Are single insulated cables in meter cupboards okay - ESF and NICEIC explain

I am joined by industry power houses Luke Osborne - ESF Technical Director, David Powell ESF electrical installation safety engineer, Paul Collins NICEIC technical director and Sam Donaghy NICEIC head of technical advice. We discuss what WRAG is, its role and one of the topical subjects some people are discussing online atm, namely meter cabinets and single insulated cables. I share my views which are opposing to those of Wrag and best practice guidance but with understanding towards the technical analysis of what a box is and how it can be seen as an electrical enclosure. I guess it boils down to external influences and how these boxes are accessed and operated. Even as skilled people should we be expected to enter areas that could reasonably provide us with insulated and sheathed protection when we cant isolate that "enclosure" pre entering it. I am interested to hear your thoughts and views on this and as I mentioned in the chat these people nail the vast majority of these questions and guidance documents. Which is why this particular issue makes no sense to me. My only hope is to stop seeing so many of these installations carried out on new build homes in particular. When consumer safety and standards matter it simply should not be a thing imho. Thanks to the gents for giving up time on an evening to talk about this topic and maybe we will have the opportunity to discuss other things in the future. A real privilege I am not ungrateful for as this recording was done at 7pm out of working hours.

We got into some topics and half on this one! Huge thanks to Richard and Craig for digging into these topics and sharing views/experience. Loved it and hopefully it is useful to those listening along. Richard sharing his involvement in investigating poor electrical work, Craig designing a global trading room floor and Mark taking Solar!

Was great to catch up with Richard and Craig after a bit of a while! We got into the ESF event, Craigs day job, RCD blinding, Testing for DC leakage and loads more! Also towards the end we discuss A121 training.....

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Mark, Richard and Craig discuss their experiences of training in the electrical industry with questions answered around science and principles, information on ESF initiatives and what we think to recent changes around minimum apprenticeship lengths and entry requirements. Loved this chat

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Any questions answered from employers, trainees and electricians including Mark who puts a question to Craig regarding  @Doncaster_Cables  PV ultra SWA. Merry Christmas to everyone who has listened along in 2024 and prior. Special thanks to all the individuals and brands helping along with the college drops which will be completed in early 2025. We will be back with regular weekly episodes in the New Year. #apprentice121

Can we rely on software for electrical design? What are ESF doing to support industry? What is ETT and the Northern Ireland event about? Why is Mark slowly sailing around the world? The ECN awards and Apprentice 121 college support visits. We cover a lot of ground in this one and it was brilliant to catch up with Richard and Craig. Go and watch this https://apprentice121.co.uk/louise-adamson if you do nothing else today, essential viewing. Loved it!

Long overdue catch up with Craig and Richard chatting about incoming changes to T levels (again), challenges training providers have, different earthing systems, steel conduit tips, science and principles tips and loadssss more. We have something coming with Michael Peace soon which is super exciting.

Exclusive run through of amendment 4 to BS 7671 of the wiring regulations with Richard Harvey from Electric Safety First and Craig Buist from Burgess Electrical Services. We rarely get an exclusive run at anything on the only podcast dedicated to apprentices and trainees but the stars aligned today for us! It was supposed to be purely earthing and bonding but we thought this made more sense! We also ran through the now uncool amendment 3 of BS 7671! We did include a run through of earthing systems right at the end! The wrag can found here https://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/professional-resources/technical-e-news/the-wrag/#:~:text=The%20aim%20of%20this%20forum,series%20of%20questions%20and%20answers. BEMA download here https://www.beama.org.uk/resourceLibrary/beama---markings-and-symbols-for-circuit-protection-devices---august-2024.html Draft for public comment here https://standardsdevelopment.bsigroup.com/search?Term=BS+7671 IET webinar here https://events.theiet.org/events/live-launch-of-the-dpc-for-amendment-4-2026-to-bs-76712018-iet-wiring-regulations/ CEF/IET one here https://www.linkedin.com/posts/city-electrical-factors_techtalks-series-4-bs-7671-proposed-changes-activity-7226995560732397568-0ucs?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop