THORChain Resumes Trading, AI & Energy Consumption, Protocol Owned Liquidity | Podcast #211

In this episode, we provide updates on biz dev, revenue sharing, free stable swaps, and Monero, as well as a strategy to onboard TradFi.Swap now https://swap.thorchain.org/ THORChain is a decentralized crypto exchange. THORChain is the first and biggest DEX for Bitcoin. You can use any self custody wallet to swap and there’s no KYC required.Timestamps:00:00:00 Intro00:03:00 Randy's update00:04:00 Randy wants to know who we should integrate! Let him know!00:05:00 New ERC-20 pools are coming!00:08:00 Chad starts. Dynamic fee model is live for Symbiosis00:09:00 Symbiosis UI bug!00:10:00 Monitoring the code to make sure the behavior and results are what we intended00:13:00 New BPS idea for price execution00:15:00 Chad will methodically go through every integration to identify optimizations00:18:00 We are ready to look for another interface to test it on00:19:00 XMR update: We broke some things when patching Serai code00:20:00 Churning has been struggling, so we haven't added Zcash00:22:00 We could generate a Zcash address with the pubkey!00:24:00 Would being in the middle of a churn affect our ability to add a chain?00:25:00 Update on opt-in chain clients00:26:00 3.19.4 timeframe so XMR can get added?00:28:00 Audience question: AI/THORKit package to run a node00:32:00 AI alerting tools00:36:00 Randy: Super excited for AI agents interacting with THORChain00:38:00 CEXs are done when it comes to AI agents and can't compete!00:40:00 Chad B is interested in helping projects add AI agent utility00:42:00 Randy: EU euro (stable-to-stable) swap volume potential00:44:00 THORChain's permissionless ethos will win00:46:00 Revenue share discussion — where do we stand?00:48:00 We will make integrators more competitive with revenue sharing!00:53:00 Bittensor subnet AI model capability?00:59:00 Chad's list of upcoming features01:02:00 POL Economic Mimir needs to be changed to Operational01:05:00 Randy: How do I get TradFi to use THORChain?01:07:00 Randy: We must maintain the moat of our ethos01:09:00 Chad B: We are the DeFi OGs. Erik Voorhees' ethos with Venice is just like THORChain01:13:00 We will never surrender the moat of our ethos01:15:00 Stocks on THORChain?01:18:00 XMR update01:22:00 XMR will be the most consequential chain client

Since we had a technical problem with Amir, Boone joined the podcast and discussed ADR 29.Swap now https://swap.thorchain.org/ THORChain is a decentralized crypto exchange. THORChain is the first and biggest DEX for Bitcoin. You can use any self custody wallet to swap and there’s no KYC required.

In this episode, we provide a marketing update, discuss AI & energy consumption, and finish with a discussion on protocol-owned liquidity.Swap now https://swap.thorchain.org/ THORChain is a decentralized crypto exchange. THORChain is the first and biggest DEX for Bitcoin. You can use any self custody wallet to swap and there’s no KYC required.Timestamps:00:00:00 Intro00:05:00 Marketing update00:07:00 Reach out to communities about adding ERC-20s? Easy to do!00:08:00 Working on Keplr Wallet00:09:00 Platform to hire KOLs00:11:00 KOL platform breakdown00:13:00 Chad B: May be a bot dream00:15:00 KOL drama00:19:00 Forewarning for drama00:20:00 Chad's talk about Monerotopia00:23:00 Someone who is into XMR will probably understand the mission00:27:00 Chad B: The attack we suffered is very hard to recover from — but we have!00:29:00 New version is coming! Fix for Solana so we can churn and XMR00:32:00 Kenton: The cynical view doesn't make sense00:33:00 Failure should be expected00:34:00 TSS will be open-sourced, probably mid-July00:36:00 Huginn's code auditing is surprisingly good00:37:00 Moving to DKLS is a priority00:39:00 The idea is to move to FROST and DKLS00:41:00 How we would transition cryptographies00:43:00 We need to find a new version of FROST if we want to add it to THORChain00:44:00 Multisig on each vault — combining cryptographies. Still entertaining that idea?00:47:00 DKLS would be first if any changes were going to be made00:48:00 Question: Can we add AI payment rails and support for precious metal derivatives?00:51:00 agentsfirst.dev analytics breakdown00:57:00 Delegation is so hard for startups00:59:00 These days are still early for AI01:01:00 Will AI be a bunch of specialist models or a more general model?01:04:00 Energy consumption versus efficiency of AI01:06:00 Chad B is bullish when it comes to increased electricity usage01:09:00 Energy scale is beyond comprehension01:13:00 Life arose so quickly when Earth was formed01:17:00 Planet talk — geeking out01:21:00 Bringing it back to THORChain, THORChain is a good foundation for a better system01:23:00 When XMR goes live, Kenton will wait about a month before really pushing it out01:26:00 What happens post-churn when it comes to POL?01:30:00 Kenton acknowledges Boone for getting the math incorrect01:33:00 Boone joins and says it is Economic Mimir01:34:00 Increasing BPs fee is probably the move (Boone)01:36:00 Kenton gives the case for POL advantages01:37:00 Kenton floats 25% to POL01:39:00 POL is a burn, technically01:42:00 Burn conversation regarding sell pressure01:46:00 POL conversation continues01:49:00 POL is an asset, not a liability01:52:00 New hat!!01:53:00 POL pitch01:56:00 POL also buys and burns their asset too01:58:00 Per-asset minBPS idea (Boone)02:02:00 Anything else? Direct ERC-20 memoless, TAO 3.2002:03:00 Reserve hard cap discussion02:06:00 Reserve income and dispersed

xolosArmy is a decentralized community and project built around eCash (XEC) cryptocurrency. Swap now https://swap.thorchain.org/ THORChain is a decentralized crypto exchange. THORChain is the first and biggest DEX for Bitcoin. You can use any self custody wallet to swap and there’s no KYC required.Timestamps:00:00:00 Intro00:05:00 Diving talk00:07:00 Getting on THORChain — what it takes00:12:00 When you are on THORChain, you have access to the most wallets — hundreds of millions!00:14:00 Only have a token on THORChain?00:16:00 What would happen if THORChain was the central point of liquidity?00:21:00 Fernando starts00:22:00 Fiat is an instrument of control — BTC solved this00:24:00 Use THORChain for sovereign liquidity and add connections to the rest of the world00:25:00 Fork of Bitcoin Cash00:26:00 We have instant finality — sub-second00:27:00 Our tech is deterministic from beginning to end00:29:00 XolosArmy is a project working on eCash — they want to bring the ethos of BCH to eCash00:31:00 THORChain is much better than CEXs00:32:00 eCash is a fork of BCH00:34:00 eCash is not a stablecoin00:37:00 eCash screen share00:40:00 Throughput of eCash?00:43:00 Subnets discussion00:44:00 Is eCash similar to TAO when it comes to subnets?00:46:00 eCash subnets explained00:48:00 What is the cost of an eCash daemon?00:51:00 What is the vision for eCash getting on THORChain?00:54:00 We have NFTs and utilize IPFS00:56:00 XEC can be connected to fiat00:59:00 We have a $100 million market cap01:00:00 StarSquid says the chain client is ready01:01:00 Kenton explains adding liquidity to THORChain01:04:00 More liquidity seeding discussion01:08:00 $50k is a good target01:09:00 Is it on chainnet?

In this episode, we provide a marketing update, followed by a brief update on the exploit. We then dive deeper into a couple of bigger topics, such as dynamic and referral fees, protocol owned liquidity.Swap now https://swap.thorchain.org/ THORChain is a decentralized crypto exchange. THORChain is the first and biggest DEX for Bitcoin. You can use any self custody wallet to swap and there’s no KYC required.Timestamps:00:00:00 Intro00:02:00 Marketing update00:04:00 "KOL" talk and bang for buck00:06:00 Getting new chains added is super important for getting brand-new users00:09:00 New Affiliate page on swap.thorchain.org00:11:00 Kenton is thinking the affiliate API should be permissioned00:12:00 Chad B starts, 3.19.1 fully adopted00:14:00 1 day, enable signing and churn00:16:00 KeyVerify talk — when should we move on if it doesn't work?00:17:00 KeyVerify will be disabled after this moment00:18:00 Kenton asks about the exact order of turning things back on00:20:00 THORChain is decentralized — it's obvious00:21:00 Nodes had to do a lot of steps with developers00:23:00 AI made this so much faster for us00:24:00 Over time, we will have a more professional node operator base00:26:00 Devs have been working nonstop on separate issues00:27:00 Post-mortem is coming, hopefully within 2–3 weeks00:29:00 We do a very good job being public, but that is often used against us00:30:00 When we get going again, we will be testing the dynamic fee model with select partners00:31:00 Applies to all THORNames00:34:00 Chad says he is not sure who is correct on dynamic fees00:37:00 Start simple and tweak it as we get more info00:39:00 Kenton: It should be obvious00:40:00 SwapKit rev-share program discussion00:45:00 Stable-to-stable swaps should be neutral but result in more volume00:46:00 Kenton: Stablecoin idea should be great00:48:00 Denny: Stable-to-stable will be amazing for point-of-sale applications00:50:00 Kenton: Dynamic fees may be really helpful for direct integrations00:51:00 These features are bound to "click" with partners00:54:00 Lots of exciting things are coming!00:55:00 XMR testing update: Going well!00:56:00 Huginn update: Pointed it at Serai00:57:00 Monero may be coming within 1–2 months00:59:00 XMR actually works!!01:01:00 RUNE question from the audience about governance01:03:00 Kenton breaks down liquidity pools01:05:00 It is not hopium — THORChain has fundamentals01:07:00 This protocol is actually real and useful01:11:00 TON Wallet question from the audience01:12:00 We are reaching out to everyone!01:13:00 POL transition: Protocol-Owned Liquidity01:14:00 Kenton thinks 25% POL is what is needed01:18:00 Chad B: Where do you stand on POL?01:20:00 Bull market POL could get very crazy01:23:00 Dev fund could make much more money and the treasury could go away01:25:00 We are moving away from a hard cap01:27:00 Denny gives his thoughts on LPs01:30:00 LPs withdraw when things turn around?01:35:00 We didn't have data about AMMs when we first started01:41:00 The scalability of THORChain in terms of liquidity and developers01:45:00 Possible incentive pendulum tweaks01:48:00 Price/volume graph comparison01:53:00 Stock trading on-chain — KYC?01:55:00 Perhaps companies will push for permissionless01:58:00 Stocks02:02:00 How have Maya devs been doing?02:06:00 Outro02:09:00 Attempt to attack Chad Barraford

Milan from NanoGPT joins Kenton and Denny to discuss his journey from central banking to building a privacy-focused AI platform powered by crypto. They explore NanoGPT's integration with THORChain, the future of AI payments, and why privacy matters in both finance and artificial intelligence. Swap now https://swap.thorchain.org/ THORChain is a decentralized crypto exchange. THORChain is the first and biggest DEX for Bitcoin. You can use any self custody wallet to swap and there’s no KYC required.Timestamps:00:00:00 Intro00:03:00 Kenton update, Churn, 3.19.100:04:00 Marketing update, signed an agreement with Sal the Agorist and Mark Edge ASK00:06:00 Every single person watching that show should be using THORChain00:07:00 Milan starts, NanoGPT00:09:00 Milan worked for the central bank00:11:00 The central bank was anti-crypto00:12:00 The central bank wanted a button to stop transactions and KYC and the money issuing to be in their hands00:13:00 Why did you decide to work at a central bank00:16:00 Kenton had a friend that worked with the Bank of Canada00:17:00 Milan did not have a good breakup00:19:00 Milan thought subscriptions for AI models was a terrible idea00:20:00 An early user was Erik Voorhees00:21:00 NanoGPT has grown to include all AI models00:22:00 Claude pulled Fable access for everyone00:23:00 NanoGPT is an AI aggregator, 80 providers00:26:00 NanoGPT is the same price or cheaper00:27:00 Kenya man used Nano for medical questions00:28:00 Neobanks are getting shut down, do you run that risk?00:29:00 Big providers make a loss with subscriptions — many people share a subscription00:31:00 They know what we are doing00:32:00 How do customers choose what AI model to use? Automatic or custom?00:34:00 AutoModel checks what kind of question it is and decides the prompt difficulty00:38:00 Website feature00:42:00 CEX story of getting paused00:43:00 Iranian linkage because of $3200:44:00 THORChain and NanoGPT are a great partnership00:47:00 How did the Kenya man figure out you existed?00:48:00 NanoGPT and Venice are competitors?

In this episode, we provide a marketing update, followed by a brief update on the exploit. We then dive deeper into a couple of bigger topics, such as sectioning and censoring, followed by discussions on the Nakamoto Coefficient and decentralisation.Swap now https://swap.thorchain.org/THORChain is a decentralized crypto exchange. THORChain is the first and biggest DEX for Bitcoin. You can use any self custody wallet to swap and there’s no KYC required.Timestamps:00:03:00 Kenton Marketing and Swap Interface Update00:07:00 Chad gives a recovery update00:08:00 KeyVerify has not been functional yet00:10:00 GAIA IBC infinite mint bug was patched00:11:00 KeyVerify is not necessary, but it's nice to be 100% safe00:13:00 Is it a single node holding things up?00:15:00 Ban Mimir discussion00:18:00 Churn-out talk for nodes that are asleep at the wheel00:19:00 How did the ban function work?00:20:00 What if node or nodes could kick out other nodes?00:21:00 The network will only allow 1/3rd to leave at a time00:23:00 Badger protocol was attacked with a script on the website in the past00:24:00 To Chad's knowledge, no one is being slashed00:25:00 3.19.1 is coming today or tomorrow00:27:00 Tuesday or Wednesday should be trading hopefully00:31:00 Claude question from audience: Claude says it sees high risk of sanctions00:32:00 AI psychosis00:34:00 Fear-based content gets traction00:37:00 THORChain cannot be used for money laundering00:39:00 Who will sanction THORChain?00:40:00 Crypto are individual nations with their own governance00:45:00 THORChain could sanction others00:47:00 The current economic system is definitely built to launder money00:48:00 Sanctions are a sign the system is dying00:51:00 Question: What if USDT froze the pools?00:52:00 Smart contracts have been frozen00:55:00 Game theory: If USDT goes crazy with freezing, they could get a bank run01:00:00 Kenton: Positive articles will be coming once things calm down01:00:00 Use tables and lists for better AI SEO—AI loves tables and lists!01:01:00 It's expensive to sponsor content and it doesn't count towards SEO01:03:00 Question: Can't we just ignore the unresponsive nodes?01:04:00 Chad: When doing KeyVerify, we need 100% participation01:05:00 Two forms of cryptography to secure the network? GG20 and DKLS?01:09:00 Engineer in the office vs engineer in the field01:10:00 The simpler a design, the less likely it can be attacked successfully01:13:00 What other things are happening despite the current situation?01:14:00 Zcash may be coming soon! And XMR!!01:15:00 TAO is probably next. Need 3.20 first01:16:00 THORChain is going to give people whiplash by coming back so well!01:18:00 Still talking to Layer 1s and they still want to get listed!01:20:00 POL: Let's make 25%01:27:00 Question: What about burning? Are we getting rid of it?01:31:00 RUNE is a better Bitcoin than Bitcoin01:33:00 The winners will be determined when the crypto market gets proper saturation01:34:00 Value is very subjective01:35:00 Boone tries to correct Kenton's math, Kenton disagrees. NERD FIGHT!!!01:40:00 Chad shares screen about most decentralized blockchain by Nakamoto Coefficient01:46:00 Chad calculates THORChain's Nakamoto Coefficient01:51:00 Deep dive into that calculation01:58:00 Isn't THORChain the most complicated chain?02:02:00 Mythos is out in the open with Fable 5?02:04:00 Huginn is getting a more diverse skill set02:06:00 Possible Serai fixes via AI

Swap now https://swap.thorchain.org/ THORChain is a decentralized crypto exchange. THORChain is the first and biggest DEX for Bitcoin. You can use any self custody wallet to swap and there’s no KYC required.Timestamps:0:00 Intro0:03:00 THORChain Marketing and Protocol Update0:07:00 Zephyr Conversation Begins0:11:00 Zephyr Presentation Starts0:12:00 Supported Tokens and Where the Yield Comes From0:14:00 What Is Zephyr?0:16:00 Why Privacy Is Important and Necessary0:18:00 Stablecoin Rails Currently Have an Off Switch0:19:00 The Holy Grail of Crypto: A Decentralized Yield-Bearing Stablecoin0:20:00 LUNA Mechanics Were Bad, the Idea Was Good0:21:00 Stablecoin Reserve Mechanics0:23:00 Dr. Future Explains Overcollateralized Mechanics0:25:00 How Proof-of-Work Rewards ZRS Holders0:27:00 Proven History of Hardiness and Stability0:29:00 Community Incentives When the Zeph Price Drops0:32:00 ZSD: Zephyr Stable Dollar Explained0:38:00 ZYS: Zephyr Yield Share Explained0:45:00 How Is It Sustainable?0:48:00 Understanding the Risk Profile0:49:00 No Lock-Up Periods0:50:00 ZRS: Zephyr Reserve Breakdown1:01:00 The Four-Asset Ecosystem1:03:00 Block Reward Breakdown1:04:00 The Zephyr Flywheel Thesis1:08:00 Zephyr EVM Bridge1:13:00 Could the ERC-20 Version Be Added to THORChain?1:15:00 Audience Question: Is the ERC-20 Version Significant Enough to Scale?1:20:00 The Best of Both Worlds Partnering Together1:22:00 Where Is the Outside Money Coming From?1:23:00 How Do You Acquire Zephyr Today?1:24:00 Wallet Support1:24:00 Stablecoin Swaps Will Be Free on THORChain1:27:00 THORChain Fee Structure1:30:00 Protocol-Owned Liquidity Growth and Considerations1:38:00 Cost to Run Zephyr1:42:00 Let's Get It on THORChain!1:47:00 Stablecoin Speed and Finality1:53:00 ZephFlow.live

In this episode, we provide a marketing update, followed by a brief update on the exploit and a discussion about privacy coins. The main topics, however, were the zero-fee stablecoin discussion and the dynamics between Rujira and base layer.Swap now on THORChain https://swap.thorchain.org/ without KYC or limits!THORChain is a decentralized cross-chain liquidity protocol that lets users swap assets directly between blockchains without wrapping or using centralized exchanges. Its app layer ecosystem means developers can build decentralized apps that tap directly into liquidity across chains. Unlike most platforms, it offers real ownership of your assets, deep liquidity, and fast swaps in one seamless network.To learn more about THORChain, check out more videos:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMbeCjNJ5Eohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M_4N9-3ZUohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzHXrsaWT-whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5v9XiXAJ7gSwap now on THORChain https://swap.thorchain.org/ without KYC or limits!

deving.zone maps the native cross-chain DeFi stack built on THORChain and powered by Rujira. Explore live pools, swap pairs, markets, projects, teams, denoms and frontends across THORChain. Swap now on THORChain https://swap.thorchain.org/ without KYC or limits!THORChain is a decentralized cross-chain liquidity protocol that lets users swap assets directly between blockchains without wrapping or using centralized exchanges. Its app layer ecosystem means developers can build decentralized apps that tap directly into liquidity across chains. Unlike most platforms, it offers real ownership of your assets, deep liquidity, and fast swaps in one seamless network.To learn more about THORChain, check out more videos:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMbeCjNJ5Eohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M_4N9-3ZUohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzHXrsaWT-whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5v9XiXAJ7gSwap now on THORChain https://swap.thorchain.org/ without KYC or limits!