#1566: Raindance Immersive Curators on the 2025 Selection of Immersive Art on Social VR Platforms

I've spoken to Whitehead scholar Matt Segall a couple of times before, and I was really keen to catch up with him to hear his process-relational and process philosophical takes on AI, intelligence and consciousness. I was responding to a piece he recently wrote titled " The Philosophical Implications of Artificial Intelligence" (full citation below), and it's helped me to ground the conversation about AI that sometimes feels like it easily gets untethered from reality, or just collapses the complexity of humans down into computational machines. There's a lot of more pernicious metaphors that reductive materialists have about humans are, and so this conversation helps to recenter the AI Hyped conversations into a much more process-relational context. Segall, M.D. (2025). The Philosophical Implications of Artificial Intelligence. In: Hoffmann, C.H., Bansal, D. (eds) AI Ethics in Practice. Integrated Science, vol 35. Springer, Cham. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-3-031-87023-1_8

I spoke with the curators of Tribeca Immersive 2025 Jazia Hammoudi and Casey Baltes to unpack the 11 impact project that are being feature in this year's selection. We also talk about Tribeca's new collaboration with Onassis ONX and Agog, how the selection process has changed over the years. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

I spoke with Raindance Immersive curators Mária Rakušanová, Joe Hunting, Fangs about the 2025 selection of projects across 8 different categories. Tune in to get all of the latest tips from this year's selection that is mostly happening on social VR platforms including VRChat, Resonite, and Orion Drift. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

I spoke with producer Victor Agulhon of Targo Stories about their collaboration with TIME Studios to produce D-Day: The Camera Soldier, which he calls the most technologically advance immersive documentary produced up to this point. They took footage from D-Day and spatialized it in a number of different ways, and really pushed the frontiers of innovation for spatial storytelling. It released on the Apple Vision Pro last Tuesday, and it's definitely a project that you should check out if you have access to an AVP. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

The Portland Art Museum Center for an Untold Tomorrow (PAM CUT) has acquired the Tomorrow Theater in South East Portland, and is curating 25 unique events a month and over 250 unique events a year. Most of the experiences are grounded within the cinematic tradition, but there are usually ways that they are adding more levels of participation, community-building, and immersion. Portland Art Museum will be expanding in November to add even more immersive art and immersive storytelling programming as a part of their Plus Plus month-long festival, and the Tomorrow Theater is serving to onboard Portland audiences into the beginning steps of more immersive, experiential, participatory, and social types of entertainment. I had a chance to speak with director Amy Dotson to get a lot more context of how PAM CUT came about, and their vision for where they want to take it in the future. This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

We are in the middle of a hype cycle peak around AI as there are a lot of hyperbolic claims being made about the capabilities and performance of large-language models (LLMs). Computational Linguist Emily M. Bender and Sociologist Alex Hanna have been writing academic papers about the limitations of LLMs, as well as some of the more pernicious aspects of benchmark culture in machine learning, as well as documenting some of the many environmental, labor, and human rights harms from both the creation and deployment of these LLMs. Their book The AI Con: How to Fight Big Tech’s Hype and Create the Future We Want comprehensively deconstructs the many of the false promises of AI, the playbook for AI Hype, and the underlying dynamics of how AI is an automation technology designed to consolidate power. Their book unpacks so many vital parts of the Science and Technology Studies narrative around AI including: How big technology companies have been using AI as a marketing term to describe disparate technologies that have many limitations How we anthropomorphize AI tech from our concepts of intelligence How AI Boosting companies are devaluing what it means to be human in order to promote AI technology How AI Boosters and AI Doomers are two sides of the same coin of assuming that AI is all-powerful and completely inevitable How many of the harms and costs associated with the technology are often out-of-sight and out-of-mind. This book takes a critical look at these so-called AI technologies, deconstructs the language that we use as we talk about these automating technologies, breaks down the hype playbook of Big Tech, restores the relational quality of human intelligence that is often collapsed by AI. It also provides some really helpful questions to ask in order to interrogate the hyperbolic claims that we're hearing from AI boosters. We talk about all of this and more on today's episode, and I have a feeling that this is an episode that I'll be referring back to often. This is also the 100th Voices of VR podcast episode that explores the intersection of AI within the context of XR, and I expect to continue to cover how folks in the XR industry are using AI. Being in right relationship to every aspect of the economic, ethical & moral, social, labor, legal, and property rights dimensions of AI technologies is still an aspirational position. It's not impossible, but it is also not easy. But this conversation helps to frame a lot of the deeper questions that I will continue to have about AI. And Bender and Hanna also provide a lot of clues to the red flags of AI Hype, but also some of the core questions to ask that help to orient around these deeper ethical questions around AI. I've also been editing unpublished and vaulted episodes of the Voices of AI that I did with AI researchers at the International Joint Conference of Artificial Intelligence that I did back in 2016 and 2018 (as well as a couple of other conferences), and I'm hoping to relaunch the Voices of AI later this summer to look back at what researchers were saying about AI 7-9 years ago to give some important historical context that's often collapsed within the current days of AI Hype (SPOILER ALERT: this is not the first nor the last hype cycle that AI will have). I'll also be engaging within a Socratic Style Debate where I'll be mostly arguing critically against AI on the last day of AWE (Thursday, June 12th, 2:45p) after the Expo has closed down, and before the final session. So come check out a live debate with a couple of AI Boosters and an AI Doomer. Also look for an interview that I just recorded with Process Philosopher Matt Segall diving more into a Process-Relational Philosophy perspective on AI, intelligence, and consciousness coming here soon. Segall and I are going to explore an elemental approach to intelligence, which is based upon concepts that I explore in my elemental theory of presence talk. Intelligence, privacy,

The Creature label features a lot of really innovative VR and MR games with rich and innovative gameplay mechanics, and they just featured three new games, a new DLC pack, and lots of updates about the games in a half-hour Creature Feature gaming showcase hosted on IGN. I had a chance to catch up with Creature CEO and Creative Director Doug North Cook to unpack all of the different announcements as well as do a bit of vibe check on the state of the VR industry (and responds a bit to Chris Pruett's GDC talk on Meta and the shifting gaming ecosystem). Announcement of Adepts Arena game Laser Dance update of entering into Early Access in Fall Thrasher is coming to Steam Deck New The Light Brigade mixed reality trailer Neat Corp recap with Budget Cuts Ultimate Neat Corp recap Garden of the Sea on Switch and Steam Deck Announcement of Crossings with a Steam Next Fest demo on June 9th Wordbound Teaser Prison Boss Prohibition launches on July 10, 2025 Compass shout out at the end of the Creature Feature of Trebuchet Announcement of Maestro DLC of Duel of the Fates from Star Wars Episode #1 New Starship Home accolades trailer Equip soundtrack for Starship Home coming to 100% Electronica label Creature Feature Bundle launches today with a 30% discount featuring Maestro, The Light Brigade, Fujii, Budget Cuts Ultimate, Garden of the Sea and Prison Boss VR Horseshoes Hotdogs and Hand Grenades developer Anton Hand says, "It's tough finishing stuff." No additional context, but could the full release of H3VR 1.0 be coming soon? And/or a future Creature collaboration? Sidequest Indie Spotlight Summer 2025 launches on YouTube We Are One shout out. Announcement of Deadly Delivery entering a closed beta period Here is the Creature Feature 2025 Summer Showcase that premiered on the IGN YouTube channel today at 9a: https://www.youtube.com/live/OEnj5u_Wht0?t=1765s This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

NOTE: This sponsored episode was produced by Kent Bye in partnership with PHI and participation from Agog: Immersive Media Institute and immersive artist Peter Burr. PHI and Agog: Immersive Media Institute are collaborating on the PHI Immersive: XR for Impact residency program that will be running for four weeks from March 2 to 27, 2026 in Montreal, Canada. It was first announced on March 6th, and it's open to "artists, groups, or collectives residing in North America (including Canada, the United States, Mexico, Greenland, Saint-Pierre and Miquelon, and Bermuda)." The submission deadline is June 24th, 2025 (11:59 EDT), and there are a couple of information sessions coming up next week on Tuesday, May 13th (French) and Thursday, May 15th (English), and you can find the Zoom links on the application page (or video recordings if it's after May 15th). I think this is a very unique opportunity that will be of interest to the Voices of VR podcast audience since the selected artist(s) will be invited to spend a month collaborating with PHI Studio over four weeks towards developing an initial prototype. Here's how they describe it: Focusing specifically on the development phase of a project over the course of four weeks, the selected artist(s), group, or collective will collaborate with PHI Studio experts to conceptualize, plan, and prototype an immersive artwork. The program provides the selected project with personalized support, workspace, the possibility to connect with a community partner and targeted resources to refine the concept, create prototypes, and prepare for potential production. I had a chance to catch up with Myriam Archard, Chief New Media Partnership and PR at PHI, Amy Seidenwurm, Chief of Programs and Strategy at Agog, as well as Peter Burr, who was the immersive artist selected for the 2025 edition of the PHI Immersive residency. We talk about the collaboration between PHI and Agog, which is bringing a specific impact focus on "transforming narratives through activism, contemporary challenges, and social good." We elaborate a bit more about what it means to use XR technologies and immersive storytelling to empower changemakers. We also talk about best practices and things to avoid in a pitch (be sure to read closely what the submission guidelines are), and a lot of general advice for aspiring immersive artists navigating how to inspire change and provide opportunities to make a positive difference on the many different challenges facing us today. We also cover a lot of other logistics of the PHI Immersive: XR for Impact residency, including Burr's personal reflections on what the experience was like. Agog also is interested in supporting other immersive residencies, and perhaps starting some of their own residency programs, and so this collaboration with PHI may be an indication for the types of future work that they are looking to support. Again, the deadline is June 24th, 2025 (11:59p EDT), and be sure to check out the information session on May 13th at 11am EDT for French speakers, and May 15th at 11am EDT for English speakers. You can tune in to the podcast or check out the transcript down below for more details.

Walkabout Mini Golf is really an incredible accomplishment of VR design with its fusion of worldbuilding, compelling physics-based gameplay, the unique social dynamics and community it's able to cultivate, and over 4 1/2 years of consistent DLC courses every 8 weeks or so. They have launched 33 total courses, and just recently announced that they're bumping the price by $10 and adding 6 DLC courses into the base game so that is now 14 courses for $24.99. It's still an incredible deal, especially considering that there are still 19 DLC courses available, which has helped earn the #20 spot on Meta's best-selling Quest apps of all time. During my trip to SXSW, I had a chance to speak with the original solo developer of Walkabout Mini Golf, Lucas Martell, who has since grown the Mighty Coconut Studio team to 35 people. We talk about how their design process for courses starts with worldbuilding, but also how his script-writing background has helped to inform how they tell the story of each of these worlds through the evolution of game mechanics and shape language that each course is exploring. After I had a chance to interview Martell, I was given access to all 33 of the courses, which I have played through over the past week in order to provide a bit more context on what they've been able to accomplish with Walkabout Mini Golf. It's certainly an achievement within VR design that combines the best part of immersive worldbuilding, convincing gameplay, and compelling social dynamics that keeps players coming back again and again.Be sure to check out the table below which lists the timeline of the release of the 33 different courses that are now available. OrderCourse NameRelease DateCategory1.1Tourist TrapSep 24, 2020Classic1.1Cherry BlossomSep 24, 2020Classic1.1Seagull stacksSep 24, 2020Classic1.1Arizona ModernSep 24, 2020Classic5Original GothicNov 8, 2020Classic6Tethys StationMar 3, 2021Classic7Bogey's BonanzaJun 10, 2021Classic8Quixote ValleyOct 7, 2021Classic9Gardens of BabylonNov 18, 2021Lost Cities10Shangri-La (Added to Base Game)Dec 16, 2021Lost Cities11Sweetopia (Added to Base Game)Feb 17, 2022DLC12El DoradoJun 2, 2022Lost Cities13LabyrinthJul 28, 2022Licensed IP1420,000 Leagues Under the Sea (Added to Base Game)Sep 29, 2022Jules Verne15MystNov 15, 2022Licensed IP16AtlantisJan 26, 2023Lost Cities17Upside Town (Added to Base Game)Mar 9, 2023DLC18Temple at ZerzuraApr 20, 2023Lost Cities19Journey to the Center of the EarthJun 8, 2023Jules Verne20Laser Lair (Added to Base Game)Jul 20, 2023Evil Lair21Alfheim (Added to Base Game)Sep 7, 2023DLC22Widow’s WalkaboutOct 19, 2023DLC23Meow WolfDec 7, 2023Licensed IP24Around the World in 80 DaysJan 18, 2024Jules Verne25Ice LairMar 7, 2024Evil Lair26VeniceApril 25, 2024DLC27Wallace & GromitJul 25, 2024Licensed IP28Mars GardensSep 10, 2024Original IP298-Bit LairOct 24, 2024Evil Lair30Holiday HideawayDec 5, 2024DLC31Viva Las ElvisJan 16, 2025Licensed IP32Mount OlympusMar 6, 2025DLC33Raptor CliffsMay 1, 2025DLC This is a listener-supported podcast through the Voices of VR Patreon. Music: Fatality

asses.masses is a unique, 7-hour, live performance that uses video game logic to expand the narrative possibilities and social dramaturgy of experimental theater. With a single video game controller at the front of a movie theater with lights up so everyone can see each other, the audience must negotiate amongst themselves who will step up to play the next section of a narrative game that spans a wide range of different genres from 8-bit pixel art RPG representing the hyperreal to high-res, 3D open world walking simulators representing a fantasy idealized realm. The audience also has to negotiate how to make hundreds of collective decisions that come up in the game from dialogue tree options to which direction to to go to deciding which set of metaphoric political platform issues that should be prioritized for the ensemble cast of socialist Marxist donkeys. They lean upon the binge-watching culture to split the 7 to 8-hour run time into 10 total episodes split into 2-episode chunks that are broken up by 4 different intermissions where snacks and dinner are provided. Here's a description of the story that's told in this long-form format: The unemployed donkeys have one demand: the humans must surrender their machines and give all donkeys their jobs back. But revolution is never easy! asses.masses is a custom-made video game about labour, technophobia, and sharing the load of revolution, designed to be played from beginning to end in a live theatre. This is gaming as performance, an immersive, cheeky, and highly original work. Brave spectators take turns at the controller to lead the herd through a post-Industrial society, where asses are valued more for their hides than their potential. Confronting automation-driven job loss, nostalgia as a barrier to progress, and the role of technology in adaptation, we are encouraged to find space between the work that defines us and the play that frees us. asses.masses is Animal Farm meets Pokémon meets Final Fantasy, as exciting in form as it is in content. No previous gaming (or donkey) experience required. asses.masses is one of the more unique immersive experiences that I've had a chance to have, especially when it comes to mashing up social behaviors that stem from video game culture, but set within a live theatrical context. I saw asses.masses at PAM CUT (Portland Art Museum's Center for an Untold Tomorrow) here in Portland, OR on March 29th, and I had a chance to remotely catch up with the co-creators Patrick Blenkarn and Milton Lim to unpack their journey of blending video games into how stories are told in a live theatrical performance. We also explore how they're exploring new modes of social dramaturgy that leverage insights from couch co-op, live Twitch streams, and video game logic where part of the performance is automated through the video game itself, but it's augmented by the emergent social dynamics of the audience that end up reflecting main narrative themes of managing flows of power, community-building, collective decision-making, and in the case of our screening some actual revolt against an theater nerd/gamer audience member turned heel. Overall, the experience allowed the audience to exercise some muscles of social imagination beyond the Capitalist Realism baseline as elaborated by Mark Fisher's work, and there was a turn-taking between the more cathartic mode of Aristotelian drama and breaking the fourth wall of Brecht's distancing effect / alienation effect. The narrative was initially developed to serve a wide range of game-play mechanics in a live theater context, but the spaciousness of the extended run-time allowed them to explore many deeper philosophical, political, and economic topics that most stories do not have the time to get into. The ensemble cast of archetypal characters each have their own arc, and I found that the ending and epilogue really landed and stuck with me. If you have an opportunity to catch an upcoming scre...