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Normally Podcast: Immigration Reality Checks, Exit Tax Panic & the Collapse of Blue-State Economics

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On this episode of Normally, Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz break down the latest headlines the media doesn’t always revisit—and why the details matter.

They revisit major immigration stories that sparked national outrage, including new developments in high-profile deportation cases, misleading ICE detention claims, and what recent court rulings reveal about due process and enforcement. The hosts examine how narratives evolve—and why follow-ups often tell a very different story.

Then, they dive into the growing push from blue states to implement controversial “exit taxes” targeting wealthy residents. As billionaires and major companies continue relocating to states like Florida and Texas, Mary Katharine and Karol explore the economic consequences, political motivations, and whether these policies could backfire.

Plus, a broader conversation on capitalism vs. government control—from failed policy experiments to why basic economic principles are often ignored—and what that means for everyday Americans.

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