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A Pleasure to Have in Class (7.25)

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Dig out an old report card. At the top, letter grades: English, history, math. Near the bottom, a stock phrase or two: "Works hard." "A pleasure to have in class." The things most of us would say matter more than diagramming a sentence — showing up, pulling your weight, keeping your word — got the stock phrase, because nobody knows how to test them. Twenty-five hundred years ago, Confucius set out four subjects, and only one of them would get a real grade in a modern school.

In this twenty-fifth episode, host Elliott Bernstein reads passage 7.25 — 子以四教:文,行,忠,信, "The Master's four areas of instruction were: culture, conduct, commitment, and credibility."

Culture and conduct were a curriculum, taught much the way we'd teach literature or team sports today. Commitment and credibility were something else. Confucius had no grades or codes of conduct for them: he lived them in front of his students, watched each one for years, and then gave his verdict.

Two and a half millennia of commentators have argued over those four characters. Did he teach four subjects, or teach *with* them, as his own example? Why does 1.6 put conduct before culture when 7.25 puts culture first? Is it even a list of four, when 忠 and 信 nearly always travel as a pair? The Jin-dynasty critic 王若虛 decided the disciples simply wrote it down wrong. And underneath the whole argument sits an older one, between Mencius and 荀子, about human nature.


Along the way: two and a half millena of commentators arguing over the proper order of those characters; 子路 swaggering in to meet Confucius only to be shown real wisdom; 閔子騫 and the winter coat stuffed with reed catkins; the eloquent student Confucius caught napping at midday; why the pine and cypress only show their worth when the year turns cold; and a translation of 忠 coinciding with the one the host's old college professor chose.

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