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EXCLUSIVE Marcus Aurelius Anderson interviews The Masters Robert Greene and Steven Pressfield on The Art of the Sublime, Writing, Resistance, and More

11/11/2026
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In this episode, Marcus Aurelius Anderson sits down with Robert Greene and Steven Pressfield for the first interview they have ever done together, a fly-on-the-wall conversation between two masters of the craft. Robert shares how a near-fatal stroke changed the way he saw the world and led him to finish his new book, The Law of the Sublime. Steven reads the invocation to the muse he recites before every writing session, and both men open up about tedium, psychedelics, their years in the Hollywood wilderness, and the long road to their first success. The conversation closes on resistance, the force that tries to stop us from becoming who we were born to be, and why we need it in order to grow.

Episode Highlights:

3:59: Robert explains how waking up from his stroke made the world look strange and new, and how that experience told him it was time to write The Law of the Sublime.

16:57: Robert defines the sublime as the moments when your mind travels outside the circle of culturally agreed reality and touches the world as it is.

43:32: Both writers agree that writing is lonely, tedious work, and anyone who wants to do it has to want it more than anything else in the world.

1:01:11: Steven breaks down resistance, the voice that tells you you're not good enough and strikes at predictable points in every project.

Robert Greene is the #1 New York Times bestselling author of The 48 Laws of Power, The Art of Seduction, The 33 Strategies of War, The 50th Law (with 50 Cent), Mastery, The Laws of Human Nature, and The Daily Laws, and an internationally renowned expert on power strategies and human behavior. A classics student who studied ancient Greek at UC Berkeley, he worked in journalism, television, and Hollywood before writing his first book. His new book, The Law of the Sublime, written by hand during his recovery from a stroke, is out November 10, 2026. He lives in Los Angeles.

Steven Pressfield is the bestselling author of The War of Art, Gates of Fire, Tides of War, and The Legend of Bagger Vance. Before his first novel was published, he spent years as an advertising copywriter in New York and a Hollywood screenwriter. His work on resistance and the creative process has become a touchstone for writers, artists, entrepreneurs, and warriors around the world.

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