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In a changing digital world, it is necessary for us to mask our personal identifying information to keep our information safe. In other areas, we need to share more and unmask the personal stories within one another to encourage growth and brotherhood. In this week's episode, a group of fathers comes together to talk about their experiences raising children and the choices they make to prepare the next generation. 

Did you ever think about making a career change? In this week's episode, Davis and Deal talk about making a career pivot and some warning signs you need to know before joining a new organization.

Welcome back!!! In this week's episode, Davis and Deal discuss managing careers that take over your identity and ways to leave the job at work.

In this episode, Davis talks about his experiences on patrol and finding new ways to be comfortable in conflict. At the same time, Deal discusses why tension is good for growth.

Episode 5 Looking from the inside out" (part2)   A rare look into the story of a cop and pastor after crisis….this week Phill Deal shares his perspective as a Pastor and community leader. This episode examines how the perception of law enforcement and community perspectives can be mired by our own internal lens and bias. It's really not what it looks like.  

In this episode, we take a rare look into the story of a cop and pastor after the crisis. We examine how the perception of law enforcement and community perspectives can be mired by our own internal lens and bias. It's really not what it looks like.

In this week's episode, we will talk about the need to reframe our expectations in relationships. We got a little personal in this episode. We talk about the choices we both made in relationships and the outcomes in our lives. When Deal and I were coworkers, we were both single. During that time I met my now wife and got married, Deal did not. Hmmm…

Sometimes, you need a win. We all have moments where a minor victory can keep us going. In this week's episode, Davis and Deal talk about how playing video games and finding the perfect meal can be just as impactful as significant successes in our lives.

When you think about a Hero, what's the first thing that comes into your mind? Who is the first person you think about as a hero in your life? In our first episode, The Hero Complex, we discuss times in our lives when we step into a situation trying to fix a problem, only to create new issues.

Meet co-hosts Davis and Deal! The Upper Level Podcast is a safe and objective space to laugh, learn and share ideas impacting our daily lives. Using their unique and contrasting backgrounds, Davis, a former FBI agent, and Deal, a Senior Pastor, listeners will hear two friends talk about faith, careers, family, relationships, and all that makes life seem complex.