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You Don’t Own Any of Your Assets… Except For One | Chris Sullivan

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Chris Sullivan, hedge fund manager and co-founder of Hyperion Decimus, joins Mark Moss to expose how the modern financial system quietly stripped away real ownership—and why Bitcoin may be the only asset that gives it back. With decades of experience in traditional markets, Chris breaks down how “custody chains” and legal dematerialization turned investors into creditors, setting the stage for a system where we own nothing directly. In this episode, we uncover how tokenization, regulation, and institutional capture reinforce that illusion of ownership, why the debt-based system is reaching its breaking point, and how Bitcoin stands apart as a bearer asset that restores control, transparency, and sovereignty. Chris explains why he believes Bitcoin is “the embodiment of the Bill of Rights in technological form,” and what this shift means for wealth, freedom, and the future of money.

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