Matt Gray Interview: Building personal brands, communities, and media-first startups

Dan Martell went from jail at 17 to building and selling 3 tech companies. Now he coaches top software CEOs, runs AI-first ventures, and wrote the bestselling book Buy Back Your Time. In this interview, we talk about entrepreneurship, AI, family, and what really drives success.Here's my ​personal notes​ from the interview (in visual form)!Follow Dan Martell:​🖥 Website: ​danmartell.comX​: ​@danmartell​​​​​📷 Instagram: ​@​​danmartell​​📱TikTok: ​@danvmartell​​📹YouTube: ​@danmartell​​​​​​​​👔LinkedIn: ​@dmartell​​​Follow Neville:​👨🏼‍💼 Join As Member: ​copywritingcourse.com​​🖥 Website: ​SwipeFile.com​​X: ​@nevmed​​📷 Instagram: ​​@neville_medhora​​📱TikTok: ​​​​​@neville.medhora​​📘 Book: ​This book will teach you how to write better​​​​​​▶️ YouTube: ​@kopywriting

Matt Gray is known for giving entrepreneur advice online, with millions across all the social platforms, but before that he founded the BitMaker Coding School - Largest in Canada, that was acquired for $410m, he bought Herb.com and built it to a community of 14m, then started his current venture Founder OS with 2,500 community members launching businesses.Follow Matt Gray: 🖥 Website: ​​​​founderos.com​​​​ 📷 Instagram: ​​@matthgray​​ 📱TikTok: ​​@realmattgray​ 📹YouTube: ​​​​@realmattgray ​👔LinkedIn: ​@mattgray​Follow Neville: 👨🏼‍💼 Join As Member: ​copywritingcourse.com​ 🖥 Website: ​SwipeFile.com ​X X: ​@nevmed ​📷 Instagram: ​​@neville_medhora​ 📱TikTok: ​​​​@neville.medhora​ 📘 Book: ​This book will teach you how to write better​​ ​▶️ YouTube: ​@kopywriting

First, jump inside ​Copywriting Course​ to review every page of your site with me today.Second, checkout this interview with Matt Kepnes, known as ​Nomadic Matt​...he's the founder of the most well known personal travel blogs on the internet. He’s wrote a book called How To Travel the World for $75/day:Full notes posted here.

​Ryan Helms is the former CEO of Legacy Podcasting, a content marketing agency specializing in podcast and YouTube production.

Eli Facenda runs Freedom Travel Systems, and basically is like a travel agent for people with credit card points.0:00 - Intro0:20 - How the Internet Replaced Traditional Travel Agents1:00 - Eli: The CPA + Travel Agent Hybrid1:46 - How I Accidentally Built Up Over a Million Points & Traveled for Free for 7 Years3:40 - What Is a Travel Agent Now? Two Modern Roles Explained5:45 - How Eli Makes Money: Commissions, Fees & Memberships8:20 - Travel Avatars: The Nomad eCommerce Guy & Family Luxury Travelers9:25 - Why Credit Card Optimization Is So Hard to Follow10:30 - Asking Nomadic Matt About Credit Cards (Most Don’t Have This Access)11:35 - Points Per Mile: How to Calculate Value for High-End Travel13:35 - First-Class Flights vs. Cool Hotels — What Do People Prefer?15:38 - Sam’s Private Jet to Middle Seat Story (The Struggle Is Real)18:12 - Why First Class Reduces Travel Variables (Coach = Chaos)19:30 - Why Hotels Feel Like a Bigger Ripoff Than Flights22:15 - Ranking Points: Non-Transferable, Airline-Specific, or Transferable Bank Points23:59 - Why Airlines Use Complex Point Transfer Structures for Huge Deals25:35 - Airlines Are Just Banks with Airplanes26:32 - How the Internet Ruined Loyalty Program Benefits (But Increased CC Signups)27:45 - Subscribe to Us!28:41 - Why Travel Blogger Monetization Has Dropped Because of AI30:10 - Joe’s Shift From Selling $10 Travel Guides to Personalized Itineraries31:55 - Where Travel Bloggers Are Pivoting as Competition Increases33:15 - How Travel Bloggers Monetize: Affiliates, Sponsorships & Travel Insurance35:00 - Buying an Instagram Account With 200K Followers for Free Perks37:29 - The Virtual Concierge: Hotels Paying for Itineraries That Boost Destinations39:14 - Why Online Travel Agencies (Like Orbitz & Expedia) Are Affiliate-Driven39:35 - The Ultra-Luxury Travel Market: Planes, Yachts, Helicopters & Private Villas41:40 - My Private Jet Experiences (No, I Didn’t Pay!)42:50 - Amex Platinum FHR: Extra Perks at Luxury Hotels44:08 - Can 9-to-5 Workers Accumulate Massive Travel Points? (Yes, But It’s Hard)45:40 - eCommerce Businesses That Break Even—Just to Earn Credit Card Points47:25 - Eli Accidentally Lived in a “Creator House” With Internet Personalities49:09 - Social Media Follower Inflation: Why Many Numbers Are Fake50:35 - Eli’s 25M+ Instagram Reels Views (Great for Credibility, Bad for Leads)51:40 - Why Email Is Still King for Monetization (Even for Big Creators)54:00 - Ross Hudgens: Niche Videos With $10M Lead Potential55:10 - iOS 14 & Privacy Laws Ruined Traffic Tracking for Social Media56:20 - How Mini Case Studies Inspire People to Take Action57:40 - Why People Buy Travel Services Just to Force Themselves to Go58:25 - Costco as the New Travel Agent: Pre-Set Trips & Big Bookings1:02:00 - Why Eli Uses Skool for His Community (Simple & Focused)1:04:00 - Why Communities Need a Purpose, Not Just Private Access1:06:30 - The Kopywriting Kourse Rebrand (And Why I Miss the “KK”)1:08:30 - Fun Coincidence: “elitravelguy” Sounds Like “Elite Travel Guy”1:09:05 - Join the Copywriting Course to Become a Great Copywriter!🟢 Subscribe for more videos like this:https://www.youtube.com/kopywriting?sub_confirmation=1✉️ Signup to the ultra-popular SWIPES Email Newsletter:https://copywritingcourse.com/newsletterFollow Eli Facenda 🖥 Website: https://www.freedomtravelsystems.com📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elitravelguyFollow Copywriting Course and Neville:👨🏼‍💼 Join As Member: https://copywritingcourse.com/join🖥 Website:...

Mike Feldstein started off in the Floods, Fire, Mould Removal, Disaster Chasing business, and currently is a huge seller of indoor air purifiers that look like a giant Alexa device. We did a pod about it that people loved. Follow Copywriting Course and Neville:👨🏼‍💼 Join As Member: https://copywritingcourse.com/join🖥 Website: https://copywritingcourse.com🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/nevmed📘 Book: https://amzn.to/3xUlUJQ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/kopywriting🎤 Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/neville-medhora-talks-copywriting/id1501246238

Bilawal Sidhu is the host of the TED AI Show, a company scout for venture capital firm A16Z, a creator on YouTube TikTok with 1.4M subs, used to work at Google, and has a focus on AI, AR & VRCheck out the notes here: https://copywritingcourse.com/courses/interviews/bilawal-sidhu-interview/Follow Copywriting Course and Neville:👨🏼‍💼 Join As Member: https://copywritingcourse.com/join🖥 Website: https://copywritingcourse.com🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/nevmed📘 Book: https://amzn.to/3xUlUJQ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/kopywriting🎤 Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/neville-medhora-talks-copywriting/id1501246238

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