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Bridget Phillipson on life as education secretary

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One of the two candidates to be deputy leader of Labour joins Nick at the end of party's conference in Liverpool.

Bridget Phillipson opens up about how her own experience of poverty informs her political views on childcare, schools and universities.

She also reveals her DJ set-list

Producer: Daniel Kraemer Research: Chloe Desave Editor: Giles Edwards

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