YAGNI: Retiring from programming

Matt Swanson had me back on YAGNI to talk about the fallout from DHH's Rails World keynote and what it means for your weekend. We discuss what happens to the "one-person framework" when agents write the code, how frustrating it is when something is absolutely correct but still misses the point, and how I've accidentally constructed a dark factory with agents building and maintaining my iOS apps. We also get into what I'd tell developers who are worried about where all this is heading and why World of Warcraft is my dark horse candidate to beat Grand Theft Auto 6 in November. Appearing on: YAGNI Published on: 2026-10-02 Original URL: https://share.transistor.fm/s/192793fc Comments? Questions? Suggestion of a podcast I should guest on? [email protected] or send feedback.

Quincy Larson over at freeCodeCamp had me on their podcast to discuss how the rapidly changing software industry is impacting junior developers and what they can do about it. I don't normally spend time talking about this stuff, because I started programming in the 90s and can't claim to know anything about what it's like to just be starting now. I've also always discouraged people from getting into software development unless they're super passionate about it, which has been out of step with the "learn to code" hype train that gathered steam over the last fifteen years only to run into a brick wall recently. His audience is way larger and composed of quite different people than those who follow my stuff, so I strongly recommend you read every last YouTube comment. Some pretty crazy shit, if I'm being honest. Makes me glad I don't have 11 million subscribers. Appearing on: freeCodeCamp Podcast Published on: 2026-03-17 Original URL: https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/there-are-2-kinds-of-devs-one-of-them-is-screwed-justin-searls-interview-podcast-210/ Comments? Questions? Suggestion of a podcast I should guest on? [email protected]

Joe Leo and Valentino Stoll sat with me to talk about why I quit speaking and an exciting year of iteration on AI development workflows. Appearing on: The Ruby AI Podcast Published on: 2025-10-25 Original URL: https://www.therubyaipodcast.com/2388930/episodes/18044989-the-tldr-of-ai-dev-real-workflows-with-justin-searls Comments? Questions? Suggestion of a podcast I should guest on? [email protected]

Jared Norman interviewed me after he wrote about the order in which programmers choose to write their code and I offered this response. In this episode, we touch on this before launching into a more expansive discussion on why the agile movement fizzled out and what we can reclaim from a developer workflow perspective now that we're experiencing our first major market upheaval since then with the rise of coding agents. Appearing on: Dead Code Published on: 2025-09-09 Original URL: https://shows.acast.com/dead-code/episodes/fear-driven-everything-with-justin-searls Comments? Questions? Suggestion of a podcast I should guest on? [email protected]

Jerod and I sat down after WWDC to rifle through Apple's various announcements and dish our takes. As usual, we found a lot to like and (IMNSHO) did a better job than other commentators in ignoring the idle chatter on social media that tends to dominate WWDC discourse in favor of the more meaningful changes the keynote heralds. You can find it on YouTube: Appearing on: The Changelog Recorded on: 2025-06-13 Original URL: https://changelog.com/friends/97 Comments? Questions? Suggestion of a podcast I should guest on? [email protected]

Had a blast, as usual, joining my Changelog friends for a vigorous discussion of Apple's Intelligence struggles and the tumultuous state of the software industry. It's also on YouTube: Appearing on: The Changelog Recorded on: 2025-03-18 Original URL: https://changelog.com/friends/85 Comments? Questions? Suggestion of a podcast I should guest on? [email protected]

Recorded an episode of IndieRails with Jess Brown & Jeremy Smith live at Rails World 2024 in Toronto about my final talk and Becky's new app. Appearing on: IndieRails Published on: 2024-10-24 Original URL: https://www.indierails.com/45 Comments? Questions? Suggestion of a podcast I should guest on? [email protected]

Was featured on Timothy Chaten's "Vision Pros" podcast, a show where the dozens of us dedicated Vision Pro users gather to chat about the fledgling platform. Appearing on: Vision Pros Published on: 2024-07-11 Original URL: https://visionpros.fm/2024/07/11/episode-19-justin-searls-from-breaking-change/ Comments? Questions? Suggestion of a podcast I should guest on? [email protected]

Jerod, Adam, and myself chat about the ill-fated WWDC in which a more intelligent Siri would be forthcoming. Appearing on: The Changelog Recorded on: 2024-06-14 Original URL: https://changelog.com/friends/48 Comments? Questions? Suggestion of a podcast I should guest on? [email protected]

Jerod had me on The Changelog to talk about dependency management, and other nightmares. Appearing on: The Changelog Published on: 2023-11-17 Original URL: https://changelog.com/friends/22 Comments? Questions? Suggestion of a podcast I should guest on? [email protected]