EP 726: Ultrarunning’s Past Was Wilder Than You Think

In this episode, ultra-endurance athlete Lucja Leonard recounts her transformative experience running the Arizona Monster 300, a race that pushed her beyond her limits. She talks about her essential strategies for success in ultra-running, including the importance of sleep, hydration, nutrition, and terrain research. Lucja highlights how positive self-talk, mental resilience, and a supportive community played key roles in overcoming physical and emotional challenges. Her journey from a non-athlete to a seasoned ultra-runner offers inspiration and practical insights for anyone facing extreme endurance events. The episode also explores recovery as a vital skill, the inevitability of problem-solving, and how embracing discomfort fuels personal growth. Lucja’s story is a testament to the mindset and preparation required for ultra-endurance success. Links to learn more about Lucja: Running Dutchie - coaching, speaking, etc Finding Gobi EP 706: Running Through Adversity to Find Joy - Episode with Lucja's husband, Dion and their dog, Gobi. Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Peluva, 15% off with code TRAILRUNNER Liquid IV, get 20% off your first order with code TRAILRUNNER Wonderful Pistachios Oikos Triple Zero FREE! Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

In this episode of Trail Runner Nation, we explore the gritty world of endurance sports with ultrarunner and guest Shannon Hogan, author of The Unforgiving Hours: the Grit, Resilience, and Perseverance at the Heart of Endurance Sports. The conversation weaves through incredible feats like the Boston Double—an underground marathon challenge—and the icy realm of cold water swimming, examining the physical and mental resilience these sports demand. Shannon shares powerful stories from her book, reminding us that endurance is less about podiums and more about perseverance, preparation, and inner drive. They highlight the deeply personal nature of endurance, the role of community support, and the importance of capturing these stories to honor the athletes who quietly push human limits. From ice swims to last-second finishes, this episode celebrates the toughness and inspiration found in every athlete’s journey. Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Ketone IQ, Get 30% off your first subscription order Tifosi Optics 20% off with code TRN UCAN, click on the link to claim the exclusive offer and save 20% on your entire order with code TRN Oikos Triple Zero FREE! Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

To really understand who we are as a running community—What drives us, what connects us, and why we keep pushing our limits, we have to look back. Long before ultras, Strava segments, or finish-line belt buckles, there was pedestrianism—a 19th-century spectacle where athletes raced for six days straight inside smoky arenas, cheered on by thousands. Our resident ultrarunning historian, Davy Crockett, is back to introduce us to one of the most unforgettable figures from that era.  Peter Napoleon Campana—better known as Old Sport.  Davy just published another book, Old Sport Campana: Ultrarunning;s Most Popular and Amusing 19th Century Runner in his historical series that brings  Campana’s story to life and helps us explore what it reveals about the roots of our sport—and why looking back just might help us better understand who we are today. Links to check out: Grand Canyon History Ultrarunning History Podcast American Ultrarunning Hall of Fame Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Peluva, 15% off with code TRAILRUNNER Shokz, Use code TRN10 for 10% off Wonderful Pistachios Oikos Triple Zero FREE! Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

We all know that nutrition is essential for peak performance—but for young athletes, it’s so much more than just fuel. In this episode, we’re joined by expert coach and author Michele Pettinger to explore how nutrition supports adolescent athletes as they navigate growing bodies, shifting hormones, academic pressures, and evolving relationships. Michele shares insights from her book on how parents, coaches, and mentors can guide youth through healthy meal planning, hydration, and recovery. We also discuss the impact of energy drinks, body image concerns, and the early signs of nutritional issues. With practical tips and a focus on lifelong habits, this conversation is a valuable guide for anyone helping young athletes thrive—on and off the field. Michele's new book, The Young Runner’s Guide to Nutrition: How to Fuel Your Body to Train Smarter, Run Faster, and Recover Quicker. Check out Michele's website: P3 Running Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Ketone IQ, Get 30% off your first subscription order Tifosi Optics 20% off with code TRN AmShokz, Use code TRN10 for 10% off Oikos Triple Zero FREE! Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app  

Are you fueling your endurance training the right way—or are outdated carb myths holding you back? In this episode, we’re joined by sports dietitian Bob Seebohar to explore the evolving science behind carbohydrate consumption in endurance sports. We discuss how nutrition periodization, metabolic flexibility, and gut training can transform both performance and recovery. Bob challenges the one-size-fits-all approach to sports nutrition, emphasizing the need for personalized plans that align with each athlete’s physiology and goals. From managing GI distress to optimizing glycogen storage and understanding blood sugar dynamics, this conversation dives deep into how and when to use carbs for peak athletic output.  Here is the LINK to the new research we mentioned. Check out these links too: All Around Snack Co. 3rd Edition of Bob's book on Amazon Metabolic Efficiency Training: Teaching the Body to Burn More Fat on Bob's site Metabolic Efficiency Training: Teaching the Body to Burn More Fat Bob's Web site: Enrg Performance Inside Sports Nutrition Podcast Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Peluva, 15% off with code TRAILRUNNER Liquid IV, get 20% off your first order with code TRAILRUNNER Wonderful Pistachios Oikos Triple Zero FREE! Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

What if we told you that putting yourself in controlled, uncomfortable situations—like ice baths, fasting, or extreme endurance events—could make you a better runner and a better human? In this episode of Trail Runner Nation, Don and Scott explore the science and strategy of discomfort, challenging the idea that comfort is always the goal. They discuss how modern “comfort culture” may actually be dulling our resilience, while ancient traditions, military training, and endurance sports all use discomfort as a tool for mental and physical growth. Ice baths become a central metaphor for controlled suffering—revealing how pain and discomfort, when approached intentionally, can lead to enhanced focus, discipline, and personal transformation. We break down the difference between pain and discomfort, sharing stories and science that show how embracing the latter can sharpen performance and mindset. We also reflect on how community support can strengthen our ability to endure, and how this mental training often matters just as much as the physical. If you’re ready to rethink the role of suffering in your training—and your life—this conversation will help you turn discomfort into your greatest asset. Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Ketone IQ, Get 30% off your first subscription order Tifosi Optics 20% off with code TRN Amazfit - T-Rex 3: Get 15% off Oikos Triple Zero FREE! Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

What drives us to venture into the unknown—even when there’s no finish line or prize at the end? In this episode of Trail Runner Nation, we sit down with author and science journalist Alex Hutchinson to explore the ideas behind his new book, The Explorer’s Gene: Why we Seek Big Challenges, New Flavors, and the Blank Spots on the Map. From ancient Polynesian voyages to backyard adventures with his kids, Alex uncovers how the drive to explore is deeply rooted in both our biology and our upbringing. We discuss how exploration shapes personal growth, why uncertainty triggers our motivation, and how everyday choices can satisfy our innate desire for discovery.  Make sure you have his award-winning book, Endure: Mind, Body, and the Curiously Elastic Limits of Human Performance, which explores the boundaries of human potential on your reading list. Visit the Sweat Science website to learn more about Alex and everything he has going on. Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Peluva, 15% off with code TRAILRUNNER Shokz, Use code TRN10 for 10% off Wonderful Pistachios FREE! Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app  

This is Part 2 of a two-part series on running 200-mile races that we started last episode. We are joined again by coaches Ian Sharman and 200-mile specialist Annie Hughes to explore the rising popularity of 200-mile races. From gear selection and aid station efficiency to hydration, nutrition, and personal hygiene, they share practical tips for thriving in long-distance events. The conversation explores mental strategies for navigating low points, maintaining motivation, and the importance of breaking down goals and rewarding progress. Ian and Annie also discuss the unique challenges of 100- vs. 200-mile races, including race management, navigation, and training health. The episode wraps up with a look into Sharman Ultra coaching and Annie’s inspiring return to racing after injury. Find out more about Annie and Ian at Sharman Ultra Coaching Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Ketone IQ, Get 30% off your first subscription order Tifosi Optics 20% off with code TRN Shokz, Use code TRN10 for 10% off FREE! Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

In this episode of Trail Runner Nation, we are joined by coaches Ian Sharman and 200-mile specialist Annie Hughes to explore the rising popularity of 200-mile races. Annie shares her rapid progression from short distances to ultra races, while Ian provides expert insights on coaching, training strategies, and the mental and physical demands of extreme endurance events. The discussion covers key aspects of ultra preparation, including nutrition with real food, sleep strategies, foot care, hydration, gear selection, and mental resilience. Our coaches emphasize the importance of gradual experience, individualized training, and strategic experimentation to optimize race performance.  Find out more about Annie and Ian at Sharman Ultra Coaching Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Peluva, 15% off with code TRAILRUNNER Liquid IV, get 20% off your first order with code TRAILRUNNER UCAN, click on the link to claim the exclusive offer and save 20% on your entire order with code TRN FREE! Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app

"The goal is just supposed to stretch you further." In this episode, author and coach Matt Fitzgerald, discusses his new book launching on March 25 'Chasing Mastery: 25 Lessons to Cultivate Your Full Potential in Endurance Sports' which explores the journey of cultivating full potential in endurance sports. Matt discusses the definitions of success, the importance of motivation, and the common goals athletes pursue. He shares insights on how to achieve mastery through a developmental process and the role of coaching in nurturing athlete motivation.  He emphasizes the need for self-regulation and mastery in training, as well as the significance of social connections in enhancing motivation and performance. The dialogue also touches on the concept of 'hard fun' in training, the value of reflective practices, and the unique opportunities provided by his Dream Run Camp. Episode Sponsors: Janji, Use code TRAILRUNNER for 10% off Ketone IQ, Get 30% off your first subscription order Tifosi Optics 20% off with code TRN Wonderful Pistachios FREE! Trail Runner Nation's Trail Triage app