NGA Art Talks podcast

The Gleeson Tapes: John Brack

13/11/2026
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NGA Art Talks: The Gleeson Tapes is a new series revisiting key conversations from the James Gleeson Oral History Collection.


In the late 1970s, before the National Gallery of Australia opened its doors, the surrealist artist and writer James Gleeson set out across Australia with a microphone and a mission: to build an oral history archive that captured the stories behind key works of art in the national collection, told by the artists themselves.


In this episode Gleeson speaks with the Melbourne-born painter John Brack, who created some of the most iconic images in 20th century Australian art. Recorded across two sittings, Brack reflects on his early portraits of Melbourne life, which often depicted shop windows and domestic scenes, to later works like The battle 1981-83 which used coloured pencils to evoke themes of conflict and war.

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