The Six Levels of Wealth – And How You Can Move Up

On this week's Stansberry Investor Hour, Dan and Corey are joined by Nick Maggiulli. Nick is the chief operating officer of Ritholtz Wealth Management and founder of the financial blog Of Dollars and Data. His new book, The Wealth Ladder, comes out next week.  Nick kicks off the show by discussing The Wealth Ladder, including the six different levels of wealth and why income is a more crucial factor to building wealth than behavior. He also talks about jobs that will be a safe haven once artificial intelligence ("AI") becomes more prevalent, the mistakes people make when buying income-producing assets, the importance of diversification, and why he prefers to invest in index funds. (0:40) Next, Nick goes in depth on the spending mistakes people make that prevent them from moving up to a higher wealth level. He touches on diversification again, using Elon Musk versus Bill Gates as an example. Plus, he covers the different strategies for different wealth levels, why it's important to still focus on the nonfinancial things in life, statistical data for whether money can buy happiness, and the significance of money being a quantifiable thing. (17:27) Finally, Nick discusses the things that financially successful people may be overlooking, why the strategy for success may vary on a case-by-case basis, and the different levels of spending freedom. He says that level two allows freedom in the grocery store, level three allows freedom at restaurants, and level four allows freedom for traveling. And he shares a handy formula for people to use when it comes to nonessential spending. (35:15)

On this week's Stansberry Investor Hour, Dan and Corey welcome Rupal Bhansali back to the show. Rupal is the founder, CEO, chief investment officer, and portfolio manager of investment adviser Double Duty Money Management. She's also the author of the book Non-Consensus Investing and a leading figure in value investing, with more than three decades of experience. Rupal kicks off the show by discussing her investment philosophy, how she defines "winning" in the stock market, the main misconception about contrarian investing, and why it's more important to not lose money in the market than to earn money. She warns investors that they can still lose money when investing in a high-quality company. As she says, the key to value investing is low downside. Rupal uses the auto industry as an example of a low-quality, cyclical industry, but highlights the hidden opportunity in tires, which are a consumer staple and not cyclical. (0:38) Next, Rupal talks about getting the best of both worlds with growth and value investing. She notes that this is very difficult to do today with U.S. stocks but that there are many untapped opportunities abroad – especially in Latin America. Rupal then delves into the world of diversification, including why having uncorrelated investment ideas in your portfolio is so crucial. This leads to a conversation about knowing when to buy more shares when one of your stocks is down versus cutting your losses and selling completely. Rupal outlines three core reasons to sell a stock, regardless of whether a stop loss was hit or not. (16:15) Finally, Rupal gives her opinion on buying companies like Costco Wholesale that have very high multiples but keep trading higher. She says the reward isn't worth the risk, since there are 49 non-Costcos for every Costco, and trying to find the one winner is very difficult. Rupal reiterates that it's all about cutting your losses early, accepting that you'll get things wrong, and learning from your mistakes. She also covers the wider macro environment relating to President Donald Trump's tariffs, clarifying that she's "macro aware" rather than "macro driven." (29:48)

On this week's Stansberry Investor Hour, Dan and Corey welcome Mike Barrett back to the show. Mike is the editor of Select Value Opportunities and senior analyst for Extreme Value. He has decades of cash-flow modeling and valuation expertise that he uses to find underappreciated, high-quality growth stocks. Mike kicks things off by discussing President Donald Trump's tariffs, their implication in the context of broad market cycles, and a potential 2026 low. He explains that he believes stocks have limited upside from here because of extreme positive sentiment and rampant overvaluation. And because there's so much uncertainty, Mike advises investors to make sure they have high-quality businesses in their portfolios. He also points out that the most overvalued stocks today are the defensive ones, but that could change once the tariff situation eases. (1:47) Next, Mike breaks down his personal investing philosophy and why he uses macroeconomic factors to look ahead only a few weeks rather than longer term. He also talks about the importance of momentum, taking risks to find out what works best for you as an investor, Nvidia being undervalued today, one company he likes that offers a good way to compound your wealth, and the optionality baked into Sprouts Farmers Market thanks to the rising popularity of weight-loss drugs. (18:42) Finally, Mike discusses Costco Wholesale's fantastic business growth, the importance of finding companies that perform consistently well, his recommendation of Constellation Brands that earned a triple-digit return for subscribers, crypto, and generative AI. (43:03)

On this week's Stansberry Investor Hour, Dan and Corey welcome Garrett Baldwin to the show. Garrett is a research economist, financial analyst, and investigative journalist. He's also a contributor to our flagship newsletter, Stansberry's Investment Advisory, as well as author of the Me and the Money Printer Substack.  Garrett kicks off the show by explaining how he got his start in finance, why leaving the gold standard was the American economy's "core breaking point," and how liquidity is driving boom and bust cycles. He says that even though Consumer Price Index inflation can come in at 3% officially, actual currency debasement is 6% to 8% per year based on real assets. This leads Garrett to break down the "Cantillon effect," how everyday folks are most disadvantaged by excessive money printing, and why the American manufacturing sector has been destroyed. He also delves into the troubling trend of Americans essentially paying rent to foreign investors, why we'll "hit a wall" in 2026 or 2027, and how you can protect yourself from the inevitable fallout. (0:59) Next, Garrett analyzes a pattern that warns him to flee the markets, plus the contrarian signal of insider buying that he uses to time his reentry into the markets. He notes that this trend has been playing out consistently since 2008 and allows those aware to successfully buy the dip. Garrett says that company fundamentals still matter, however, and he explains what he looks for in a company before investing. He then reviews liquidity versus momentum, the Federal Reserve's relationship to liquidity, a core problem with the traditional banking system, and why the Fed tolerates shadow banking. (21:48) Finally, Garrett talks about the relationship between liquidity and bitcoin, why he likes silver today, and how quantitative easing paradoxically leads to a higher dollar. He explains that many paradoxes in our fiat currency system started in the 1990s, thanks to six major policy shifts and their incentives. Garrett goes in depth on how such policy has affected our financial system today and made the Fed more consequential for our wallets than the president. (41:38)

On this week's Stansberry Investor Hour, Dan and Corey welcome Vitaliy Katsenelson back to the show. Vitaliy is the CEO and chief investment officer of Investment Management Associates. He's also an author, award-winning writer, and founder of "The Intellectual Investor" newsletter and podcast.  Vitaliy kicks off the show by discussing the difficulty in writing books and how he has evolved as an investor over the years. He explains that through continuous trial and error, he has learned not to dumpster-dive for bad stocks just because they're cheap. He emphasizes the value of good management, knowing your own strengths, and allowing yourself to say no to investments that aren't in your circle of competence. Vitaliy also gives his thoughts on Warren Buffett's retirement and Berkshire Hathaway's stock today. (1:40) Next, Vitaliy shares his experience running portfolios and how his strategy differs from Buffett's. This leads to a conversation about what could happen to Berkshire after Buffett passes and what made Vitaliy decide "I don't want to be like Buffett." He gives his nuanced take on learning from legendary businessmen and other historical figures without agreeing with them on everything. Similarly, the U.S. trading with countries it disagrees with (like Russia) is important. Vitaliy discusses his own experience growing up in the Soviet Union and being "brainwashed" to hate Americans. And he talks more about finding a good work-life balance, no matter your career. (21:19) Then, Vitaliy dives into the psychology behind decision-making and willpower. He quotes one of his favorite sayings as a reminder to investors: "Knowing and not doing is not knowing." After that, Vitaliy shares why he believes Uber Technologies still has a lot of upside today. He notes that the stock isn't cheap, but it is undervalued. And he breaks down his reasoning for wanting to hold the stock long term, including its potential to incorporate Waymo or other self-driving cars on its app. (39:26)

On this week's Stansberry Investor Hour, Dan and Corey welcome Larry Lepard to the show. Larry – who boasts more than four decades of investing experience – is the co-founder and managing partner of Equity Management Associates. He's also the author of the recently released book The Big Print: What Happened to America and How Sound Money Will Fix It. Larry kicks off the show by diving deep into gold – why its price has been soaring recently, where its price could go next, and why a return to the gold standard after "50 years of mismanagement" would be a long-term positive. This leads to a conversation about President Donald Trump's tariffs and their potential unintended consequences, Elon Musk's disappointing Department of Government Efficiency, Trump's run-in with the bond vigilantes, and what could break Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell's stubbornness to lower rates. (1:47) Next, Larry talks about the psychological difficulty of bottom-fishing in the stock market and how fixing the monetary system could solve many societal problems that disproportionately affect the poor. He explains how exactly the U.S.'s fiat currency has "torn up the social fabric" and favors those who are already wealthy. Plus, Larry gives a multistep solution for how the system can be fixed so it's more fair, and he debunks the popular myth told by certain economists that a return to the gold standard wouldn't work. (25:18) Finally, Larry predicts currency failure within the next 10 years that will lead the U.S. to return to sound money. In the meantime, he advises investors to put their money in assets that the government can't print – gold, silver, bitcoin, and real estate. He says that bondholders are "the suckers at the table" thanks to inflation. And Larry closes things out by discussing the importance of studying history and longer-term cycles, the opportunity today in gold-mining stocks, and why he believes all investors should hold some bitcoin. (43:07)

On this week's Stansberry Investor Hour, Dan and Corey welcome Alex Morris to the show. Alex is the founder of TSOH (The Science of Hitting) Investment Research and an author. TSOH, which boasts more than 20,000 subscribers, aims to generate attractive long-term returns while providing complete transparency on the research process, portfolio decision-making, and returns. Alex kicks off the show by discussing the inspiration behind his new book, Buffett and Munger Unscripted: Three Decades of Investment and Business Insights From the Berkshire Hathaway Shareholder Meetings. He goes in depth on what he learned from Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger in the process of crafting his book, including understanding incentives, management turnover, and which macroeconomic factors are important. (1:46) Next, Alex talks about the "pointed" questions Buffett and Munger got during the dot-com era from shareholders who doubted their abilities. Then he breaks down his own investing style, how that style has evolved over the years, and how he got interested in investing in the first place. This leads to a discussion about struggling retailer Five Below (which Alex is keeping an eye on to see if it can turn its business around) and Dollar Tree (which Alex owns and still likes today). (19:53) Finally, Alex delves further into the retail space. He discusses Costco Wholesale versus Walmart, the importance of retailers understanding their core customer base, why Dollar Tree is misunderstood, geographic retail strategies, President Donald Trump's tariffs, and a U.K.-based mixers company he finds attractive. (40:24)

On this week's Stansberry Investor Hour, Dan and Corey welcome Rob Spivey back to the show. Rob is the director of research at our corporate affiliate Altimetry. With both buy-side and sell-side experience, he offers his unique perspective on the markets today. Rob kicks off the show by describing how Altimetry uses "Uniform accounting" to get a better sense of a company's financials and the health of the U.S. market as a whole. This leads to a conversation about corporate profitability, credit risk, and the future of AI. Rob explains the role Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency is playing in implementing AI at the federal level, how AI could revamp Medicare and Medicaid, and what the fiscal multiplier effect means for government spending and AI. (1:47) Next, Rob breaks down the entire AI ecosystem and its many parts. He cites Twilio as an example of an AI company that's leveraging this technology in interesting ways today. And he goes in depth on a hidden opportunity in AI investing: companies that are warehousing and organizing data. "Nobody's paying attention to them now," he says. Rob then covers the government's profit surplus, how it differs from China's, and how a trade war could lead to a real war. (20:56) Then, Rob divulges America's secret weapon for corporate dominance: the Bill of Rights. He notes that it protects innovation and gives the U.S. a leg up on a global scale. After that, Rob discusses large language models and how they're trained, the usefulness of Google's NotebookLM, and the "revolution" that will be happening in AI in the next three to six months. (39:17)

On this week's Stansberry Investor Hour, Dan and Corey welcome Chris Mayer back to the show. Chris is co-founder and portfolio manager of Woodlock House Family Capital – a firm that focuses on long-term, patient investing. He has also written several books, including 100 Baggers: Stocks That Return 100-to-1 and How to Find Them. Chris kicks things off by breaking down his "CODE" acronym that he uses for picking stocks – cheap, owner operator, disclosures, and excellent financial condition. He lists Brown & Brown as an example of one such company that checks all four boxes. And he shares a trucking company he likes because of its lower-than-average turnover rate. This leads to a conversation about the importance of management having skin in the game and why investors should mostly leave their portfolios alone. Chris then uses Monster Beverage as a case study for identifying a good company. (1:47) Next, Chris talks about investor psychology. He says that it's difficult to hold stocks through large drawdowns and through periods of boredom, but that's how you can make a lot of money in the long term. Doing nothing is often the best thing you can do for your portfolio. Chris also covers how philosophy has influenced his investing style, the hidden opportunity in Swedish stocks, two specific Swedish companies that he likes today, and why you should always stick to your core principles – even if it means missing some winners along the way. (20:02) Finally, Chris explains that staying true to your investment principles is hardest (yet also most crucial) when times get tough. It all comes down to knowing yourself, your risk tolerance, and what you're most comfortable investing in. Chris shares the names of two spun-off companies he's excited about today, as he expects a big surge in free cash flow for both. He clarifies that these are for holding long term rather than trying to make a quick buck. And Chris finishes with a discussion about why the recent tariff drama doesn't really matter. (39:26)

On this week's Stansberry Investor Hour, Dan and Corey welcome their colleague Mike DiBiase back to the show. Mike is the editor of Stansberry's Credit Opportunities and senior analyst for Stansberry's Investment Advisory.  Mike kicks off the episode by discussing the rampant fear in the stock market today. He notes that this fear is not yet reflected in the credit market, which is a "mistake," as credit investors should be more concerned. Mike then talks about the lack of good high-yield bonds out there, corporate bankruptcies being on the rise, the worrying number of zombie companies, the Starbucks recession indicator, consumer confidence hitting a 12-year low, and why he believes things are "not going to end well" for the economy. (1:40) Next, Mike examines the budget-deficit problem and the market's expectation that the government will always bail it out. He highlights the fact that the U.S. has been printing money at an above-average rate the past year and says he believes inflation will spike once more as a result. All of this is part of the "new world" that investors will need to learn to navigate, including permanently higher interest rates, bonds being a better choice than stocks, and an inevitable credit crisis similar to the one from 2008. (21:32) Finally, Mike explains the economic difference between tariffs and inflation, how investors can "make a killing" from what's about to happen, and the many advantages corporate bonds have over stocks – such as it being easier to spot a bottom with bonds. He says he's waiting until credit spreads surpass 1,000 basis points, and then he will deploy his strategy of finding the best bonds out there with the lowest risk of defaulting. (40:22)