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Neil and co-host Kyle Johnson interview Tucker Hatch, a young cowboy and friend of Kyle's, about his background, mindset, and experience in big country. Tucker recounts first meeting Kyle in Nevada and discusses overcoming nerves by being proud of who he is and willing to approach strangers. The conversation focuses heavily on working cow dogs—Border Collies and Kelpies—contrasting practical ranch dogs with trial dogs, and explaining how dogs extend a crew's effectiveness when gathering and trailing cattle. Tucker describes leading a crew at age 22 on the 450,000-acre, unfenced Arapaho Ranch, dealing with extremely wild, feral cattle and dangerous bulls, sorting and shipping slick bulls and old steers, and the challenges of management from the office. He explains how cattle are "trained" through regular handling and trailing, then shares his approach to making money riding outside horses while saving, staying debt-free, and aiming to eventually own land.

 

Topics

01:45 Meeting Kyle First Time

03:29 Making Friends Fast

05:42 Kelpie Power Talk

08:45 Favorite Dogs And Tools

12:08 Dogs On The Job

16:31 Using Dogs With Crews

19:34 Cowboy As Storyteller

22:19 Cow Boss At 22

23:49 Wild Arapaho Ranch

31:46 Culling Feral Bulls

34:45 Training Cattle Year Round

39:52 Better Handling Cattle

41:25 Range Roping Wreck Story

46:48 Horsemanship Life Focus

48:00 Making Money Riding

48:42 Saving and Self Reliance

52:32 Work Ethic and Growth

54:21 Animals Over Drama

56:40 Stay Green Stay Humble

01:00:24 Family Roots and Mom

01:06:50 Five Year Cowboy Plan

01:11:31 Favorite Horse Loss

01:14:46 Getting Horses to Tucker

01:16:56 Closing Reflections

 

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