553 - Ben Koller: Drumming for Converge, High On Fire, Advocating for Artists Through the "Heavy Music Collective"

Jeff Hamilton attended Indiana University and later studied with John Von Ohlen. Hamilton was influenced by Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich, Mel Lewis, “Philly” Joe Jones, and Shelly Manne. In 1974, he got his first big break playing with the New Tommy Dorsey Orchestra. He then joined Lionel Hampton’s Band until 1975 when he, along with bassist John Clayton, became members of the Monty Alexander Trio. He attained a childhood goal in 1977 when he joined Woody Herman and the Thundering Herd, with whom he made several recordings. In 1978, he was offered a position in the L.A.4. with Ray Brown, Bud Shank, and Laurindo Almeida. He recorded 6 albums with the L.A.4. From 1983-1987, he performed with Ella Fitzgerald, the Count Basie Orchestra, Rosemary Clooney, and Monty Alexander. Hamilton began his association with the Ray Brown Trio in 1988 and left in March of 1995 to concentrate on his own trio. From 1990-1995, he was also a member of the Oscar Peterson Quartet w/Herb Ellis and Ray Brown. Hamilton has toured with his own trio, the Clayton-Hamilton Jazz Orchestra, and Diana Krall. The latest CHJO recording LA Treasures was nominated for a GRAMMY. Hamilton has been on more than 300 recordings with artists such as Ray Brown, Natalie Cole, Diana Krall, Milt Jackson, Rosemary Clooney, Barbra Streisand, Mel Torme, John Pizzarelli, Dr. John, Paul McCartney, and many others. He appeared in Diana Krall’s Live in Paris and Rio DVDs. He is a four time winner of Modern Drummer magazine Readers’ Poll. In this episode, Jeff talks about: How the role of a mentor is to see problems and potential you can’t see in yourself  Why sound is just as important as content  His thoughts on the music business vs. the drumming business The great bassists he has played with, including Ray Brown and John Clayton  His criteria for hiring band members  Playing with Akiko Tsuruga and matching the intensity of the B3 organ, “a one man big band” The importance of letting humor and joy show in his playing  ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Patreon⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Youtube⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Homepage

As SABIAN’s Director of Artist & Public Relations, Chris Stankee leads the charge in shaping and nurturing the company’s artist program on a worldwide scale. His responsibilities span from talent recruitment to artist development and support, all while playing a pivotal role in product development and elevating SABIAN’s presence across social media platforms. In this episode, Chris talks about:     The Sabian Podcast     Chris' formative years from Berklee to life on tour     Interning at Yamaha     Events that lead to his work at Sabian     The unique steps to creating cymbals     Understanding trends in sounds and making it attainable     Working with artists that are hands-on in the R&D department     The stick/cymbal relationship     Sabian lore     Memories of Neil Peart ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Patreon⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Youtube⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Homepage

Nate had been a fixture on the Nashville scene for 14 years and recently landed the proverbial big gig. He found himself in Zach Top’s drum chair when Zach was an opening act in thousand cap rooms, and the whole operation was very DIY. Not long after, Zach’s popularity exploded make him an international arena and stadium headliner seemingly overnight, and he took Nate and the rest of his band with him. In this episode, Nate talks about: Feeling a buzz around Zach Top from the moment he joined the band The show that made them realize they were huge The learning curves that come with the big gig How his approach to songs happened to match perfectly with Zach’s needs as a frontman The evolving pay situation  ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Patreon⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Youtube⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Homepage

Originally from Fort Bragg, California, Zoltan Tobak started playing drums at an early age. After years of performing throughout California as well as attending the Musicians Institute in Los Angeles, he relocated to Nashville in 2014 to pursue music full time. Since 2016, Zoltan has been the live and studio drummer for Muscadine Bloodline, performing extensively and recording five full-length albums. Beyond touring, he stays active in the Nashville community, playing and recording across a range of projects. In this episode, Zoltan talks about:     Managing your social media presence     His unique name     His move from Northern California to Nashville TN     Taking a career growing gig vs taking a gig for money only     Drumming for Muscadine Bloodline     The power of space between notes     Filling in last minute on a major tour     Matt and Zoltan’s shared love of Family Feud ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Patreon⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Youtube⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Homepage

Sean McDaniel is currently the drummer for Chess on Broadway.  He also played Smash, Cabaret, Some Like It Hot, Frozen, The Book Of Mormon, Spamalot, Violet, La Cage Aux Folles, and Nine To Five on Broadway.  Off-Broadway he originated Hamilton. Sean can be seen and heard in Lin-Manuel Miranda’s Tick Tick Boom.  He has played all over the country with American Idol Runner-Up Clay Aiken.  Other performances include Sutton Foster, Barry Manilow, Audra McDonald, Jennifer Hudson, Sting, Dolly Parton, Idina Menzel, Tituss Burgess, Jane Lynch, and the Tony Awards. Sean earned his BM at University of North Texas and his MFA at New York University. He is endorsed by DW, Evans, Vic Firth, and Sabian.  In this episode, Sean talks about: Not just playing to serve the song, but playing to serve the drama The importance of getting some live playing experience you can then bring into a musical theatre show  The huge variety of playing experience he got at North Texas The common thread among great Broadway drummers/drumming Playing for the Tony Awards Finding ways to love the process, not just the product ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Patreon⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Youtube⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Homepage

Ben Koller is an Los Angeles based drummer who worked with bands like Converge, Mutoid Man, Killer Be Killed and All Pigs Must Die just to name a few. He is involved in the Heavy Music Collective a community of musicians and royalties professionals that are committed to getting money back to the bands. In this episode, Ben talks about: Managing the dichotomy between road life and home life The Heavy Music Collective - accessing your royalties!!! His first clinic in Costa Rica The supportive community within the hardcore scene Drumming for the legendary band Converge Drumming for band High On Fire Recording from home Surviving a bad car accident

Nate's formal drum set training began during high school with Grant Menefee in Baltimore, Maryland. He continued his education in Boston, Massachusetts as a performance major at the renowned Berklee College of Music, studying with drummers such as Ed Uribe, Ian Froman, John Ramsay and Ron Savage. Upon graduating in 1994, he taught and played locally in Boston until moving to Los Angeles in 1999 where he has since amassed live performance and recording credits that include Natalie Cole, Michael Bolton, Madonna, Miley Cyrus, Pink, Paulina Rubio and Thalia among others. In 2010, he was the house band drummer on Bonnie Hunt's day time talk show, as well as performing with Cher for her string of appearances at The Colosseum at Caesars Palace. Now, you can catch him grooving during prime time on the NBC hit show, THE VOICE. In this episode, Nate talks about: His thoughts on both sides of the mentorship relationship The rhythm of the rehearsal and production schedule on “The Voice” His perspective on the LA scene The constant search for balance Here's our Patreon Here's our Youtube Here's our Homepage

Matt King is an in demand Nashville session drummer who’s performed on records for a number of country, pop, and rock artists, including several Grammy, CMA, ACM, and Dove Award winners and nominees. Some of these include artists like Brothers Osborne, Maren Morris, Janelle Arthur, Brad Hill, Jamie Floyd and countless others. Matt grew up in Hendersonville North Carolina, and attended the University of South Carolina before he moved to Nashville in the fall of 2002. In this episode, Matt talks about:     His pocket and time feel and it’s possible origins     Creating space between the notes & simplifying your parts     Developing a healthy and musical relationship with the click     The song is king     Recording with Brothers Osborne in the early days     In a sea of talent, knowing you have something to offer     Matt’s drum maintenance service     Tuning techniques for a Nashville session ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Patreon⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Youtube⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Homepage

Dean is the drummer for the Chicago-based bands Worry Club and Capital Soiree. He’s a lifelong resident of the Chicago area, very much a part and a product of the Chicago scene, and has done and continues to do a lot of what it has to offer in addition to his two steady bands. In this episode, Dean talks about: Starting out in the ‘burbs of Chicago and the surrounding area Initially pursuing a history degree with an eye toward being a professor  Working his way onto the Chicago scene as the scene emerged from the pandemic Getting his gig with Worry Club through using a hashtag on IG  How he approaches live versions of songs that are recorded with programmed drums Understanding and appreciating “how a song works What sets Chicago apart  Here's our Patreon Here's our Youtube Here's our Homepage

Rich Malloy is a jazz drummer whose career has been built through consistent work in clubs, listening rooms, studios, and festivals. He has worked across New York, New Jersey, Dallas, Nashville, Fort Worth, and New Mexico, performing straight-ahead, groove-based, and improvised jazz. His work includes performances with Carmen Bradford of the Count Basie Orchestra, Rock & Roll Hall of Fame inductee Brenda Lee, Country Music Hall of Fame member Lorrie Morgan, and Freedy Johnston, named Rolling Stone Songwriter of the Year. He has appeared at the New Mexico Jazz Festival in 2023, 2024, and 2025, and has toured throughout the United States, Ireland, Great Britain, and Italy. His performance history ranges from small listening rooms such as the Bluebird Cafe in Nashville and The Listening Room in New York City to national stages including the Grand Ole Opry, the Ryman Auditorium, and Late Show with David Letterman. Malloy also performs in Counterparts, a fully improvised duo with John Funkhouser, and builds practical music tools including Form & Time, a metronome designed to keep tempo, time signature, and musical form aligned. In this episode, Rich talks about:     Rediscovering his passion for jazz     Taking time away from music     Honoring the players before you but not replicating their style     His duo group - Counterparts     Discovering your own voice through improvised music     The power and responsibility of the drummer in improvised music     The App he developed for practicing - Form and Time ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Patreon⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Youtube⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Here's our Homepage