Another Assassination Attempt & What We're Missing About DEI

After another assassination attempt on President Trump, Esau McCaulley, Malcolm Foley and Mike Stralow wrestle with what it means that political violence is starting to feel normal, and why Christians must reject any attempt to justify it in Jesus' name. They unpack the so-called "Christian" logic behind the attacker's manifesto, and explain why the story of Jesus fundamentally undermines violence as a tool for change. Then the conversation turns to the backlash around DEI, where real concerns, bad ideas, and political overreactions have all been thrown into one messy debate. Also this week: why people quietly leave churches, and Producer Mike might need a new nickname.   0:00 - Theme Song   3:02 - Assassination Attempt   6:11 - Christian Non-Violence   9:05 - Identifying with the State   17:35 - Conspiracy Theories   20:53 - Where DEI Backfires   29:48 - The "DEI Bundle"   34:52 - Critiquing DEI Without Being MAGA   39:00 - Pastors and Congregation Numbers   55:24 - End Credits

We used to all watch the same thing, but now our entertainment options to our church options are more dived and fragmented than ever. Justin Giboney joins Esau McCaulley and Mike Stralow to discuss the collapse of monoculture. Then, Dave Chappelle recently took criticism for performing at a comedy festival in Saudi Arabia, but he made the claim that there is no such thing as clean money anymore. The crew discusses if that's true and how should Christians think about spending, giving, and participating in a system that's already broken. Also, is it fair to tax the rich and does it actually improve society if we do?   P Lewis Art Collection: https://www.instagram.com/plewiscollection/   0:00 - Theme Song   1:45 - The Love of Missing Out, LOMO   7:45 - Is Monoculture Dead?   12:28 - Ideology and Entertainment   22:45 - Sponsor - Tyndale - On The BEMA Podcast, Marty Solomon dives deep into the Bible. Learn more at https://navpress.com   23:56 - Sponsor - Brooklyn Bedding - For a quality mattress, go to https://www.brooklynbedding.com and use promo code ESAU to get 30% off site wide!   24:46 - Dave Chappell and Clear Money   37:10 - Mamdani and Housing Taxes in New York City   49:50 - End Credits

It was the AI image heard around the world. Esau and Mike are joined by Christine Jeske to talk about Trump's infamous AI image depicting him as a Christ figure, and whether it signals a real shift in his evangelical support or just a passing blip. They also dig into Justin Bieber's Coachella performance, asking whether it tapped into something deeper about longing, vulnerability, and public faith. Then the conversation turns to Anthropic's gathering of Christian leaders to explore whether AI could ever be considered a child of God. Finally, Christine shares about her new book, Racial Justice for the Long Haul, and what gives her hope in the midst of so much turmoil right now.   0:00 - Theme Song   2:00 - Justin Bieber's Coachella Laptop Performance   12:13 - The Pope Vs. the President   25:38 - Sponsor - Tyndale - On The BEMA Podcast, Marty Solomon dives deep into the Bible. Learn more at https://navpress.com   26:56 - Can AI Have a Soul?   31:18 - AI and Human Value   55:33 - End Credits

A government official claims God teleported him to a Waffle House, and somehow that is not the strangest part of this conversation. Esau is joined by producer Mike and Stephen Harris to discuss Holy Week at the White House, where the language of resurrection, sacrifice, and salvation was tangled up with politics, power, and some very questionable comparisons. They also wrestle with how Christians can believe in the miraculous without losing their grip on wisdom, and why performative faith keeps missing the point of the gospel. Finally, Esau and Stephen disagree about the casting of Paapa Essiedu as Snape in the new Harry Potter series, raising questions about storytelling, representation, and when creative changes actually make a story worse.   0:00 - Theme Song   1:55 - Teleporting to Waffle House!   11:38 - Comparing Trump to Christ   15:23 - Trump's Easter Tweet   20:21 - God and the State   28:42 - Sponsor - Tyndale - On The BEMA Podcast, Marty Solomon dives deep into the Bible. Learn more at https://navpress.com   30:05 - Saul and Performative Christianity   38:42 - HBO Cast a Black Actor as Snape?   55:55 - End Credits  

A sci-fi blockbuster about the end of the world is somehow the most hopeful movie in years. What does Project Hail Mary's success say about a culture drowning in cynicism? Esau McCaulley, Malcolm Foley, and Mike Stralow dig into why audiences are craving optimism again and whether the church (and Holy Post Media) has something to learn from it. Then the conversation turns to all the recent talk about "revival." Is something actually happening, or are we just reading the signs we want to see? They unpack why Christians are so fixated on growth, what we might be measuring wrong, and whether real renewal looks less like hype and more like repentance. Plus, Holy Week reflections, what's bringing them joy right now, and a pair of red Air Force Ones.   0:00 - Theme   0:21 - Holy Week with Esau   12:22 - Revival or Not?   17:56 - Curiosity Around Religion   26:10 - Endurance and the Black Church   30:05 - Slavery is a Crime Against Humanity   46:55 - End Credits

War used to be something a nation mourned. Now it's about banger memes. Esau is joined by Natasha Sistrunk Robinson and Producer Mike to talk about why the Trump Administration seems to prioritize its social media strategy over its war strategy. They also talk about Trump's response to Robert Mueller's death and reflect on new allegations about Cesar Chavez and what they reveal about leadership, abuse, and the danger of protecting movements over people. Also this week, Esau forgets a very important day.    Learn more about Natasha here - www.natashasrobinson.com   0:00 - Theme Song   4:47 - Trump's Glad Mueller's Dead   11:06 - Trump's Lasting Impact   19:31 - Pastors and Politics   24:07 - Sponsor - Brooklyn Bedding - For a quality mattress, go to https://www.brooklynbedding.com and use promo code ESAU to get 30% off site wide!   26:35 - White House War Memes   31:12 - Targeting Immature Young Men   42:03 - Caesar Chavez Scandal   53:26 - End Credits

A new study suggests Americans distrust each other more than almost any other nation, and Esau, Malcolm and Mike wrestle with whether we've crossed a line we can't come back from. They dig into the deeper spiritual roots of our outrage, asking what it actually means to love your enemies in an age of constant political combat. Then the conversation turns to Hollywood's obsession with youth and what our fear of aging reveals about us. They also take on the controversy over an unqualified Surgeon General nominee and what it says about leadership, loyalty, and truth. Also this week: Mike shoots his shot, Malcolm runs late, and somehow height insecurity becomes a real topic.   0:00 - Malcolm's Too Famous   1:37 - Theme Song   4:17 - Oscars and Plastic Surgery   8:54 - Mike's Too Tall   12:17 - End Stage Polarization   24:46 - Ideological Purity   32:40 - Unqualified Surgeon General   49:24 - End Credits

Are the latest headlines about Iran a sign that the end times are near? Esau, producer Mike, and pastor Sharon Miller examine why Christians often interpret global conflict through the lens of biblical prophecy and why the book of Revelation may challenge that instinct. Then, the group talks about a viral cultural moment involving a McDonald's CEO whose awkward burger bite sparked debate about authenticity and leadership in the influencer age. What does it say about our culture when even CEOs are expected to perform relatability online? Sharon also introduces the "relationship gap," a trend suggesting dating apps may actually reduce the differences between people who end up together. Plus, defending movie trailers and more Disney debates.   0:00 - Theme Song   1:38 - Chalamet Angers Ballet Fans   8:36 - Is the Iran War God-Appointed?   16:24 - Memeification of War   27:03 - CEO Eats Hamburger Weirdly   40:04 - Dating Gaps Getting Weird?   52:33 - End Credits

The United States and Israel have launched strikes against Iran and the world is trying to figure out what happens next. Justin Giboney joins the show to help unpack the politics, the constitutional questions, and the potential fallout both overseas and at home. Also, Esau looks at how America's relationship with Israel shaped the conflict and why some Christians see events like this through the lens of biblical prophecy. Plus: we give marriage advice to Tom Holland and Zendaya.   0:00 - Theme Song   1:02 - Does Justin Know Zendaya?   6:40 - At War with Iran   11:47 - Are We Liberating Iran?   18:12 - Sponsor - With & For: Psychology and Spirituality for Thriving Podcast. Check it out now! https://pod.link/1712333330   19:21 - Sponsor - Public Good Generation - In high school and looking to lead in faith? Check out this Summer Civics Program in Washington DC: https://ccpubliclife.org/holypost   21:03 - Israel's Influence on Trump   26:19 - Prophecy ad Abraham's Sin   31:20 - Trump's Broken Promises   42:42 - End Credits

The U.S. hockey team wins gold, but the celebration sparked bigger questions. Esau, Malcolm, and Mike discuss if America become the bully to the rest of the world? Also, Ben Sasse's public reflections on his terminal cancer diagnosis bring a different kind of clarity about faith, family, and what actually matters when time runs short. Then, with the passing of Jesse Jackson, we consider how to remember leaders who shaped history by honoring real progress without pretending perfection.   0:00 - Theme Song   2:10 - Parking Spot   5:36 - Canada Vs US Hockey   9:07 - Did David Become Goliath?   17:21 - Ben Sass and Facing Mortality   21:10 - Sponsor - Nazarene Theological Seminary - Looking for a program grounded in black theology? Check out the Doctor of Ministry in Black Leadership and Ministry at https://nts.edu/podcast   22:24 - Sponsor - With & For: Psychology and Spirituality for Thriving Podcast. Check it out now! https://pod.link/1712333330   25:44 - What's Worth Our Time?   35:42 - Jesse Jackson   50:34 - End Credits