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10-15% of the Beds Cannot Be Scheduled. | Newsday with Venkat Kavarthapu and 229Project

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October 5, 2026: Venkat Kavarthapu, CEO of Symplr, joins Bill Russell and Drex DeFord. The argument is about where AI time goes. Bill cites a study that put individual productivity up about 20 percent, and asks whether a faster IT administrator sees another patient. Drex's sticking point is the missing link to the CFO: less spend, or more revenue.

Venkat's picture comes from a CFO at a large system. Ten to 15 percent of the beds sit unused, on lock, unable to be scheduled. He puts the cause upstream. Credentialing a physician takes 120 to 180 days. Shrink that, and the capacity can open. Bill's answer is the buying rule. If that is what AI does, buy more of it.

Bill then reads a September 14 piece on health systems cutting jobs, including IT outsourcing at Trinity Health (557 positions on his read) and reductions at Wellstar, PeaceHealth, Maine Health, UPMC, and others. Venkat's frame is single-digit margins and no spare administrative cost. He says half of a nurse manager's time goes to scheduling.

The back half is build versus buy, what Symplr is focused on once Bill asks, and who gets hired when coding is cheap. Venkat wants domain depth and people who can listen to a customer. Drex wants curious problem solvers, because the supply of nurses and doctors is not about to jump. Venkat cites a Becker's finding that 85 percent of nurses, nurse practitioners, and doctors want AI to take administrative work off them, and argues the tool should feel as ordinary as a phone.

Key Points:

  • 0:00 Another patient?

  • 0:30 Atlanta: capacity versus demand

  • 2:20 A 20% gain, and the CFO is not happy

  • 4:26 Symplr

  • 9:08 Ghost beds and a 120-day credential

  • 10:30 Tegria

  • 11:12 The cuts, the build, and who gets hired

  • 12:58 Ping Identity

  • 28:36 That's all for now


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