THROUGH THE FOREST with Jennifer Silva, Episode 8: JEZEBEL, featuring Paulina Stevens and Jezmina Von Thiele of ROMANISTAN

We read the Seven of Swords for love, the Queen of Cups for money, and the Tower for guidance, drawing a straight line from gut truth to financial flow to necessary change. We share practical steps to spot red flags, invite abundance, and stay calm when life shakes.• Seven of Swords as love: honesty, red flags, self-betrayal checks• How to bring concerns up with clarity and boundaries• Queen of Cups money energy: treat money as living flow• Simple money magic plus practical steps for momentum• New moon in Capricorn as a boost for grounded action• Tower guidance: release attachments and rebuild with integrity• Somatic tips for staying soft through sudden changeYou can book 1:1 readings with Jez at jezminavonthiele.com, and book readings and holistic healing sessions with Paulina at romaniholistic.com.Thank you for listening to Romanistan podcast.You can find us on Instagram, TikTok, BlueSky, and Facebook @romanistanpodcast, and on Twitter @romanistanpod. To support us, Join our Patreon for extra content or donate to Ko-fi.com/romanistan, and please rate, review, and subscribe. It helps us so much. Follow Jez on Instagram @jezmina.vonthiele & Paulina @romaniholistic. You can get our book Secrets of Romani Fortune Telling, online or wherever books are sold. If you love it, please give us 5 stars on Amazon & Goodreads. Visit https://romanistanpodcast.com for events, educational resources, merch, and more. Email us at [email protected] for inquiries. Romanistan is hosted by Jezmina Von Thiele and Paulina StevensConceived of by Paulina StevensEdited by Viktor Pachas, Bianca, Dia LunaMusic by Viktor PachasArtwork by Elijah VardoSupport the show

Listen to Through the Forest Podcast with Jennifer Silva wherever you get podcasts! We were honored to be guests for episode 8 where we discussed our work and the archetype of story of Jezebel, and she graciously let us share the episode here for Romanistan listeners, but if you love music and stories, head on over to the forest for more of Jennifer. Support the show

A fiery, creative week invites bold love and shared projects, while money asks for caution and health asks for care. We weigh choices, trim what drains, and protect the energy that keeps everything moving.• Queen of Wands as a cue for action and creative love• equal energy exchange as a health check for relationships• honoring animal companions as true family• Two of Swords signaling a money crossroads and pause• using tools, strategy, and subtraction to steady finances• Five of Pentacles reframed as purposeful budgeting• health as a core resource to protect• trusting tradeoffs while making room for better fitsJoin the MAKE IT HAPPEN ritual on 1/18/2026 at 8 pm est with replay hosted by IMMATERIAL WORLD, Jez's other podcastThank you for listening to Romanistan podcast.You can find us on Instagram, TikTok, BlueSky, and Facebook @romanistanpodcast, and on Twitter @romanistanpod. To support us, Join our Patreon for extra content or donate to Ko-fi.com/romanistan, and please rate, review, and subscribe. It helps us so much. Follow Jez on Instagram @jezmina.vonthiele & Paulina @romaniholistic. You can get our book Secrets of Romani Fortune Telling, online or wherever books are sold. If you love it, please give us 5 stars on Amazon & Goodreads. Visit https://romanistanpodcast.com for events, educational resources, merch, and more. Email us at [email protected] for inquiries. Romanistan is hosted by Jezmina Von Thiele and Paulina StevensConceived of by Paulina StevensEdited by Viktor Pachas, Bianca, Dia LunaMusic by Viktor PachasArtwork by Elijah VardoSupport the show

We’re here to celebrate the release of Dr. Matache’s new book, The Permanence of Anti-Roma Racism (Un)uttered Sentences.Dr. Margareta (Magda) Matache is a Lecturer on Social and Behavioral Sciences at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and the co-founder and Director of the Roma Program at the FXB Center for Health and Human Rights, Harvard University. She is also a member of the Lancet Commission on Racism, Structural Discrimination and Global Health.Dr. Matache’s research focuses on the manifestations and impacts of racism and other systems of oppression in different geographical and political contexts. Her research examines structural and social determinants of health, and their nexus with the historical past and contemporary public policies, with a particular focus on anti-Roma racism.You can find more information here: https://fxb.harvard.edu/blog/directory/margareta-matache/Romani crushes are:Angela Kocze Sebi FejzulaCayetano Fernandez Dezso MateIoanida CostacheAlba Hernández Sánchez Carmen GheorgheMaria DumitruAldessa LincanPapuszaKatarina TaikonMateo MaximoffÁgnes DarócziNicolae GheorgheAndrzej MirgaNicoleta BituRoma Armee Lindy Larsen Giuviplen Theater Mihaela Dragan Zita Moldovan You can book 1:1 readings with Jez at jezminavonthiele.com, and book readings and holistic healing sessions with Paulina at romaniholistic.com.Thank you for listening to Romanistan podcast.You can find us on Instagram, TikTok, BlueSky, and Facebook @romanistanpodcast, and on Twitter @romanistanpod. To support us, Join our Patreon for extra content or donate to Ko-fi.com/romanistan, and please rate, review, and subscribe. It helps us so much. Follow Jez on Instagram @jezmina.vonthiele & Paulina @romaniholistic. You can get our book Secrets of Romani Fortune Telling, online or wherever books are sold. If you love it, please give us 5 stars on Amazon & Goodreads. Visit https://romanistanpodcast.com for events, educational resources, merch, and more. Email us at [email protected] for inquiries. Romanistan is hosted by Jezmina Von Thiele and Paulina StevensConceived of by Paulina StevensEdited by Viktor Pachas, Bianca, Dia LunaMusic by Viktor PachasArtwork by Elijah VardoSupport the show

A three-card New Year spread invites honest feeling, value-based money choices, and bold hope. We read Five of Cups for love, Justice for money, and The Star for guidance, then share community updates and a ritual to reset your year.• Five of Cups as a call to feel and set boundaries in love • holding gratitude and grief at the same time • Justice as financial fairness and value alignment • mutual aid, nonprofit support, and paying creative labor • The Star as trust, balance, and acting like success is certain • reframing resolutions toward joy, health, and intention • invitation to a New Year ritual, MAKE IT HAPPEN, with astrology and tarot • Ko-Fi donations to sustain the showYou can book 1:1 readings with Jez at jezminavonthiele.com, and book readings and holistic healing sessions with Paulina at romaniholistic.com.Thank you for listening to Romanistan podcast.You can find us on Instagram, TikTok, BlueSky, and Facebook @romanistanpodcast, and on Twitter @romanistanpod. To support us, Join our Patreon for extra content or donate to Ko-fi.com/romanistan, and please rate, review, and subscribe. It helps us so much. Follow Jez on Instagram @jezmina.vonthiele & Paulina @romaniholistic. You can get our book Secrets of Romani Fortune Telling, online or wherever books are sold. If you love it, please give us 5 stars on Amazon & Goodreads. Visit https://romanistanpodcast.com for events, educational resources, merch, and more. Email us at [email protected] for inquiries. Romanistan is hosted by Jezmina Von Thiele and Paulina StevensConceived of by Paulina StevensEdited by BiancaMusic by Viktor PachasArtwork by Elijah VardoSupport the show

We read Three of Cups, The Chariot, and Ace of Cups to close the year with joy, direction, and heart. We celebrate community, map real money moves, and ground everything in boundaries and healing while naming the reality of anti‑Roma hate and how to help.• Three of Cups as celebration and connection• visibility, jealousy, and nontraditional relationships• The Chariot as focused momentum and promises kept• small steps for goals, travel, and opportunity• Ace of Cups as scheduled care and strong boundaries• loving‑kindness practice to expand compassion• how to support Roma creators against hate• free boosts: ratings, reviews, and shares• paid support: donations and year‑ahead readingsThank you so much for tuning in. We really appreciate you. We couldn't do this without you. If you're making donations in the new year, we are entirely donation run. You can donate to our Ko-Fi, Venmo us, get a reading with us and tip us extra or whatever. And if you would like to book a year ahead reading, you can book with Paulina at romaniholistic.com, and you can book with me at jezminavonthiele.com. If you're not the type to fight in the comments but want to boost us, giving us a five-star rating and a nice little review makes such a huge difference for us.Thank you for listening to Romanistan podcast.You can find us on Instagram, TikTok, BlueSky, and Facebook @romanistanpodcast, and on Twitter @romanistanpod. To support us, Join our Patreon for extra content or donate to Ko-fi.com/romanistan, and please rate, review, and subscribe. It helps us so much. Follow Jez on Instagram @jezmina.vonthiele & Paulina @romaniholistic. You can get our book Secrets of Romani Fortune Telling, online or wherever books are sold. If you love it, please give us 5 stars on Amazon & Goodreads. Visit https://romanistanpodcast.com for events, educational resources, merch, and more. Email us at [email protected] for inquiries. Romanistan is hosted by Jezmina Von Thiele and Paulina StevensConceived of by Paulina StevensEdited by Viktor Pachas, Bianca, Dia LunaWith Music by Viktor PachasAnd Artwork by Elijah VardoSupport the show

We pull three cards for the week—Ace of Pentacles, Six of Swords, and the Tower—and turn them into clear steps for steady love, smart money moves, and liberating boundaries. Foundations get built, routes get chosen, and old stories meet the match.• love anchored by routines and shared plans• practical steps like moving in, joint projects, weekly rituals• money transitions that trade friction for direction• travel choices and creative budgeting for the holidays• letting go of side hustles or goals that drain• the Tower as honest reset and controlled burn• boundaries with family and work during festive stress• pairing stability with change for real progressJoin the Santa Jez Abundance Ritual on Dec 22 at 8 p.m. EST. Tickets are by donation, split 50/50 between the podcast and E-Romnja. Replay available. Sign up via the link in the show notes, Eventbrite, or jezminavonthiele.com. You can also donate directly! You can book 1:1 readings with Jez at jezminavonthiele.com, and book readings and holistic healing sessions with Paulina at romaniholistic.com.Thank you for listening to Romanistan podcast.You can find us on Instagram, TikTok, BlueSky, and Facebook @romanistanpodcast, and on Twitter @romanistanpod. To support us, Join our Patreon for extra content or donate to Ko-fi.com/romanistan, and please rate, review, and subscribe. It helps us so much. Follow Jez on Instagram @jezmina.vonthiele & Paulina @romaniholistic. You can get our book Secrets of Romani Fortune Telling, online or wherever books are sold. If you love it, please give us 5 stars on Amazon & Goodreads. Visit https://romanistanpodcast.com for events, educational resources, merch, and more. Email us at [email protected] for inquiries. Romanistan is hosted by Jezmina Von Thiele and Paulina StevensConceived of by Paulina StevensEdited by Viktor Pachas, Bianca, Dia LunaWith Music by Viktor PachasAnd Artwork by Elijah VardoSupport the show

We have our weekly tarot reading for love, money, and guidance. Conflict becomes clarifying, money becomes stable, and boundaries point to a fuller life.• details for donation-based Santa Jez Abundance Ritual on the 22nd of December with replay to raise money for the podcast and E-Romnja Wi-Fi  wish lists, an abundance meditation, and guided reading for the new year• love card Five of Wands as friction and boundary clarity• nonviolent communication and Plum Village tools to de-escalate• money card Queen of Pentacles as stability and practical skills• bookkeeping, artist tax resources, small business grants, smart reinvestment• guidance card Eight of Cups as leaving draining patterns• reframing help and outsourcing as dignified work and self-care• reminder that we offer gift certificates, readings, handmade goods, and holiday offerings• shop small, support creators, boycott billionairesPlease join us for the Santa Jez Abundance Ritual on December 22 at 8 p.m. EST. Tickets are donation-based, split 50/50 between the podcast and E-Romnja. Sign up via the link in the show notes or our sites. If you can’t attend, donate directly through the Eventbrite links.You can book 1:1 readings with Jez at jezminavonthiele.com, and book readings and holistic healing sessions with Paulina at romaniholistic.com.Thank you for listening to Romanistan podcast.You can find us on Instagram, TikTok, BlueSky, and Facebook @romanistanpodcast, and on Twitter @romanistanpod. To support us, Join our Patreon for extra content or donate to Ko-fi.com/romanistan, and please rate, review, and subscribe. It helps us so much. Follow Jez on Instagram @jezmina.vonthiele & Paulina @romaniholistic. You can get our book Secrets of Romani Fortune Telling, online or wherever books are sold. If you love it, please give us 5 stars on Amazon & Goodreads. Visit https://romanistanpodcast.com for events, educational resources, merch, and more. Email us at [email protected] for inquiries. Romanistan is hosted by Jezmina Von Thiele and Paulina StevensConceived of by Paulina StevensEdited by Viktor Pachas, Bianca, Dia LunaWith Music by Viktor PachasAnd Artwork by Elijah VardoSupport the show

Diana Norma Szokolyai is a writer, interdisciplinary artist, educator and healer. Her books include Disobedient Futures, CREDO: An Anthology of Manifestos & Sourcebook for Creative Writing, Parallel Sparrows, and Roses in the Snow. Her poetry and prose appear in Chariot Press Literary Journal, Critical Romani Studies, and more. A finalist for the inaugural Poet Laureate of Salem, MA, she was also shortlisted for the Bridport Prize in poetry. Working with composers from around the world, her poetry & music collaborations have hit the Creative Commons Hot 100 list and featured on WFMU-FM. Her poetry has been translated into German for the international anthology of Romani poets Die Morgendämmerung der Worte, Moderner Poesie–Atlas der Roma und Sinti. She has performed her poetry with music in many venues including Spoken Word Paris, Outpost 186, Sidewalk Café, Lowell Celebrates Kerouac, and Salem Arts Festival poetry. Her poetry has been supported by grants from the City of Salem Public Art Commission and the Center for Arts and Social Justice at Vermont College of Fine Arts, where she served as an inaugural fellow. She is Co-Founder/Co-Director of Chagall Performance Art Collaborative and serves as Co-Founder/Co-Director of Cambridge Writers’ Workshop. She is on faculty at Salem State University and Harborlight Montessori. Passionate about energy healing, she founded Sacred Swan Healing Arts, based in Salem, MA.Follow @sacredswanhealingarts and @diananormasRomani crushes in this episode are Cecilia Woloch, Margit Bangó, and Roby Lakatos SANTA JEZ ABUNDANCE RITUAL FUNDRAISERjezminavonthiele.comromaniholistic.com @romanistanpodcast. Join our Patreon  or donate to Ko-fi.com/romanistan, and please rate, review, and subscribe.  @jezmina.vonthiele @romaniholistic. Secrets of Romani Fortune Telling https://romanistanpodcast.com Email us at [email protected] is hosted by Jezmina Von Thiele and Paulina StevensConceived of by Paulina StevensEdited by Viktor PachasWith Music by Viktor PachasAnd Artwork by Elijah VardoSupport the show

We read Three of Wands for love, Eight of Wands for money, and Six of Cups for guidance, weaving collaboration, momentum, and inner-child joy into a clear plan for the week. We also share details for our Santa Jez Abundance Ritual fundraiser supporting the podcast + E-Romnja on December 22 at 8 pm est, and we invite listeners to shop small with us for the holidays.• Three of Wands as love vision and expansion• collaborative projects to deepen bonds• polyamory resources for secure connection• Eight of Wands as fast financial momentum• marketing sprints, applications, and visibility• Six of Cups as inner-child guidance and joy• creative dreams, poetry, and authentic sharing• holiday gift certificates and small business offers• community fundraiser for IRomnia with ritual and meditationYou can book 1:1 readings with Jez at jezminavonthiele.com, and book readings and holistic healing sessions with Paulina at romaniholistic.com.Thank you for listening to Romanistan podcast.You can find us on Instagram, TikTok, BlueSky, and Facebook @romanistanpodcast, and on Twitter @romanistanpod. To support us, Join our Patreon for extra content or donate to Ko-fi.com/romanistan, and please rate, review, and subscribe. It helps us so much. Follow Jez on Instagram @jezmina.vonthiele & Paulina @romaniholistic. You can get our book Secrets of Romani Fortune Telling, online or wherever books are sold. If you love it, please give us 5 stars on Amazon & Goodreads. Visit https://romanistanpodcast.com for events, educational resources, merch, and more. Email us at [email protected] for inquiries. Romanistan is hosted by Jezmina Von Thiele and Paulina StevensConceived of by Paulina StevensEdited by Bianca With Music by Viktor PachasAnd Artwork by Elijah VardoSupport the show