] The value of Azure's costing tools in helping to optimize resource usage and reduce costs. [26:07] The work of site reliability engineers who use KQL to analyze logs and identify issues. [30:09] Lee's blog is a repository of technical topics, including SQL Server, performance tuning, and unit testing. [32:10] SQL Server 2025 features and the importance of learning and understanding new technologies.   Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Lee Brownhill's Blog Lee Brownhill LinkedIn     Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.