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“25 Years With National Geographic” Joe McNally on What Photography Lost (And What It Gained)

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Joe McNally, legendary professional photographer best known for his work with National Geographic, Life, and major commercial clients, and for his mastery of lighting and flash, joins me on the show to discuss an array of topics. 

We go deep on the future of photography, how the industry has changed from magazines to the digital era, what AI is really doing to trust in images, why craft is the foundation of art, and what separates a hobbyist from a working photographer through reproducible results, storytelling, and ethical responsibility.

Other things we discussed:

  • Why a truly great photograph can change you foreve
  • The camera as a “visa” and the privilege, access, and responsibility of photographing people
  • The collapse of durable editorial outlets and why modern campaigns disappear fast
  • How smartphone photography and in-house content have impacted rates and rights
  • Building a personal photography voice instead of copying lighting setups
  • Tenacity, failure tolerance, and why awards are “temporary”
  • What makes an image “good” and how to stop viewers mid-scroll with emotion
  • Research, rapport, and making subjects feel safe in portrait photography
  • Mentorship, gatekeeping, and why photography skills should be passed on
  • Food for the table vs food for the soul, and how photographers stay alive creatively
  • The isolation of the modern photography workflow and the loss of communal learning spaces

Find Joe on the following platforms:
Website: https://joemcnally.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joemcnallyphoto
Online Teaching Platform: https://betterpictureswithjoe.com

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