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The 7 Ways California's Conservatorship System FAILED Nick Reiner's Parents | Why the Law Couldn't Save Them

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Rob and Michele Reiner did what most families cannot do. They got their severely mentally ill son into a court-ordered conservatorship—the most restrictive mental health intervention California allows. A judge found Nick gravely disabled beyond a reasonable doubt. A professional fiduciary was appointed. Nick could be forced into treatment against his will.

And if the charges against him are true, it still wasn't enough to save their lives.

Today on Hidden Killers, we walk through the seven specific failure points built into California's LPS conservatorship system. First: the threshold punishes families who provide support—if you're housing and feeding your mentally ill child, they may not legally qualify as "gravely disabled." Second: future danger doesn't count. California courts have ruled that "probabilistic pessimism" isn't grounds for conservatorship. Third: the one-year expiration with no safety net. Fourth: the cliff after discharge—only 9% of people leaving conservatorships get connected to follow-up care. Fifth: families cannot petition for conservatorship or force renewal. Sixth: the state doesn't track outcomes. Seventh: even if you qualify, there's a one-year wait for hospital beds.

A California study found 83% of patients stay stable during conservatorship. After termination? Only 43%. More than half relapse—and the state says follow-up is voluntary.

Nick's conservatorship ended in 2021. Four years later, his parents are dead. The system worked exactly as designed. That's the problem.

We map every failure point onto the Reiner timeline and ask: what would it take to actually protect families from tragedies like this one?

Nick Reiner is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

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