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President Obama and Marilynne Robinson: A Conversation

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In this exclusive conversation, President Obama and author Marilynne Robinson discuss topics ranging from the problems of American democracy and the responsibilities of citizenship to the challenges of Christianity and their shared sense of the values and virtues of small-town America. The conversation was recorded on September 14, 2015 in Des Moines, Iowa. This is the first part of their conversation; the second part will appear on October 26.

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