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Looking from the inside out -Part 2

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Episode 5 Looking from the inside out" (part2)   A rare look into the story of a cop and pastor after crisis….this week Phill Deal shares his perspective as a Pastor and community leader. This episode examines how the perception of law enforcement and community perspectives can be mired by our own internal lens and bias. It's really not what it looks like.  

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