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Episode 96: Villain off! Frank Churchill v Henry Crawford

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Frank Churchill and Henry Crawford are charming, entertaining, and just questionable enough to get Austen readers arguing! But are they actually villains, or does their charm make us more willing to forgive them? 👀


In this episode, I’m joined by Ellis and Caily for our sixth annual Villainoff, as we put Frank from Emma and Henry from Mansfield Park under the microscope. We discuss their flirtations, secret schemes, and treatment of the women around them, and why both characters inspire such mixed reactions from readers.

We also explore how Austen plays with charm, reputation, and male privilege, and why behaviour that seems amusing in one novel can have much more serious consequences in another. So, are Frank and Henry villains, or are they simply too charming for their own good? 💛


Current Substack project is myself and Caily working through Sense & Sensibility 5 chapters at a time, do join us @Imeakin on Substack. 


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You can also revisit our previous annual Villainoffs! ⚔️

  • Episode 7 (2021): Wickham vs Willoughby
  • Episode 22 (2022): Caroline Bingley vs Isabella Thorpe
  • Episode 50 (2023): Lady Catherine de Bourgh vs Mrs Norris
  • Episode 69 (2024): General Tilney vs Sir Walter Elliot
  • Episode 84 (2025): Elizabeth Elliot vs Fanny Dashwood


Previous episodes with Caily 💛

  • Episode 2: A Defence of Colonel Brandon from Sense and Sensibility
  • Episode 5: Jane Austen’s Most Awkward Characters
  • Episode 9: The Power of the Letter in Jane Austen’s Work
  • Episodes 12 & 13: Sorting Jane Austen’s Heroines into Harry Potter Houses, Parts 1 & 2
  • Episode 55: Jane Austen Unpopular Opinions #3
  • Episode 70: Wrapping Up 2024!
  • Episode 77: The Darcy Effect: Romantic Ideal or Byronic Brooder?
  • Bonus episode: Our Sense & Sensibility Trailer Reaction!


Previous episodes with Ellis, Historian Ellis 📚

  • Episode 1: Jane Austen’s Persuasion and Lasting Love
  • Episode 14: Sense and Sensibility’s Edward Ferrars and What Makes a Hero
  • Episode 43: The Covert Lovers of Highbury: Jane Fairfax and Frank Churchill’s Engagement
  • Episode 63: Bringing Jane Austen’s Bath to Life


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